Ted Cruz: 'The Overwhelming Majority Of Violent Criminals Are Democrats'

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apparently, this is something he is actually selling on his site
 
You could probably also say that a majority of violent offenders identify as Christian as Pew research showed 71% of their sample of America identified as a Christian.

Does that mean anything, no.

Politicians going to be politicians.
 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

The authors, professors from the University of Pennsylvania and Stanford University, found that in some states, felons register Democratic by more than six-to-one. In New York, for example, 61.5 percent of convicts are Democrats, just 9 percent Republican. They also cited a study that found 73 percent of convicts who turn out for presidential elections would vote Democrat.

A study shows this to be statistically true--but you then have to look into why it's true. Which, y'know, isn't in his wheelhouse. But he's not factually incorrect.
 
Wait a second. Ted Cruz actually said that he'd never met an anti-abortion activist who was in favor of violence?

That's an outright lie

I can't believe he said it either after he was so proud of getting Troy Newman's endorsement. He's just flat out lying. Works for the rest of the field so why not I guess.

“the killing of the abortionist was necessary to save the lives of the pre-born babies that were scheduled to be killed by abortion that day.” - Troy Newman.
 
You all know what he really wanted to say.

As I was reading it I actually expected the last word to start with N not D.

Not even joking I immediately placed it there before my brain processed what word I was reading. Wheres that [citation needed] pic?

FakeEdit: I see its already here. Good. Good.
 
I really didn't think I could hate a Republican politician more than Rick Santorum or Scott Walker, but Cruz is pretty much there at this point.
 
I would imagine that most crime is by people who are economically challenged. Poorer communities tend to vote democrat. So while I could envision a scenario where what he's saying is factually true, what he's implying is as has been said, correlation vs causation.

This drives that point home:
Felon or not, they're still americans, and voting is a right. By the people, for the people.
 
I want to see actual research on this. Could be a nice revelation. Crime vs Political tendency. But let's not stop at violent crimes. Let's go the whole nine yards with scams and white collar crimes. And let's not stop with democrats and republicans, let's go with pro/against abortion, pro/against gun control, and other issues.
 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412



A study shows this to be statistically true--but you then have to look into why it's true. Which, y'know, isn't in his wheelhouse. But he's not factually incorrect.

That only addresses his points about felons voting. Doesn't say anything about most violent criminals being democrats (before they became convicted felons)

As Cruz notes, that is because Republicans don't support the right for felons to vote

also felon and violent criminal are not synonymous
 
Yes that bastion of journalistic integrity we know as the Washington Examiner.

The abstract is also above.

I actually wholeheartedly understand and believe the data. I also don't think it reveals anything we didn't already know.
 
I want to see actual research on this. Could be a nice revelation. Crime vs Political tendency. But let's not stop at violent crimes. Let's go the whole nine yards with scams and white collar crimes. And let's not stop with democrats and republicans, let's go with pro/against abortion, pro/against gun control, and other issues.
Does Treason count?
On a related note, is manufacturing a war for profit a chargeable offense?
 
It's because the rich republicans can buy they way out of being caught as a violent criminal.

But yeah. I'd love to see the data on this.
 
Cruz is just another run of the mill Oil-n-Gas corrupt Republican with his head way up the ass of the Oil-n-Gas industry.

easily interchangeable with any of the Bushes and a Rubio.

everyone wonder why they are so Climate-skeptic ... because they eat Oil-n-Gas money for breakfast

their policy is not their own but what the corrupt overloads tell them to

quick summery of 99% of Republican politicians = Oil-n-Gas puppets.

the other 1% are crazy old men who yell at clouds
 
Hmmm. I'm actually curious about the data on this.

"Overwhelming" is probably off, but by combining:
- Over-criminalization of Black people
- Over-criminalization of drugs
- Political tendencies of black people and small-time drug users

It's probably right. Still, what he's actually getting at is the generalization fallacy, eg. going from "Most violent criminals are democrat" to "Most democrats are violent criminals", which is a steady habit of the GOP.

