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Tales of Xillia |OT| "Progress" It's Been 15 Years. . .

kiryogi

Banned
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1st Promotional Trailer
2nd System Trailer
2nd Scenario Trailer
3rd Promotional Trailer
4th Scenario Trailer
4th System Trailer
Gematsu Screenshot Gallery

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What is Xillia? The name Xillia arranged in English expresses the word “Xillion” which in turn means “Countless”. In this case, “Xillion” is a play on words of “Zillon”. The letter X signifies the meaning of the unknown, or “crossing”. One’s life can accumulate with countless things, good or bad. – Hideo Baba, Producer
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The world of Liese Maxia is separated by two distinct parts. The Northern area known as ”A Joule”, is a federation of small countries and tribes. It contains mountainous regions and dry wasteland. Despite being a rising nation, they have accomplished remarkable development. There are families of tribes who use monsters for daily life and militaristic affairs.

The southern area is a much larger country known as “La Sugal”. This region is blessed with warm climates and fertile ground. La Sugal is a country that is highly focused on spirit artes, research, and education. They even respect old customs and traditions. La Sugal’s king has been steadily advancing towards foreign invasion, causing a strain on the two countries.

Here in La Sugal’s capital city, Il Fan, Jude Mathis and Milla Maxwell will eventually meet. . .
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One Tale, Two Characters
New to the Tales series is the ability to choose the hero. Pick between Jude and Milla. Both have their own prospective on the plot and different opening movies.

Quick Save and Travel
A real exciting new feature for Tales. Finally you can save anywhere at any time with Quick Save. Quick Travel lets you travel to any area you’ve been to instantly via the world map with R3.

New Skit System
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Long Chat: The old fashion skit featured in past Tales titles

Fighting Chat: For conversations mid battle. Cut-ins will show up when support actions are executed.

Short Chat: This occurs when you’re moving about and happens in a real time on the field.

Lilial Orb System
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This is the new stat building system. It’s built around orbs (nodes) that will augment your characters abilities. Spend points to purchase nodes that’ll allow you to gain new abilities/skills/stats. There are special nodes you can only access once you’ve activated certain ones.

Shop Build
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Shops will level up as you progress through the game. Increased levels means new items and cheaper prices on older items.
There are 2 methods to raising a shop’s level. The first is to simply buy items.
The second method is to provide materials to the shop, which make them gain experience and eventually level up.
And there are 5 types of shops (Weapon, Armor, Accessory, Item, Food), you can level them all individually. But the bright side is that each type’s growth is shared throughout the world. So if you level up a shop type, the experience will be reflected in shops of that type all around the world.

DR-LMBS (Double Raid Linear Motion Battle System)

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Xillia’s new battle system still retains the linear motion system fundamentals, but with a new emphasis on cooperative attacks

Assault Counter (AC): AC is a new system that borrows from Team Destiny’s CC system (Chain Capacity). AC is consumed whenever you perform any normal or artes attack. (This does not apply to defensive actions) You can continue to chain up as many combos of attacks and artes for as long as your AC will last.

Technical Points (TP): The well renowned system that’s been there since the beginning of Tales. TP is used for Artes attacks.

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Link Mode: Link up with another character for a group battle. When paired up, the character you control is called “Master” and the other character is “Partner”. The Partner character will support you, attacking the enemy you attack, attacking enemies who come at you from behind, and covering you from attacks. Also, when linked up, you gain access to Partner Support moves. Finally, when you fill up the OverLimit gauge, Master and Partner will team up for special attacks.

Character Change: New to Xillia is the ability to slowdown battle with R3, enabling a much easier time with real time character swap mid battle. But not only that, you can also now swap out for reserve characters that aren’t currently in the battle.

Download Content

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Xillia will be featuring all sorts of downloadable content available on PlayStation Network for a price, such as costumes and accessories.

These are the ones currently planned/released:

Cless/Stahn - First Print Bonus
Utahime - Included with Limited Edition of Ayumi Hamasaki's "Five" Single
Star Driver - 9/8, Six costumes @ 500y a piece
Maid/Butler - TBA
Swimsuits - 9/15, Six costumes @ 300y a piece
Maid/Butler - 9/22, Six costumes @ 300y a piece
School Outfits - 9/29, Six costumes @ 300y a piece
Idolmaster - 9/15, Three costumes @ 300y a piece
Tales heroes - 10/6, Three costumes @ 300y a piece

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Shouta said:
Having finished the game, it actually surprised me quite a bit. I was expecting more general stupid Tales team failings in various areas but there really wasn’t. It’s a really good game on pretty much all fronts to me. I'm going to try to avoid spoilers for most folks until a later post if someone wants to really know.

+ Best TS style battle system yet.
+ Link System is nice and adds a little more to consider to battles
+ Link Artes are sweet.
+ Pace of battles is quick
+ Movement systems are far better than most TS games.
+ Character roles and Artes balance is good
+ Each character feels unique to play even compared to similar characters in other Tales.
- Still lacks a bit of pizzazz like TD battle systems.
- Link traits and skills could've been a bit fancier or more indepth
- More Artes would've been fine and most noticeable changes for the X number of uses would've been nice
- More Link Artes for everyone but Jude and Milla
- A few more AI options and specific options in the Link system would've helped.

