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[Xilium]

Pretty sure a school, especially a highschool, doesn't need the added drama of their staff fucking their students. It's also unethical in college too.

Let's say the teacher isn't extorting them then, what's to stop them from just favoring the girl who's blowing them and inflating her grade?

Fucks up all sense of fairness.

That happens anyway, even without the sexual favors. Teachers favoring some students over others (for any number of non-academic reasons) seems to me to be a very common thing.

Why don't these people ever use common sense? Relationships with minors always end badly.

Except in all the cases we don't hear about. I'm positive there are far more success stories (as in not ending with a prison sentence) than there are not.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

I feel bad for the dude. He fucked up big time, but not enough to warrant having his life ruined.

Nice

Is that a lesser neckbeard?

 

[JayDubya]

Where were the parents?

Good question. North Carolina has parental consent laws; clearly they were not adequate here.


Hope the man rots in prison for as long as possible.

 

[JGS]

28? EDIT: 24/25 at the time?

No one under 42 should be a high school teacher.

Spoiler

Sorta kidding

 

[NullPointer]

It's not at all stupid. What's to stop a teacher from using their position of authority to seduce teens into better grades for sexual favors?

Fire them if that's the issue. Otherwise age of consent is a friggin' age of consent.

 

[Doncamatic]

28? EDIT: 24/25 at the time?

No one under 42 should be a high school teacher.

Spoiler

Sorta kidding

I had a hot, young, english teacher in High School and it was awesome. Milfs are so much rarer than hot 20-somethings.

 

[The Technomancer]

Fire them if that's the issue. Otherwise age of consent is a friggin' age of consent.

Its not that clear cut. What if the teacher isn't explicitly coercing them like that, but the student thinks that's what will happen?

 

[Jarmel]

Jesus 64 counts each carrying over a year? Nobody thinks that is a tad overkill? If he was convincted on all the counts, he would die in jail. This is so ridiculous, the woman was 17. She knew what she was getting into. The guy should be fired but getting even 5 years of jail time for this is ridiculous.

I laughed at the flute picture though.

 

[NullPointer]

Its not that clear cut. What if the teacher isn't explicitly coercing them like that, but the student thinks that's what will happen?

Depends if she's right doesn't it? Sounds like a possible case of sexual harassment if so.

But c'mon now - what does age of consent really mean? Isn't it an arbitrary point in a person's development when they're expected to manage their own sexual decisions? Either let them be, or change the age to some other arbitrary number.

Jesus 64 counts each carrying over a year? Nobody thinks that is a tad overkill? If he was convincted on all the counts, he would die in jail. This is so ridiculous, the woman was 17. She knew what she was getting into. The guy should be fired but getting even 5 years of jail time for this is ridiculous.

Yep. Any jail time at all seems ridiculous.

 

[hermit7]

How exactly is the total.number if counts decided in a case such as this?

Just a personal curiosity I suppose but it seems interesting in regards to how the prosecution works.

 

[Replicant]

This falls under the alarming red area:

 

[GillianSeed79]

Jesus 64 counts each carrying over a year? Nobody thinks that is a tad overkill? If he was convincted on all the counts, he would die in jail. This is so ridiculous, the woman was 17. She knew what she was getting into. The guy should be fired but getting even 5 years of jail time for this is ridiculous.

I laughed at the flute picture though.

90 percent of criminal cases are resolved via a plea bargain. The 64 counts represents the number of alleged sexual encounters. What will likely happen is the DA will look at the case, pick out the most easily provable counts and offer the guy a deal. Something like if you plead guilty/no contest to 10 counts we'll agree to a binding concurrent sentence. Right there you are looking at a max of 15 months, which he'll get credit for time already served while he's being held on bail. If he has no criminal record, he'll likely get probation, or, at worst home confinement. In any extent, the worst thing that will happen is his teaching license will be terminated. Also, just because he's being held on $500,000 bail doesn't mean he has to post all of that. Unless it's cash-only you only have to put up like four percent or property. Long story short, guy's teaching career is over, but will likely not spend much or anytime in jail if convicted.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

She was 17? Fire him and be done with it, like every civilized country would.

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[Chuck Norris]

Why is this a crime if she is of legal age? I don't condone it, but it seems more like professional misconduct - along the lines of a boss having sex with his employee. Grounds for dismissal and expulsion but imprisonment? Really?

 

[GodofWine]

I guess there is more evidence than an 'essay'? Yea, he probably did it, but if all he has against him is a college essay, I'd be like "Nope, didn't touch her, not once..prove I did".

