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Team Fortress 2 |OT4| Official Halo Thread of Polearms and High Fashion

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CornBurrito

Member
dragonlife said:
The only terrible characters are Rush and Irina. Rush is a moron and Irina's about as interesting as lesbian porn. Everyone else is "okay," and Emma is the only great one. But you don't play TLR for the characters or story (though some of the recruitable units you can get are pretty cool).

TLR absolutely does have something going for it: the battle system. I completely disagree with you on that part. The music is another thing it does well.

What didn't you like about the battle system?
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The battle system is atrocious. How do you even like it?

My experience that made it clear how bad the battle system was this:

Boss's attack deals ~52% of my health. That is a 2hko. However, because I am not below a certain % of health the game does not allow me to heal whatsoever. Boss proceeds to kill me on his second swing.

Not being able to choose your moves due to some arbitrary bullshit is crap.
 
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dragonlife

Member
Obsessed said:
The battle system is atrocious. How do you even like it?

My experience that made it clear how bad the battle system was this:

Boss's attack deals ~52% of my health. That is a 2hko. However, because I am not below a certain % of health the game does not allow me to heal whatsoever. Boss proceeds to kill me on his second swing.

Not being able to choose your moves due to some arbitrary bullshit is crap.
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I like it because you actually need to employ tactics to win.

Your experience could easily be explained as the boss hitting a Union with too many units, which equals more damage because there are more things to hit with an AoE attack. And if it KOs that Union, other Unions can revive the one that got KO'd. That, or you simply couldn't heal because you don't have enough herbs, which can and does happen if you aren't careful. It's possible that you also have units that can't heal.

It also depends on how many units you have and how many Unions you make with those units. If you put all your best units in one Union without spreading them out efficiently, that can produce terrible results. You also need to experiment with Formations because small tweaks can yield better stats. If you're not winning with your current setup, something is wrong and you need to change it.

The health % thing you're talking about does happen on occasion (or, again, you could be out of herbs), but usually if you make the right command, units change their actions to heal an injured union. Map awareness helps a lot. Also, hit X on the 360 controller to check each individual unit's attacks based on the orders you'll give them. If they have "standby," those will change their actions to heal at times.

What boss were you facing?
 
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Cloudius12

Member
Obsessed said:
The battle system is atrocious. How do you even like it?

My experience that made it clear how bad the battle system was this:

Boss's attack deals ~52% of my health. That is a 2hko. However, because I am not below a certain % of health the game does not allow me to heal whatsoever. Boss proceeds to kill me on his second swing.

Not being able to choose your moves due to some arbitrary bullshit is crap.
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most time the heal option appears, you need the inventory items.
 
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Sianos

Member
Rundown of match:

> Takes two tries to connect
> Have to reconnect once
> Now it's even worse
> Hey Hl2.exe, NEATO
> Okay, let's freeze match so I can reconnect
> Oh, can't connect while it's frozen
> Twenty minutes later they realize
> Finally, their server kicks me for some reason

I'm counting Waste as my last match, I didn't even get to play this time.

I heard various other complaints about lag, so I'm blaming the server.

Hilariously my computer runs Skyrim and Just Cause 2 at high (which was the recommended setting and runs like silky smooth butter) better than TF2 at min. THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
 
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Cloudius12

Member
NSQuote said:
Rundown of match:

> Takes two tries to connect
> Have to reconnect once
> Now it's even worse
> Hey Hl2.exe, NEATO
> Okay, let's freeze match so I can reconnect
> Oh, can't connect while it's frozen
> Twenty minutes later they realize
> Finally, their server kicks me for some reason

I'm counting Waste as my last match, I didn't even get to play this time.

I heard various other complaints about lag, so I'm blaming the server.

Hilariously my computer runs Skyrim and Just Cause 2 at high (which was the recommended setting and runs like silky smooth butter) better than TF2 at min. THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
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SOURCE ENGINE!
 
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natethegreat409

Member
NSQuote said:
Rundown of match:

> Takes two tries to connect
> Have to reconnect once
> Now it's even worse
> Hey Hl2.exe, NEATO
> Okay, let's freeze match so I can reconnect
> Oh, can't connect while it's frozen
> Twenty minutes later they realize
> Finally, their server kicks me for some reason

I'm counting Waste as my last match, I didn't even get to play this time.

I heard various other complaints about lag, so I'm blaming the server.

Hilariously my computer runs Skyrim and Just Cause 2 at high (which was the recommended setting and runs like silky smooth butter) better than TF2 at min. THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
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You have the worst luck with TF2. I have occasional crashes, but man, you have it rough.
 
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Sianos

Member
TF2, unlike most games is "CPU Intensive". This is code for poorly optimized.

I hunted for a rig with an above average GPU and a decent CPU last time. GPU is starting to show age on modern games (a solid 30 rather than solid 60), but I never get stuttering. In TF2 my fps wildly ranges between 10 and 100 with stuttering low settings.

I'll try a few more fixes. If that doesn't work, I'll take a financial hit and build a new rig. For you guys.