This battle system is definitely the best of the Team Symphonia style systems. It's better than Abyss or Vesperia by a long shot. It's incredibly fast-paced and it's a lot of fun to play. The link system is great and is actually a usable main system unlike say Fatal Strikes and Field of Fonons. It adds a bit of consideration to which of the characters to link up with and when. Link Artes are also all different so knowing properties and what they do is helpful for some of the things you may want to do. They also added proper movement systems other than Free Run so you can use those to get around the field most of the time but Free Run still has nice uses in the game if you need it.

That said, it still lacks a bit of the open-ended combo system of recent TD games. This is both on Artes and systems front. If they could add something on either front, I think TS battle systems would improve quite a bit. ToDR would be an example of basing it around Artes design whereas Graces A combos would be an example of a system. I also think the Link system could've used a few more things to it to make it meatier.

On that note, there could've been more Artes. It felt like there was too few for how long the game was. While they all serve a purpose, it would've been nice to see some bigger and cooler attacks. Link Artes are also a bit lacking for everyone but Jude and Milla. They have the most and everyone has a few with each other. It felt a little lopsided. On top of that, the changes to some artes are very big for using them often. It's sometimes just adding a specific property like guard breaks or so and that makes it hard to notice at times.

A few more specific options would've been nice for the AI in this, particularly being able to tell them to keep their distance against certain enemies. The enemy AI targets your backline at times, steamrolling them. So being able to tell your AI members to run away or fight from a distance would have been much nicer.

Between Graces and this, Graces has a more open-ended combo system thanks to the special nature of A and getting B moves to a certain number of uses. So this has less free combo potential. On the other hand, Graces field feels cramped compared to Xillia, so it always felt like enemies were breathing down my caster's neck on Hard. The movement systems are rather comparable though Graces has a slight edge because sidestep isn't tied to an attack and it moves more. Where Graces kind of falters is that I often feel like it's a relatively slow combat system. Xillia is break-neck speeds even until the last battle which doesn't drag me down at all. They both have pluses and minuses.

+ Great story.
+ Careful attention paid to pacing and plot composition.
+ Great writing on the whole.
+ Presentation is great.
- Beginning can feel a little slow.
- Setting isn't quite as inventive as other Tales.
- A few spots could have had more story to really cement some stuff.

This is definitely the game's biggest strength and it really does it well. The story is, as I've said, definitely the best story we've gotten in a Tales game to date. The plotting, the presentation, the pacing, the composition of the story and pretty much everything is hit perfectly. You can really tell that they put a lot of effort into making a story that made sense, was always focused, and, kept in tune with the theme of the game. What this means is that every event in the game has a purpose and time is given to for each to play out properly giving it weight. I don't think there are events in the game that occur then just hand-waved or went through quickly and off to the next one.

Of this all, the thing that stood out the most was the fact that the writing never got lost at all. It was always on point. The theme of the game is very much a part of the central conflict in the story and all the interactions really reinforcement it, even to the end. I think very few games ever do this right.

I do have a few minuses in this area. The beginning is a little slow because you really don't know anything and there isn't nearly as much going on. However, it's not really dead weight either since it does a bit of character building and setting a few blocks here and there for the story. The setting is not nearly as inventive as other Tales games like say Abyss. It does have a few things but it's very straight-forward world for the most part.. That's not necessarily bad but it does feel just a tad vanilla because there aren't many esoteric mythology pieces or crazy cultural practices. The last minus is that there are a few points in the story where I think they could've add a bit more to really hit the point away or to get even more bang. It's not really a minus as much as it's "I'd like to see more about this world" kind of thing.

The minuses are really minor overall and don't detract from the positives of the story.

+ Characters are written really well.
+ They have proper relationships and connections with each other.
+ Every character is important to the story for the most part.
+ Everyone is freaking cool on all fronts even the villains.
+ Alvin is incredible, absolutely incredible.
- Unfortunately, Leia is the sole exception.
- There is one other character that also suffers as well but is a bit of a spoiler.
- More time spent on the villains would've been nice.

While I like certain individual characters and Tales casts more on a general level, I can't deny that this is a pretty damn great cast overall. Every character plays a role in the story, each gets their own time to develop, and there's a bit more to all the character's relationships than most Tales. On top of that, everyone has a really good design. I do have a few quibbles like Rowen looking like one of the Royal Guards from Suikoden 5 and Elise having goth loli fashion. The villains are great too, very awesome looking bunch.

I'll just reiterate it here but Alvin is incredible. He's an amazing character, period.

So on the downside, Leia just didn't get enough time from what I saw and her position in the story isn't very useful. The writers actually lampshaded this a bit but still, she's the weakest character by far in the cast. Her connection with the cast is fine and her position in being a foil is good as well but her development itself is rather half-baked and isn't even really related to the story itself like the rest of the cast. I won't talk about the other character in this post because of how spoiler-y it is but if anyone wants to know I can talk about it.

