Tencent has paid USD 80 million to acquire 15.75% of Arrowhead Game Studios (Studio is valued at USD 532 million)

Buying bungie and firewalk studios of course.

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Never claimed to be an insider. As said specifically that I am not claiming to be an insider. As I know very very little, just the little I hear from others (mostly programmers)
You are hearing from the programmers from the opposite sides of the earth? You have pretty good hearing, ngl
 
Here's why sony didn't buy them

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To modern sony, these tweets are like garlic to a vampire
I didn't know that the studio has these views.

I don't even play gaas at all, and I never cared about multiplayer titles in general. That being said, I'm buying HellDivers2 now just to show my support. Fucking awesome stance, and they deserve my money.
 
Btw, there's an important fact to note here; Shawn Layden (former SIE/PS CEO) now works for Tencent. Its probably no coincedence this happened since he's transitioned to them. HD2 was greenlit during his tenure if I understand correctly.

I gotta hand it to this guy. He really has to have a silver tongue. I can't make sense of it any other way how he managed to climb the career ladder the way he did. I'd honestly be down with a full leadership transfer over to Japan. It would probably be an upgrade in every regard compared to the prior regime. Hulst has to be "evicted" from his position for PS to have a full recovery.

From what I understand, given that I actually know someone at Arrowhead. But I don't want to claim I'm an "insider" because they rip things out of proportion really bad.

1. Sony and Arrowhead still have a relatively good relationship, but it won't go any further
2. Both Arrowhead and Sony are to blame for their relationship not being what it used to be
  • Arrowhead nerfing all fun in the game for a while and changing things for the worse, which drove a lot of players away
  • Sony pressuring to try and get Arrowhead to monitise HD2 a lot more than it is(basically not much) and Arrowhead resisting. From what I understand, what monetisation Sony wanted bordered on ridiculous
  • Arrowhead's next game will not have anything to do with Sony in any way shape or form, and Arrowhead will never do anything with Sony in any way, shape or form ever again

Believe me or don't believe me. I could very well be making all of this up.

P.S. Not Arrowhead or Sony related

Nacon's patience with Spiders(developer) is also running thin. If it doesn't release as promised this year, and doesn't perform really well, they will be closed down.
This bulletin point has Hulst's, if not Ryan's maybe even the "money hungry old men" over at Sony Japan HQ (like Totoki), stink all over it. Especially, after how they ushered GaaS as the "future of PlayStation". PS needs to go back to the basic "developers first" mantra they used to embody and understand you can't foster and "fabricate" massive 20+ mil. IPs straight out of the gate. They have to establish something like a cult-like fandom which they grow first before they can - and I hate to say it - "expand" upon them. That's how some of the bigger tentpole titles grew to become industry "mastadons" that they are today. Upper management is in need of fresh blood that admires games from both the east and west, the work that's put into them, plus their cultural differences.

The only thing I can actually give Ryan credit for is how they established foothold on the Chinese market. That was a good move in hindsight and probably a big hurdle. Its probably paying off well now.
 
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Huh, I thought the studio belonged to Sony.

That's the funny part.
The one new GAAS game that actually was a big hit was made by the studio they don't own. Meanwhile the studios they bought specifically to make GAAS for them are all crushing and burning.

I'm sick and tired of the Chinese infecting everything.

Eh, I'm not a China fan but so far Tencent hasn't really been the boogie man people make them out to be.
These days I'd honestly rather see Tencent invest in a dev I like over some big american company that's just going to push their DEI crap in there
 
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Lets calm our tits. Compared to 343i's Halo, sure, and it's not even close. But comparing HD2 to HALO CE, no, not a thing that can be done. Halo CE was far ahead.
HD2 far exceeds its community reach. taking the studio to make a Halo game will be a downgrade.

Helldivers is more relevant to and important than halo today.

this is why HD2 is the best Halo game
 
Btw, there's an important fact to note here; Shawn Layden (former SIE/PS CEO) now works for Tencent. Its probably no coincedence this happened since he's transitioned to them. HD2 was greenlit during his tenure if I understand correctly.
He used to consult for them but not anymore.

Honestly speaking Tencent doesn't need him to find their way into this. They are one of the largest gaming firms in the world.
 
How much longer before Tencent creates their own console?
The only thing that matters is apps. They may make an app that runs on PC, mobile, cloud and has a storefront. Making hardware just limits your reach. It's old thinking. China already manufactures everyone else's hardware, including all the phones.
 
He used to consult for them but not anymore.

Honestly speaking Tencent doesn't need him to find their way into this. They are one of the largest gaming firms in the world.
Upon further research, I stand corrected. You are right. That seems to have slipped me. Disregard that snippet in the previous post.
 
The only thing that matters is apps. They may make an app that runs on PC, mobile, cloud and has a storefront. Making hardware just limits your reach. It's old thinking. China already manufactures everyone else's hardware, including all the phones.
But they don't have an app everywhere. Far from it actually.
 
But they don't have an app everywhere. Far from it actually.
I know. I was saying they need more expansion into software. Hardware is mostly becoming irrelevant in my opinion; especially closed hardware. Everyone wants their stuff on everything.
 
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Everyone wants their stuff on everything.
Do they? Who's really asking for this other than hardcore gamers. I play a ton of games and I don't even care about this. I can only play games at home I don't need my stuff everywhere. I think it's a very small amount of the gamer population that this would even benefit.
 
Do they? Who's really asking for this other than hardcore gamers. I play a ton of games and I don't even care about this. I can only play games at home I don't need my stuff everywhere. I think it's a very small amount of the gamer population that this would even benefit.
I don't think of hardcore gamers. I think of young people, international and emerging markets that don't buy closed hardware, China, South Korea, or everyone's expectation for everything going with them on any device now - music, social media, apps. Closed hardware literally doesn't exist for anyone but hardcore gamers. When I look to the future, I don't see that being a growing area personally. Just my opinion.
 
Not a bad thing for Sony. Helldivers 2 is a great game but nothing guarantees that Arrowhead's next GaaS game will be a success. Sony has seen first hand how finicky the GaaS market can be.

HH hasn't been perfect in his time co-running PlayStation but he is infinitely better than Jim was. I haven't seen anything that Jim set up that has or will pay off. He was an old business man that was out of touch with the PlayStation customer base.
 
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