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TEKKEN 7 |OT| How I killed your mother

Gin-Shiio

Member
Wasn't Aris the one who was a douche to the female players on that street fighter x tekken competition reality show a few years back because they weren't performing to his standards.

I don't know what happened, so I won't comment on that. For what it's worth though, he knew nothing but praise for Tanukana at this year's Combo Breaker, and showed appreciation for the strong female presence in the finals.
 

HeelPower

Member
Yep.

Canonically beat his non-devil form in Tekken 4 as well.

(Beat his ass in Blood Vengeance also, but nobody talks about that movie)


No surprise Kazuya has to cheat his ass off.
My guess is that heihachi is past his prime in T7FR.

He's definitely more powerful than Kazuya.
 
Individual character endings are now placed in the side stories of the story mode. That is unless the character in question is actually part of the main story.

So cutscenes only play on the story mode? Seems kinda silly, they should still have those small cutscenes at the end of arcade, but no biggie, game is stunning!
 

Pompadour

Member
This Mishima saga has been tainted. It was so mysterious and oozing with atmosphere back in the day but then they started getting lazy and trying to be fancy and cinematic and came up with turds. It had an essence of the old in that one Devil Kaz scene in the building ruins with that music playing but that's it. It just kept retreading the same shit. How many dojo attacks and Jack attacks and Heihachi death fakeouts as he comes to from rubble miles away from the dojo do there need to be?

That's fighting game stories in a nutshell. The less shown the better because it tricks the player into thinking there's hidden substance hidden underneath the mystery. Imagination fills in the details better than the game ever could.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Jin's is a beast for destroying both Kazuya and Heihachi, or Jinpachi or True Orge or Azazel one after another whether in the games proper or in the movie. Something about the combination of Mishima and Kazama DNA is special somehow

The fact that he plays against fighters like Hwoarang or Miguel specifically because he doesn't want to win against them kinda shows that he's probably a bit TOO strong in canon. Kazuya is going to have to do something radical or underhanded to win against him in T8, or Jun is going to have to show up and save him from death
 

hamchan

Member
Tekken story is WWE. The same people keep losing then coming back and winning but it's always the same small group of people, with storylines repeating endlessly, and no one else gets a push.
 
I, personally wouldn't have had a Mishima saga end without closure for Jin and Jun and the other half of the whole devil thing but then again, I'm not paid by Bamco.

...and that atrocious journalist V/O. That was an unnecessary way to tell this story.

Edit: Well I guess this just between Hei and Kaz and Jin will be around in the next game, maybe advanced timeline.

Edit 2: lol. Well ok then post credits scene.
 

SarusGray

Member
Just an FYI. Kazuya lost to heihachi in tekken 2 and couldn't utilize his full devil after meeting jun kazama who made him struggle from fully falling to the dark side (angel). During the moment of confusion. Heihachi used this to his advantage and killed kazuya when he was conflicted.
 

hamchan

Member
I, personally wouldn't have had a Mishima saga end without closure for Jin and Jun and the other half of the whole devil thing but then again, I'm not paid by Bamco.

...and that atrocious journalist V/O. That was an unnecessary way to tell this story.

Well Mishima saga isn't over despite all the marketing since Kazuya v Jin is happening next.

Or maybe they'll call it the "Kazama Saga" or something.
 

Hex

Banned
Hell I see Tekken as a ghost story, as a Kwaidan.
This group of people doomed to relive this experience over and over and over, never really able to break free.
Very tragic.
 
To use dragon ball for reference.

Kaz is cell form 1
Devil Kaz is cell form 2
Super devil Kaz is Super perfect cell

Jin will most likely have a super devil form as well in t8

I'm pretty sure the form he takes in this game isn't meant to be a "Super Devil Kazuya," but just a redesign.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I, personally wouldn't have had a Mishima saga end without closure for Jin and Jun and the other half of the whole devil thing but then again, I'm not paid by Bamco.

...and that atrocious journalist V/O. That was an unnecessary way to tell this story.

Edit: Well I guess this just between Hei and Kaz and Jin will be around in the next game, maybe advanced timeline.

Edit 2: lol. Well ok then post credits scene.

Mishima saga is Kazuya vs Heihachi, the battle that started for 1 and 2.

Now that Kazuya is the only Mishima left, its done. Now we're onto a new saga
 

cordy

Banned
Yall know you're spoiling stuff in the OT right? Be careful.

Jin's is a beast for destroying both Kazuya and Heihachi, or Jinpachi or True Orge or Azazel one after another whether in the games proper or in the movie. Something about the combination of Mishima and Kazama DNA is special somehow
The fact that he plays against fighters like Hwoarang or Miguel specifically because he doesn't want to win against them kinda shows that he's probably a bit TOO strong in canon. Kazuya is going to have to do something radical or underhanded to win against him in T8, or Jun is going to have to show up and save him from death

Yeah I agree.

My theory is that the reason Kazuya's Devil form doesn't look like Kazumi's is due to the fact that the special Mishima gene transformed his and has given him new strength. Kazuya's potential is probably higher than Heihachi's given this. With that said, the Kazama gene is powerful as well. The reason Jin's so strong is because he's got 3 different genes inside of his body: the Mishima, Hachijou and Kazama. He's the perfect storm hence why he's always whipping their asses pre-T7.
 

fernoca

Member
Mishima saga is Kazuya vs Heihachi, the battle that started for 1 and 2.