By the same principles, tax evasion is probably a republican's crime.
 
During a discussion of the shooting with Cruz, conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt said, "I have never met — not once — a single pro-life activist who is in favor of violence of any sort."

Cruz responded that he hadn't either.
A) Generally no one would classify themselves as categorically "for" violence until such point as they inflict violence.

B) I'm 120% sure any conservative in politics has met thousands of people who would identify as pro-life, but strongly advocate for bombing the shit out of certain countries or supporting policies that would absolutely lead to higher mortality rates, shaking hands and nodding in agreement at both sentiments.

It's really troubling that conservatives largely see their platforms as wholly separate islands that have nothing whatsoever to do with one another. Popular Republican policies blatantly explode into fiery pieces when put to the simplest 'if-then' logic check against others; The central foundation of their policies counts upon the complete inability of their base to put two and two together and have an ounce of reflection upon whether the sum checks out.

Worst part that it works so goddamn well for them. Unbelievably frustrating.
 
It's because the rich republicans can buy they way out of being caught as a violent criminal.

But yeah. I'd love to see the data on this.
I was gonna post he same thing just worded differently.

This data only shows convicted criminals, i.e. People who were too poor to afford a defense that might've returned not guilty or not had to settle for a plea bargain. Also, all criminals are not in jail, and not everyone in jail is a criminal. While the number of innocent people in jail has beenestimated, we don't know that subset's affiliation, so I can't say how that would effect the data. That leaves us with crimes that have no arrests and crimes that are difficult to get convictions for. The most prominent type I can think of are sexual assaults and domestic violence, where the victim is unlikely to come forward. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most perpetrators of these crimes that have been convicted are white, so if the sample is an accurate representation of that demographic, then the number of whites incarcerated would be much higher. There's also the cases of affluenza where people with more money are able to settle out of court, or buy better lawyers to get reduced sentences or not guilty verdicts. You could also make a case weighing the number of perpetrators against number of victims (localized gang violence vs Bernie Madoff stealing millions of people's savings).

So while they're happy to shout that statistic from the rooftops, it's really just an indicator or how slanted the criminal justice system is in their favor from the get-go.
 
This shouldn't surprise people anymore to be honest. The far right has been spewing mindbogglingly ridiculous nonsense for many years now and that nonsense has been happily absorbed by large swaths of their voters, and they can't contain their own monster anymore (see Donald Trump and why he's doing so well with all the disgusting things he's said).

I could look up the polls if anyone wants me to, but there are plenty of Republicans on the far right (ranging from 5% to at least 50+% depending on the issue) who truly believe, among other things, that:


  • Obama is a Kenyan Muslim plotting to overthrow the country
  • Climate change is a hoax
  • Politicians are secretly lizard people
  • Jesus personally handed over the constitution to the founding fathers
  • Abortion clinics are a Democratic plot to control the population
  • The earth is 6000 years old and we are awaiting the 'Apocalypse'
  • Nato will invade and take everyone's guns (cause Obama)
  • Marijuana is equal to heroin and crack
  • Poor people are greedy, lazy bums who mooch off the government and caused the economic crash
  • Oil is awesome and we should 'Drill Baby Drill' forever!
  • Obama is or might be the Anti-Christ / Is Comparable to Hitler
I swear to you this party is so dead. There is no way in hell the Republicans will win a national election again. They failed miserably in 2008 and 2012, and everything that made them weak got worse, and crazier, never mind the changing demographics.

Not that that fact solves anything though. This current Republican party is so damaging to the country. Several generations of Republican voters have basically had, and continue to have, their intelligence destroyed with a barrage of bullshit, and the rest of the country is dragged down because of it.

I want off of Bullshit Maintain now please. Everything is starting to smell like shit.


PS: This has nothing to do with having conservative views, so if you do, as long are you are sure you aren't nuts like those people, this isn't directed at you.
 
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