This loss is largely my fault, we were 8v9. Once again, I apologize.
 
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Proven

Member
I didn't watch the videos. I didn't check thefro's post about the rollout, and no one else seemed to have mentioned it either. I didn't realize the respawn was so bad, in which case it would have been better to force a push with only one or two people down, instead of waiting until around three go down. I wasn't on my game, and should have won a few more DM fights. It was an embarrassing loss, and if there wasn't so much lack of preparation at the beginning we could have been the ones rolling them. I let myself get too distracted by other games this past week, primarily Guild Wars 2 and Tales of Graces f.

We're definitely going to practice more on Borneo. We should not lose a third time.
 
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CornBurrito

Member
dragonlife said:
I like it because you actually need to employ tactics to win.

Your experience could easily be explained as the boss hitting a Union with too many units, which equals more damage because there are more things to hit with an AoE attack. And if it KOs that Union, other Unions can revive the one that got KO'd. That, or you simply couldn't heal because you don't have enough herbs, which can and does happen if you aren't careful. It's possible that you also have units that can't heal.

What boss were you facing?
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I was not out of herbs. I did not have too many units in my Union.
 
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ExMachina

Unconfirmed Member
So, lately TF2 has been taking forever/crashing when disconnecting from a server or quitting the game. :S Yay for updates!

dragonlife said:
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Amazing <3
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B)
 
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thefro

Member
Proven said:
I didn't watch the videos. I didn't check thefro's post about the rollout, and no one else seemed to have mentioned it either. I didn't realize the respawn was so bad, in which case it would have been better to force a push with only one or two people down, instead of waiting until around three go down. I wasn't on my game, and should have won a few more DM fights. It was an embarrassing loss, and if there wasn't so much lack of preparation at the beginning we could have been the ones rolling them. I let myself get too distracted by other games this past week, primarily Guild Wars 2 and Tales of Graces f.

We're definitely going to practice more on Borneo. We should not lose a third time.
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No biggie, actually kinda glad we're not playing one of the best few Steel teams next week.

I'd definitely like to do a scrim or two on Borneo, even if we just set up a scrim between the half of the team that's playing and the half that's not (plus some random GAF folks). 5 point CP and then Payload are probably the two HL map-type we need a strategy for the most, since they're more complex in terms of when and where to push/defend.
 
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Blizzard

Banned
NSQuote said:
Rundown of match:

> Takes two tries to connect
> Have to reconnect once
> Now it's even worse
> Hey Hl2.exe, NEATO
> Okay, let's freeze match so I can reconnect
> Oh, can't connect while it's frozen
> Twenty minutes later they realize
> Finally, their server kicks me for some reason

I'm counting Waste as my last match, I didn't even get to play this time.

I heard various other complaints about lag, so I'm blaming the server.

Hilariously my computer runs Skyrim and Just Cause 2 at high (which was the recommended setting and runs like silky smooth butter) better than TF2 at min. THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
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If the twenty minutes is the case, then you neglect to mention that during that 20 minutes, you were in mumble, without a mic, listening to us ask the entire time what you were doing, without telling any of us (except maybe proven, who still didn't know what was going on) what was going on.

You realize you can type in the mumble chat as well, and it will do text to speech for people who have that option enabled? Or I could have even read it if you'd said anything. =/

And even when you weren't having those problems, you were lagging/jittering so I think your computer or internet connection was having major problems with it. You might want to look into net_graph 3 to check choke, and/or do some tests for packet loss.

Proven said:
I didn't watch the videos. I didn't check thefro's post about the rollout, and no one else seemed to have mentioned it either. I didn't realize the respawn was so bad, in which case it would have been better to force a push with only one or two people down, instead of waiting until around three go down. I wasn't on my game, and should have won a few more DM fights. It was an embarrassing loss, and if there wasn't so much lack of preparation at the beginning we could have been the ones rolling them. I let myself get too distracted by other games this past week, primarily Guild Wars 2 and Tales of Graces f.

We're definitely going to practice more on Borneo. We should not lose a third time.
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I read the post and looked at the rollout thing, and I think quote did too with the whip, but presumably everyone else did as well since their demoman and sniper and spy prevented us from getting out the doorways on the right side without losing several people, I think.
 
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Sianos

Member
In my defense I was typing on mobile to Proven so he could relay info the whole time and couldn't alt tab while the game was loading to Mumble.

Granted I don't remember who finally figured out they had to turn off pause for me to rejoin, I know it wasn't me. Didn't have that issue on Waste.

Last time I had the ridiculous packet loss I tweaked with my router and it seemed to help. Let's see if my changes magically reverted or something else went wrong.

I'm sorry I was so useless, GAF, I will remedy my problems and kick ass next season. <3
 
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thefro

Member
Blizzard said:
I read the post and looked at the rollout thing, and I think quote did too with the whip, but presumably everyone else did as well since their demoman and sniper and spy prevented us from getting out the doorways on the right side without losing several people, I think.
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If their Sniper & Spy were already out to middle then that means we didn't do a great job executing the rollout. That actually is something that needs to be practiced.