Last point is well, I really like the villains in this and it's because of how the story is written. I would've loved to have seen them more on screen and the like. It's not that they're bad, it's just I want more with them.

That's all I've got for now, I think. If anyone has questions, I can answer them. It'd be easier than writing another one of these things.

For more Tales of Xillia and Tales of discussion, stop by the Tales IRC channel! http://www.taleschannel.org
And finally, USE SPOILER TAGS.
 

Torraz

Member
Great thread! I'm really looking forward to it. Ordered at yesasia and hope to have it by the 20th of September...

One question about the preorder/first print code. Is that a slip of paper inside all of the game cases or is this retailer specific?

Thanks
 

Aeana

Member
Have the game ordered.
Not optimistic about the combat compared to Graces, but we'll see how it goes.
 

Torraz

Member
Aeana said:
Have the game ordered.
Not optimistic about the combat compared to Graces, but we'll see how it goes.

Yes that's my biggest worry. So far I've only played Vesperia and Graces and I hated how Vesperia punishes the player for the use of Artes with the TP system. On the other hand Graces CC system was pure bliss.
 
i want this game solely on how pretty the menu is. would import like FF13 but that game didn't involve much reading and understanding.
 

FSLink

Banned
Aeana said:
Have the game ordered.
Not optimistic about the combat compared to Graces, but we'll see how it goes.
Same, though I honestly thought Graces looked pretty unimpressive in early trailers mostly because they don't seem to like to show how crazy the battle system can get later in the games.
 

Aeana

Member
FSLink said:
Same, though I honestly thought Graces looked pretty unimpressive in early trailers mostly because they don't seem to like to show how crazy the battle system can get later in the games.
All it takes to get my interest is no TP. Anything on top of that is a bonus.
 
My second GOTY for this year for sure.

I just received today the limited edition of Hamasaki Ayumi's mini album, Five, along with the code for Milla's Utahime costume, and a poster.
On the 7th my limited edition OST will be shipped and the day after, my game!

So hyped.
 
Oh wow, had no idea there would be an OT for this, let alone one so good! Nice work :)

Anyway, had my preorder in for a while and eagerly awaiting it shipping next week. Have high expectations too. Vesperia became my favourite Tales game when it came out and Graces equaled it when it was released. If Xillia comes anywhere near as close I'll be over the moon. And then there's Abyss 3D later in the year <3
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Lol, this is a surprise. I actually wasn't expecting anyone to make an OT for this game. Nice job!!
 

Aeana

Member
kayos90 said:
Lol, this is a surprise. I actually wasn't expecting anyone to make an OT for this game. Nice job!!
Either kiryogi or Rpgmonkey always make official threads for the "mothership" Tales games. Not really a surprise!
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Aeana said:
Either kiryogi or Rpgmonkey always make official threads for the "mothership" Tales games. Not really a surprise!
Oh, I didn't know that. I never saw them posting on the other Xillia thread that they were going to make it. Either that or I must've missed it. Regardless, super psyched for this!
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
Game looks really nice, some of the DLC items are hilarious. I'm hoping GracesF does well enough for this to get a US release.
 

Pein

Banned
Fuck it, I'm importing it now. I'll wait a few months for a guide then play it, vesperia was so good that I'm down for any tales games. Takuto costume in this is a huge bonus for me.
 

Jucksalbe

Banned
X Edition preordered. :)

I haven't played Graces, so at least I probably won't be disappointed by the combat system. Really looking forward to it. And: Nice OP!
 

Netto-kun

Member
DLC costume pricing revealed. I might pick up one or two Star Driver costumes. Pass on the rest though.

Namco Bandai previously announced collaborative costumes with Star Driver and Idolmaster 2, along with school outfits and swimwear. These will be released and priced as follows:
Star Driver
Released on 9/8 (simultaneous with the game). Six costumes, priced ¥500 each.

Idolmaster 2
Released 9/15. Three costumes, priced ¥300 each.

Swimsuits
Released 9/15. Six costumes, priced ¥300 each.

School Outfits
Released 9/29. Six costumes, priced ¥300 each.

That's a total of ¥7,500 if you want to get all the outfits.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/08/31/tales_of_xillia_costumes/
 

salromano

Member
Seronei said:
Anyone know if there will be a demo on Japanese PSN?

They haven't said anything about it yet. Many assume there will be a demo, though, considering there were demos for Vesperia and Graces f.
 

kiryogi

Banned
Seronei said:
Anyone know if there will be a demo on Japanese PSN?
At this point I want to say no, or it'd be something after release. Previously with Graces F/Vesperia, they did have a demo before release. But now it's only a week away. . . They were demoing it @ events in Japan and that seems to be the extent of it.

7Th said:
ufotable is the cancer killing videogame OPs.

What Bebpo said.
 

kiryogi

Banned
kayos90 said:
Oh, I didn't know that. I never saw them posting on the other Xillia thread that they were going to make it. Either that or I must've missed it. Regardless, super psyched for this!
You should look up former Tales topics on GAF :D
 
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