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Tearaway |OT| Super Iota 64
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Fine Ham Abounds
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Bizarre and I can only assume knee-jerk statement from Gies. I have yet to personally play another game that lets you choose a male or female character and then on top of that gives you an option of what gender identity you prefer to be addressed as. It's as sensible and inoffensive as is conceivably possible short of just going the sackperson route again.
Edit: Actually, didn't Polygon do a big "making of" article for Tearaway? Where was this question when given the opportunity?
Edit: Actually, didn't Polygon do a big "making of" article for Tearaway? Where was this question when given the opportunity?
chrominance
Member
As someone who immediately chose Atoi despite being a guy, I will admit that I thought the same thing (oh, Atoi is Iota backwards, so male is the default?). If we're being technical here, it's a minor manifestation of that Ms. Male Character thing the Women and Tropes video detailed (Atoi is Iota plus some nice hair and eyelashes). But I thought it in more of a "huh, well guess nothing's 100% perfect" way rather than a "FUCK THIS SEXIST PIECE OF TRASH" way. I don't know if Gies thought the latter either, but I really didn't think it was that big of a deal.
(Someone else mentioned upthread that Atoi is Patois minus the first and last letter, but I have no idea if that's at all intentional.)
Seems weird to me to put it into tweet form if it wasn't a tweet...
Japanese Tearaway web commercial thingy? idk...
http://youtu.be/eK93bHUhSoc
part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyU_obzgB38
http://youtu.be/eK93bHUhSoc
part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyU_obzgB38
I really don't understand this. Atoi and Iota have nothing to do with "Ms. Male" tropes or male being the "default". The user is effectively asked whether they'd like a "male" or "female" messenger, and further asked which gender they associate with themselves.
They are paper messenger characters. Just because the "female" one has hair, eyelashes and pink bits doesn't make her an example of Ms. Male. Both Atoi and Iota were conceived at the same time, by the same people, for the same purpose. Both have exactly the same behavioural traits, abilities and motivations.
If you're talking about this purely from a marketing perspective (which messenger is used in promotional materials, etc.) then by and large, I've encountered a fairly even spread. Just because Iota is on the front cover and Atoi is not does not mean "male is the default".
Finally, if one was to approach this a different way and imagine there was never any Iota - that Tearaway was purely a game about a female messenger called Atoi - what possible benefit would that have? I won't argue against the idea that we need more well-represented female characters, and more well-written characters in games in general, but taking the flavour-of-the-month media analysis and applying it to what is probably one of the most all-embracing, and genuinely touching games of late is just petty and a waste of breath better spent elsewhere.
SHOCKING NEWS: Gies is an idiot. Don't know why you guys lose your head trying to discuss his stupid views.
Oh my god, so weird.
Oh my god, so weird.
Stupid sony KILL your advertising department!
donkey show
Member
I am not with Mm. ^^ And I would've finished the game much earlier, but I honestly spend too much time doing costumes in the game!
wapplew
Member
This is...nostalgia? Look like some video my teacher will play at elementary school.
atoi is iota backwards...
iota is atoi backwards...
Just because some derp feels the need to view the glass as half empty doesn't mean it's not also half full.
I want it to do well so badly. Dx It's so good.
iota is atoi backwards...
Just because some derp feels the need to view the glass as half empty doesn't mean it's not also half full.
While your wallet doesn't thank you, I do! Anyone that's bought Tearaway makes me happy.
I want it to do well so badly. Dx It's so good.
I found that one to be the hardest too! Wendigo one was the easiest. The Tear was easier than I thought it would be.Add me to the Tearaway Platinum Club. It also doubles as my first platinum trophy ever!Of the three "don't lose your stamp" trophies, I found Between the Pages to be the hardest of the three. How about anyone else?
Oh right, were you there for LBP then? Or am I missing some clever in-joke related to your tag?
Congrats on finishing all the same!
Agreed. I was worried about The Tear, but took it slow and managed it on the first attempt. Between the Pages was a toughie.
Currently going back and calmly collecting stuff I missed, but I will Platinum this for sure. Sometimes I feel bad treating it like just a handful of "things to do", but one day I know I'll go back to it from start to finish, savouring it like it was my first time through. It's one of those games that will smack the nostalgia glands hard after a few years of hiatus...
Cha
Member
Since I can play this game for longer than most other Vita games, I did a little test yesterday. I got 5.5 hours with 100% brightness, 75% volume, wi-fi enabled, and microphone on. That's pretty darn impressive in my opinion.
The platforming right now is GLORIOUS! Though, it feels like I''ve just taken my first steps toward completing the journey (bookmark spoiler >
). I'm so sad. I don't want the game to end
The platforming right now is GLORIOUS!
Though, it feels like I''ve just taken my first steps toward completing the journey (bookmark spoiler >
Between the pages
Just a friendly advice to everyone.