There's a separate sticky-jump rollout for Demoman, so if we weren't doing that, we'd be at a disadvantage on mid.
 
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killthekampers

Neo Member
It was nice to play with you guys a little bit last night! Between basic, tech school, and starting to work out in the operational air force, it hasn't give me much time to play games at all in the past 10 months but plan on seeing me around more!
 
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Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
killthekampers said:
It was nice to play with you guys a little bit last night! Between basic, tech school, and starting to work out in the operational air force, it hasn't give me much time to play games at all in the past 10 months but plan on seeing me around more!
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I admire your perseverance, while on RED you made it all the way to the last RED spawn on Cashworks before the cart had even reached the first point. I mean that's at least a 2 minute journey without seeing anyone else, but you said GOD DAMN IT I MADE MY CHOICE AND I'M STICKING WITH IT.
 
Head of Vengarl

Head of Vengarl

Banned
Hey Borg, was that you using that new rocket launcher last night? The one that fires 3 rockets. That shit was cool.

Clydefrog said:
haha, did you idiots lose again?

OkfCQ.jpg
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I only recently discovered that your name is from South Park. I was watching the episode where he gets murdered with my gf, and I was like, "Oh, it's Clyde frog!" True story.
 
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Clydefrog

Member
Luap said:
Hey Borg, was that you using that new rocket launcher last night? The one that fires 3 rockets. That shit was cool.



I only recently discovered that your name is from South Park. I was watching the episode where he gets murdered with my gf, and I was like, "Oh, it's Clyde frog!" True story.
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lol BBP, why u so slow? also, why'd you erase the "Big Booty Paul" text from your avatar?
 
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Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
Luap said:
Hey Borg, was that you using that new rocket launcher last night? The one that fires 3 rockets. That shit was cool.
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I use it yeah but I didn't do anything cool with it last night. I actually embarrassed myself quite a few times, once I think when I was going after you on the last point of Cashworks. Oh wait, I get it. You're mocking me. :(
 
Head of Vengarl

Head of Vengarl

Banned
Clydefrog said:
lol BBP, why u so slow? also, why'd you erase the "Big Booty Paul" text from your avatar?
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I am woefully behind on my South Park. I just watched the Shake Weight episode. So fucking funny.

I just figured it was redundant because everyone who plays on the GAF server knows who I am here, and everyone who doesn't was probably wondering why it said "Big Booty Paul" on my avatar.

Professor Beef said:
He obviously has a small booty.
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I will not let these false allegations stand.

Borgnine said:
I use it yeah but I didn't do anything cool with it last night. I actually embarrassed myself quite a few times, once I think when I was going after you on the last point of Cashworks. Oh wait, I get it. You're mocking me. :(
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I would never! I thought we were on the same team most of the time anyway. That's the first time I've seen that launcher in use.
 
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thefro

Member
KSRF/TF2 Gaf who want to play, how's Thursday night sound for playing a couple rounds (each side attacks & defends 2x each) on pl_borneo?

I figure HL on, no stopwatch just so we can learn the map.... maybe take the second time around seriously like a real intrasquad scrimmage. Would like to have everyone who's playing Monday at least try to make it.

Then we can do a scrimmage against another team before Monday at some point.
 
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sixghost

Member
thefro said:
KSRF/TF2 Gaf who want to play, how's Thursday night sound for playing a couple rounds (each side attacks & defends 2x each) on pl_borneo?

I figure HL on, no stopwatch just so we can learn the map.... maybe take the second time around seriously like a real intrasquad scrimmage. Would like to have everyone who's playing Monday at least try to make it.

Then we can do a scrimmage against another team before Monday at some point.
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that'd be fun
 
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killthekampers

Neo Member
Borgnine said:
I admire your perseverance, while on RED you made it all the way to the last RED spawn on Cashworks before the cart had even reached the first point. I mean that's at least a 2 minute journey without seeing anyone else, but you said GOD DAMN IT I MADE MY CHOICE AND I'M STICKING WITH IT.
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Haha I was just trying to make sure no sneaky ass scouts got behind us but it happened anyways!

SteveWinwood said:
Can you help me be a jet pilot?
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Sorry I can't buddy. I don't know much about flying planes at all!
 
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SteveWinwood

Member
If we have a server *wink wink wink yeef* then sure. My attendance depends largely on time though. Both how far ahead I know what time it is, and also the later the better.

Who do I talk to do become a jet pilot killthekampers?
 
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Proven

Member
Alright, we can try Thursday. If Yeef can't give us the keys before or after the usual server fill up time, then we'll hijack a random empty server. We could make an extra event out of it, maybe involving the winners of tonight's Jank Highlander.

As for the Quote mishaps, he was keeping me posted well enough. I didn't convey the information back to the rest of you very well at all.
 
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killthekampers

Neo Member
SteveWinwood said:
If we have a server *wink wink wink yeef* then sure. My attendance depends largely on time though. Both how far ahead I know what time it is, and also the later the better.

Who do I talk to do become a jet pilot killthekampers?
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I really have no idea cause all I know is intel people, I've never really met any pilots before
 
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