Now that Kazuya is the only Mishima left, its done. Now we're onto a new saga
New saga probably been Kazuya vs Jin. Father vs Son (again). Now with more aerial battles because both can transform and fly. :p

Tekken 7 didn't brought a closure to that and none of the new characters added anything new to expand things further.
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
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To use dragon ball for reference.

Kaz is cell form 1
Devil Kaz is cell form 2
Super devil Kaz is Super perfect cell

Jin will most likely have a super devil form as well in t8
that's an interesting analogy, however, I really don't think there's a difference between Devil Kazuya and the Kazuya we saw at T7's ending/Blood Vengeance, it's just a more detailed character model.
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier

So sfv is going to come back and kill t7?

that's an interesting analogy, however, I really don't think there's a difference between Devil Kazuya and the Kazuya we saw at T7's ending/Blood Vengeance, it's just a more detailed character model.
Hei at the end of it all isn't just Hei either. He's still just a dude, but he basically goes into a full maxed human potential mode. Basically Iron Fist Heihachi haha
 
Jin's is a beast for destroying both Kazuya and Heihachi, or Jinpachi or True Orge or Azazel one after another whether in the games proper or in the movie. Something about the combination of Mishima and Kazama DNA is special somehow

The fact that he plays against fighters like Hwoarang or Miguel specifically because he doesn't want to win against them kinda shows that he's probably a bit TOO strong in canon. Kazuya is going to have to do something radical or underhanded to win against him in T8, or Jun is going to have to show up and save him from death
we've talked about this before but Jin is basically the main character, whether he's taken a backseat in the latest installments or not
 

Gin-Shiio

Member
Getting spoilery in here guys. Please tag meatier discussion. Most folk are doing a good job, but I've already been spoiled some things on this page alone.
 

cordy

Banned
Only ranked matches I can get are against very experienced players. You know it's real when somebody's got a Bryan decked out like he's in a 80s action flick. .
 
Story Mode: The Tekken X Street Fighter saga. I honestly can't believe I have to learn another game's mechanics to beat this turd lol. Well, I really wouldn't if the ai wasn't broken. There's no feeling satisfied after winning battles like this. Just "finally it's fucking over with". Is there not like a written design philosphy on difficulty and fun in videogame design?

Edit: this is like fighting the worst spammer online while activating cheats and continuing to select "rematch".
 

HeelPower

Member
I am not sure why ppl are disappointed in T7's story.

Did you get badass cutscenes and ridiculous over the top dialogue ? Yes.

Hell they managed to give heihachi another aspect to his character.

Its a win in my book.
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
Story Mode: The Tekken X Street Fighter saga. I honestly can't believe I have to learn another game's mechanics to beat this turd lol. Well, I really wouldn't if the ai wasn't broken. There's no feeling satisfied after winning battles like this. Just "finally it's fucking over with". Is there not like a written design philosphy on difficulty and fun in videogame design?

Edit: this is like fighting the worst spammer online while activating cheats and continuing to select "rematch".

Side step fire balls, duck focus attack. Abuse God Fist you win
 

SenkiDala

Member
I am not sure why ppl are disappointed in T7's story.

Did you get badass cutscenes and ridiculous over the top dialogue ? Yes.

Hell they managed to give heihachi another aspect to his character.

Its a win in my book.

Yeah I play Tekken since the 1st one, so I kinda followed the story (had to refresh my memory with Wikipedia before going in T7 though), and the story of T7 is very very good, for a fighting game. Absolutly loved it.

With this and Injustice 2, it's 2 great story modes we got in few weeks.
 

cordy

Banned
Finally I got that Platinum putting me in that 1.8% for this game. Glad to be in early. Online makes it so hard because you literally have to struggle to find matches and when you do find a match they always put you with someone who's masterful in this game.

Is there anything special for ranking up online? If not then I'll just stay in Player Matches once the patch hits.
 

Jer

Member
Played some long sessions with the old college crew over the weekend. Had a lot of fun, always do with Tekken. T7 has a good feel to it, rage moves are a big improvement over just plain old rage, and the dramatic slowdowns and finishes are fun. Other than that, doesn't feel a whole lot different than T6, to be honest, but that's not a bad thing. It's a nice evolutionary improvement.

Had to bail on maining Jack-7 because my old man fingers hurt after too many debuggers. Switched to Feng, I think that'll be a better fit. He's still got enough of his T5 staples that I can start there and add in his snake dash and backturned stuff over time. I think he'll meet my long running Tekken character criteria of "can I play him like SC2 Mitsu and go 2-2 in tournaments."

Gotta finish Persona 5 before I can totally get into this, so hopefully some online QOL stuff gets fixed by then.
 

1upsuper

Member
I've been listening to Aris stream in the background and this guy is hilarious. Can't believe I'm so late to the Tekken game too. This game is dope.
 
Made a neat Hwoarang custom costume.
Never played Tekken before (and don't play fighters generally), but I'm having a blast.
Also didn't realize this dude rode a motorcycle when I made this initially, so I got really excited when I saw him ride in on a motorcycle with this costume.
 
I am not sure why ppl are disappointed in T7's story.

Did you get badass cutscenes and ridiculous over the top dialogue ? Yes.

Hell they managed to give heihachi another aspect to his character.

Its a win in my book.
It could have been told so much better, that's my issue. I wanted to see Kazuya's POV when the devil came unto him to show how it could have been misrepresented as an entity he sold his soul to to "revive" him and eventually get revenge on poppa. Instead a got this shitty narrator making nonsensical connections between scenes and events.
 
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