Tearaway has a simple platinum, and since the game is awesome many would like to get the platinum, my advice to not ruin the experience is either:
1)trying to get EVERYTHING at the first run(there are a pair of levels that needs to be replayed though)
or
2)just enjoy the experience leaving lots of collectables to make the second playtrough fun.
Why this advice? Well because i assure you that i loved the game, but things like searching many times for just ONE confetti(Confetto? Coriander?) in a long and dark level like
is not fun at all
PS:
I have learned that both the Italian "coriandoli"(colored pieces of paper) and "confetti"(candies with almonds and chocolate in a shell of sugar) are translated in English with "confetti" lol.
Tearaway has a simple platinum, and since the game is awesome many would like to get the platinum, my advice to not ruin the experience is either:
1)trying to get EVERYTHING at the first run(there are a pair of levels that needs to be replayed though)
or
2)just enjoy the experience leaving lots of collectables to make the second playtrough fun.
Why this advice? Well because i assure you that i loved the game, but things like searching many times for just ONE confetti(Confetto? Coriander?) in a long and dark level like
the cave
PS:
I have learned that both the Italian "coriandoli"(colored pieces of paper) and "confetti"(candies with almonds and chocolate in a shell of sugar) are translated in English with "confetti" lol.
donkey show
Member
Haha thanks. I actually worked on LBP Vita and LBP Cross-Controller, so thus the tag.
Now for the platinum :O
RpgN
Junior Member
Good advice. Sadly, I should have taken it before completing the game. It's funny that when going back to collect everything, I'm still playing through the levels just for fun, even after finding the missing stuff. Good game with no filler content, but I felt like there could have been more puzzles that require you to use all the skills you unlocked in the game. The game did attempt to do that, but they were few and too simple for my taste. SCEE was sensible to charge 20 pounds for this, since it's a fairly short game.
About that comment from Gies...that's really reaching...I mean, I could understand what's being meant here but Tearaway is one of the last games you want to complain about from that perspective. The game gave you a choice and it never felt like the male version was the default character in the game, along with the female version having a good design. And if you're not happy about her design, you're given the tools to make the character you want. We don't have many platformers that give you that kind of freedom. Gies should keep his comments to games that deserve it and less to games that are trying and doing many great things.
Oh and 98% is complete of the game. I think some of the trophies are glitched with me. Mainly the one where you have to take pictures in every chapter.
About that comment from Gies...that's really reaching...I mean, I could understand what's being meant here but Tearaway is one of the last games you want to complain about from that perspective. The game gave you a choice and it never felt like the male version was the default character in the game, along with the female version having a good design. And if you're not happy about her design, you're given the tools to make the character you want. We don't have many platformers that give you that kind of freedom. Gies should keep his comments to games that deserve it and less to games that are trying and doing many great things.
Oh and 98% is complete of the game. I think some of the trophies are glitched with me. Mainly the one where you have to take pictures in every chapter.
Platinum obtained!!!!
Loved every moment of this game especially the paper crafts and paper theme, there was only one thing that I can fault in this game and this issue is pretty trivial.
The in game help, where I might have not made a platforming jump, but the game will sitil spawn me past the section I just failed... Doesnt always happen, but I would like to try and complete that section myself.
Basically if you have a Vita, this is one of those games that need to be in your collection, it really is something different.
Loved every moment of this game especially the paper crafts and paper theme, there was only one thing that I can fault in this game and this issue is pretty trivial.
The in game help, where I might have not made a platforming jump, but the game will sitil spawn me past the section I just failed... Doesnt always happen, but I would like to try and complete that section myself.
Basically if you have a Vita, this is one of those games that need to be in your collection, it really is something different.
I made a Iota decoration for the xmas tree. Not sure if this link will work:
http://instagram.com/p/haFr1bsoIp
GF might do an Atoi one too!
http://instagram.com/p/haFr1bsoIp
GF might do an Atoi one too!
awesome :3
Cha
Member
Just completed the journey. DAT ENDING!!
Holycarp! Fricken beautiful! The last few words made my eyes a bit watery. Such a magical experience. Mm seriously created an astounding game.
Now time to go for 100% completion! Then play through with Atoi!
Tearaway is now my No.1 Vita game. Hope this isn't the last we'll see of this papery world.
Barkley's Justice
Member
I just re-wathed one of the announcement trailers, and there are a BUNCH of gameplay mechanics I did not come across in the game (tilting the screen vertically, using wind via the microphone, knocking enemies off with your voice).
Did I miss them or were they "scrapped" (see what I did thar?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK6_QvdxyXQ
Did I miss them or were they "scrapped" (see what I did thar?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK6_QvdxyXQ
You can still technically blow particles around by using the microphone, IIRC. Try it on the snowy mountain area!
I can see lots of things being pitched but then scrapped later as time went on. Maybe they had playtesting that scored certain elements (knocking enemies with voice sounds like a poor decision for a portable game where you might not want to raise your voice in a public place, for example) poorly compared to others.