(fake edit - probably something on the abortion papers? maybe? no clue)

 

[Kaizer]

Jesus 64 counts each carrying over a year? Nobody thinks that is a tad overkill? If he was convincted on all the counts, he would die in jail. This is so ridiculous, the woman was 17. She knew what she was getting into. The guy should be fired but getting even 5 years of jail time for this is ridiculous.

I laughed at the flute picture though.

Yeah I agree, the amount of time he's getting seems WAAYYY blown out of proportion.

 

[Stitch]

Is that a lesser neckbeard?

nah man that's a goatee

 

[Jangocube]

Damn, that girl is a bitch.

One thing to out the guy to the police, another thing to completely destroy his life by writing an essay about it for everyone to read.

And yeah, 17 year old shouldn't be rape. Fucking ass backwards laws in this country.

 

[GillianSeed79]

Why is this a crime if she is of legal age? I don't condone it, but it seems more like professional misconduct - along the lines of a boss having sex with his employee. Grounds for dismissal and expulsion but imprisonment? Really?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Laws are passed by legislators not lawyers. They pass these things a lot of times to score political points without looking at stuff like age of consent. The intention was likely to severly punish the crazy stuff like a teacher banging a 5th grader and not a 17-year-old.

 

[Jarmel]

90 percent of criminal cases are resolved via a plea bargain. The 64 counts represents the number of alleged sexual encounters. What will likely happen is the DA will look at the case, pick out the most easily provable counts and offer the guy a deal. Something like if you plead guilty/no contest to 10 counts we'll agree to a binding concurrent sentence. Right there you are looking at a max of 15 months, which he'll get credit for time already served while he's being held on bail. If he has no criminal record, he'll likely get probation, or, at worst home confinement. In any extent, the worst thing that will happen is his teaching license will be terminated. Also, just because he's being held on $500,000 bail doesn't mean he has to post all of that. Unless it's cash-only you only have to put up like four percent or property. Long story short, guy's teaching career is over, but will likely not spend much or anytime in jail if convicted.

Thanks for the analysis. That seems alot more sane but that is one serious shock value. I would be freaking out if I was charged with that many counts. I mean you see homicides go for less than that.

 

[Xilium]

90 percent of criminal cases are resolved via a plea bargain. The 64 counts represents the number of alleged sexual encounters. What will likely happen is the DA will look at the case, pick out the most easily provable counts and offer the guy a deal. Something like if you plead guilty/no contest to 10 counts we'll agree to a binding concurrent sentence. Right there you are looking at a max of 15 months, which he'll get credit for time already served while he's being held on bail. If he has no criminal record, he'll likely get probation, or, at worst home confinement. In any extent, the worst thing that will happen is his teaching license will be terminated. Also, just because he's being held on $500,000 bail doesn't mean he has to post all of that. Unless it's cash-only you only have to put up like four percent or property. Long story short, guy's teaching career is over, but will likely not spend much or anytime in jail if convicted.

I think the worst thing will be the fact that he will have a felony on his record. A felony, especially a sexually related one, is a bitch to overcome when it comes to finding a decent full-time job.

On that note, don't most states have mandatory prison sentences for any sexually related crimes now, regardless of the number of prior offenses? I highly doubt they would lower it to probation only or drop his felony charge to a misdemeanor.

 

[GillianSeed79]

I think the worst thing will be the fact that he will have a felony on his record. A felony, especially a sexually related one, is a bitch to overcome when it comes to finding a decent full-time job.

On that note, don't most states have mandatory prison sentences for any sexually related crimes now, regardless of the number of prior offenses? I highly doubt they would lower it to probation only or drop his felony charge to a misdemeanor.

I read the story wrong, I thought he was charged under the misdemeanor statute. That said, no, there's no mandatory jail time for sex offenses. You are right, though, he'll probably have to register as a sex offender the rest of his life. I think if he does get jail time it won't be 64 15-month sentences. To get him to plead out, the state is going to give him something. They probably can't legally prove all 64 counts either. Max if he's unlucky maybe 3-5 years. That's worst case scenario.

 

[QuiteWhittle]

And yeah, 17 year old shouldn't be rape. Fucking ass backwards laws in this country.

While I generally agree with your post, I do not think the current age of consent is backwards. We needed a rational cut-off and eighteen made the sense, as it correlates with the first year without hand holding(through school) for most. Without at least some firm and unyielding laws, the justice system gives sway to bias and society becomes barely manageable.
Though this is irrelevant as the case isn't being treated as rape. Just commenting generally.