I like Nadal so I didn't want to laugh at this.
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Fed really wants to play at the next olympics. I'm ok with that.
Murray would be 3rd, IMO
1. Djokovic: 1 slam, 2 slam finals, 3 Masters, Year-End Championship winner, spent most of 2012 at No. 1
2. Federer: 1 slam, 3 Masters, spent some time at No. 1
3. Murray: 1 slam, no Masters, Olympic Gold.
Career-wise, I'd say that Murray ranks 2nd in terms of achievements this year. Fed would be at the top since broke the record for most weeks spent at No. 1 (302), plus his win at Wimbledon.
Djokovic had the best year with a slam + YEC, which is better than a slam + OG. However I guess I could see the argument for Murray in some ways since he finally got a slam and the Olympics only happen every 4 years.
Also, looking back I see there is still people bagging on Fed for being a "douche". I don't think he is at all. He may come across a bit smug in interviews but if you see videos of him practicing or hanging out with other players, you would see that he is pretty much a fun relaxed guy that most of the players like. After all, he wouldn't consistently keep getting the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award which is voted on by other players if they didn't like him.
I think the Fed hate comes from his interviews which are probably a bit too PR trained like lots of top athletes. Also, he is Swiss and every Swiss I've known in real life has the same "smug" type of attitude when talking in English as Federer does. I think it is part Swiss culture and part speaking in a language that is not your main one.
Lets be realistic here.
Novak had 11 finals, won 6 lost 5. 3 GS finals won 1. 6 Master finals won 3. One 500 title and End year championship title. 6 titles in total, 5 big ones.
Andy had 6 singles finals won 3. GS 1 final, won 1. 2 master final won 0. One 250 title. Gold and silver medal(in doubles-btw this is not counted when voting for player of the year but even if it does it doesn't change much). On top of that Olympic medal never really ranked up there with slams just if that wasn't clear.
End year points
Djokovic 12.920
Andy 8000
ALMOST 5000 difference. That explains everything.
Just because he won his first slam, doesn't mean you ignore what someone else has achived. He was not as consistent as Novak and Roger were, and even Rafa before the wimbledon. If there was no injury who knows what would have happened. Next season Andy needs to be more consistent.
Best (new) imitation from Novak!
Imitating Guga Kuerten LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjgcczGvZb4
Imitating Guga Kuerten LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjgcczGvZb4
Haha nice. When did Djokovic play Guga?
Today in Rio. Exebitional match guga won
I think it was opening of some tennis center in one of the favelas. Tomorow he is also going to play soccer match with Zico, Cafu, Bebeto and some other Brazilian legends.
He looks more like John McEnroe in that wig
Djoker had the best 2012 season by considerable margin, but no one was wondering at the beginning of the season who would snatch YEC, all speculations were focused on slams and the Olympics.
Against Novak, it seems mostly mental for Roger, once he loses one big point he implodes, last week he missed the sitter on the first set point in the second set and after that it was as if he lost all the confidence. Same story SF USO 2011, on the first match point Djoker hit that big FH return and Fed mentally went away.
It's not.
Djoker had the best 2012 season by considerable margin, but no one was wondering at the beginning of the season who would snatch YEC, all speculations were focused on slams and the Olympics.
I call BS on that one. Yes he tends to shank BH often, but it used to be much more solid back in the day. 2HBH would probably hold up better against Rafa's forehand, but he would probably still be owned by Rafa on clay and he was not meeting Nadal outside clay all that often.
Against Novak, it seems mostly mental for Roger, once he loses one big point he implodes, last week he missed the sitter on the first set point in the second set and after that it was as if he lost all the confidence. Same story SF USO 2011, on the first match point Djoker hit that big FH return and Fed mentally went away.
Sax Russel
Banned
Djokovic easily. Still great for Murray that he won his first grand slam (finally), and that he grabbed Olympic gold in his home country, but those two single achievements can't match the consistency Djokovic displayed over the whole year.
perfectchaos007
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Gustavo Kuerten def. Novak Djokovic today 7-6, 7-5 in an exhibition. I think when the top players play exhibition matches against retired competition, they are secretly giving them motivation to un-retire and get back on tour.
Novak Djokovic's New Secret Weapon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOcwj5IHh2o&feature=share&list=UUmLBmGKjSo0OvXsELS20ZzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOcwj5IHh2o&feature=share&list=UUmLBmGKjSo0OvXsELS20ZzQ
perfectchaos007
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they better let him play with a white frame.
Diprosalic
Banned
did not see that coming.
edit: nevermind seems like a wrong information.
ANyone checking the Federer tour in South America? It's pretty entertaining, would be fun to attend a match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3QhjP610rY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3QhjP610rY
No doubt, no doubt. If you look at actual performance and winning, he's far behind. Significance wise tho I'd say he's up there for the year, things got shook up again in tennis. Last time a slam got won outside of big 3 was with delpotro and even before that was Safin in 2005
20 days until Australian Open, can't wait! Tennis season begins even sooner
O and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U01AnDuDZhM&feature=youtu.be
O and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U01AnDuDZhM&feature=youtu.be
Good Job Bob
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The crowd in Argentina was huge and passionate, seems like a pretty nice market for tennis there, don't know why the ATP isn't biting.
Petkovic is great. Attractive, fun personality, witty. One of the few sportspeople actually worth following on Twitter.
Anyways, Nadal just pulled out the Abu Dhabi exhibition that was supposed to be his return to tennis before the AO due to a "stomach virus". I wonder if he'll pull out of the AO..
ugh please no
Sax Russel
Banned
"Stomach virus" could be secret code for "my knees are still fucked"
But hopefully not
But hopefully not
Likely to drop to 5 at least. Ferrer would almost certainly overtake him at the AO. Would also be hard for him to get back to the top 4 in time for the FO.
Wow.
Stomach virus my ass. :lol Nadal is looking done at this point, it'd be a real shame.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
looks like another joke draw for djokovic coming up.
Sax Russel
Banned
Well. Poop. =(
perfectchaos007
Member
Sucks to see his career effectively end like this. He put his body through too much early in his career, and apparently the damage is irreversible.
VistraNorrez
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This is depressing now. I think we all knew Nadal's injuries would end his career but a stomach virus taking him out of a Slam is sad. I hope he gets the proper rest and recovers well so he can go out with bang rather than a whimper.
Good Job Bob
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Oh that's a shame.
Eh, I wouldn't say it's that bad yet - people have said that before and then he returns to own everyone without losing games at Roland Garros.
But it's what happens when you play like that and no one is allowed to say 2013 slam wins have asterisks behind them.
It will be a tall order getting 5 more slams if he only plays half of them. He isn't exactly young for a tennis player either, he is around the age when players start to decline a little.