I have finally found it! It was over 2 bouncing pads but it was not visible on camera. :\Just a friendly advice to everyone.
Tearaway has a simple platinum, and since the game is awesome many would like to get the platinum, my advice to not ruin the experience is either:
1)trying to get EVERYTHING at the first run(there are a pair of levels that needs to be replayed though)
or
2)just enjoy the experience leaving lots of collectables to make the second playtrough fun.
Why this advice? Well because i assure you that i loved the game, but things like searching many times for just ONE confetti(Confetto? Coriander?) in a long and dark level likeis not fun at allthe cave
PS:
I have learned that both the Italian "coriandoli"(colored pieces of paper) and "confetti"(candies with almonds and chocolate in a shell of sugar) are translated in English with "confetti" lol.
Basileus777
Member
I'm stuck and I need a bit of help, in The Traveler. Pardon the shitty picture. It's probably something incredibly obvious, but I'm missing what exactly to do here and I'm tired of shaking my Vita.
If you tilt to the right a bounce pad will appear to get up to the next level
Basileus777
Member
In all my tilting and shaking, somehow I missed triggering the lower bounce pad. Thanks.
Grinchy
Banned
I'm glad they took it out and I play mostly at home. I don't want to be screaming into my Vita.
I was listening to the latest Rebel FM where Anthony was talking about how much he likes this game and is explaining the setup. He mentions that you're an envelope that is given life and that you have to deliver a message to the sun... When Arthur jumps in with this:
Now, I have played the start of this game and there was no default character, you choose whether you're male or female. It seems to me that Arthur is reading too much into this and is insinuating a sexist agenda where there is none.
Gies, one of the least respected people in the gaming industry.
Atoi, or à toi, means "to you" in French. This clearly has a deeper meaning to the Tearaway world than Iota, hence Iota is actually Atoi spelt backwards and the female is actually the default, or whatever the hell that means.
I went with this, yeah. The female narrator's tinge of patois to her pronunciation of the word further reinforced this for me.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Great game. I finished it the other night. Had a lot of fun. Wasn't challenging in any way, but the whole paper world and everything in it was marvelous. Game length was decent and it didn't feel too short. It was full of charm and character and lots of cool moments that kept me entertained. For it's knock down price, it was fully worth the price and one of the best games this year. Certainly my fave Vita game.
It's a shame it won't have sold very well thanks to Vita sales and little marketing for the game. It deserves to have a bigger userbase to be sold to although it would be missing some of it's key gameplay features. However I'm sure they could think of other gimmicks and change it up to make it work on PS4 for instance if they decided to continue the franchise.
It's a shame it won't have sold very well thanks to Vita sales and little marketing for the game. It deserves to have a bigger userbase to be sold to although it would be missing some of it's key gameplay features. However I'm sure they could think of other gimmicks and change it up to make it work on PS4 for instance if they decided to continue the franchise.
People keep saying this but the marketing was pretty solid in most of Europe, particularly in the UK.
Katana_Strikes
Member
I'll admit I didn't see a single ad anywhere. Not even online where it seems to all have been taken over my Xbox/PS4. In fact I wouldn't know the Vita exists if it wasn't for GAF. But it's nice if there was marketing for it. It just completely escaped me. Still I already bought and knew about it, so it would have been preaching to the converted anyways
Noppo! People my age in Peru grew up with a lot of educational Japanese TV programs, I'm very fond of them and it's very nostalgic to see Noppo promoting Tearaway, "Dekirukana" was one of such TV shows and it was a blast to watch, watching this video and Noppo as energetic as always despite his age has made my day
Psycho Echidna
Member
I had to do it ... ^^
donkey show
Member
Here ya go.
Mind you, granted I say unlimited paper, there is a hard limit as to how much you can actually put on a decoration but it's pretty generous.
The character design for Atoi is really neat; she's as equally cool as Iota, IMO. Start a new file just to check it out!
The character design for Atoi is really neat; she's as equally cool as Iota, IMO. Start a new file just to check it out!
I like how she has boots. It gives her a lot more character than Iota, I think.
When we announced the game in august 2012 we showed more of an idea of the game than the actual game content, a vertical slice if you will. We'd been jamming on lots of different ideas, but as the game came together over the following months lots of stuff was changed to be more fun or more polished, and lots of stuff was just left behind for good.
If you watch the Sogport trailer from January, you'll see something a lot closer to the game than the announce trailer was, but you'll still be able to see lots of differences, things we changed or removed.
Actually, I'm going to do a Reddit AMA with Rex Crowle, the lead creator of Tearaway, in about an hour (5pm gmt) so feel free to come ask him about stuff, he's far more interesting than i am
The character design for Atoi is really neat; she's as equally cool as Iota, IMO. Start a new file just to check it out!
Both of my daughters have a save open anyway, I assume they're playing as Atoi.