Terminator rights sell for $29.5 million

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Scullibundo said:
You do realise its 29.5m for the RIGHTS to make the movie, not 29.5 mil budget to make the movie itself. :lol

Yes, that's what I am saying. If you 're going to make a big budget Hollywood blockbuster (or blockbusters) and you can slap the Terminator name on it for just 30 mil, well that certainly looks to be a good return of investment.
 
PantherLotus said:
It's funny that Worthington gets retroactively better because of Avatar.
?

When T4 came out, pretty much everone was saying Worthington was much better than Bale and was good in the flick.
 
Dabanton said:
Yep this is one franchise reboot i could agree with.

Also the future visions were fun in short bursts but a whole film set there was always going to be lacking.
They were executed quite poorly in the 4th film - mostly CGI, bigger robots for no good reason. Total lack of tension when the bad guys aren't scary anymore.
 
Yasae said:
They were executed quite poorly in the 4th film - mostly CGI, bigger robots for no good reason. Total lack of tension when the bad guys aren't scary anymore.

But I really liked the mechs in that film. And the sound they made. Could have been a great setting for a videogame (el oh el)
 
Scullibundo said:
Shutup shutup shutup! Not everything needs to exist in theatres all the time. The franchise needs to be allowed to DIE. It needs to fucking die already. It doesn't need a goddamn reboot.

How about since the prequels were so bad we reboot Empire Strikes Back. How about we reboot Godfather since Godfather part III was so terrible? Should Raiders be remade?

:lol Calm down Sculli

Those films mentioned with the exception of Godfather 3 were all good. A Terminator reboot would leave the two original films were they were as i don't count 3 and 4 as canon.

I'd rather they reboot than mess it up even more.
 
Dabanton said:
:lol Calm down Sculli

Those films mentioned with the exception of Godfather 3 were all good. A Terminator reboot would leave the two original films were they were as i don't count 3 and 4 as canon.

I'd rather they reboot than mess it up even more.

You don't seem to have understood his point at all.

Why is rebooting Terminator any more sensible than rebooting Star Wars, The Godfather or Indiana Jones?

In each case the original one or two films are all-time classics and the later ones are mindless cinematic pap.

It would have been far better simply to just stop the franchises while they were still on a high, rather than degrade them with increasing inferior sequels/prequels.

For all those examples the original premise had already come to its logical conclusion in the first couple of films.

There shouldn't be any more Terminators, for example, because as the fourth film made clear there isn't any more (sensible) story to tell.
 
$30m for these rights is a wildly overinflated price for such a stale franchise.

The network TV series? A solid performer but cancelled after 2 seasons.

The big film reboot? Underperformed.

The film tie in video game? Flopped.

The Terminator franchise at this point is incredibly tired. It needs to go away and find a way to make itself exciting again to it's target audience. Otherwise, in terms of future films, we're looking at a potential 'reboot of a reboot'? Pfft. What a waste of time and money.

It seems to me that this move is more of an investment than an actual effort to make more films in the Terminator universe. I fully expect these rights to just sit on a shelf for a few years and then be sold on for a profit or for absolute peanuts.
 
It's a total fanboy dream, but I wish Cameron would've bought the right :/.

He could've just EP'd the next movie, and I'd be fine with it.
 
a Master Ninja said:
I'm skeptical this franchise can be resurrected. Terminator 1 was a great sci-fi film. Terminator 2 was a great action flick. Terminator 3 and 4 sucked ass.

How do you make people care again? A remake of the original?


Perhaps by making a good sequel.
 
I don't think the franchise is dead yet. It just hasn't been in competent hands for a long time. A reboot in the quality of last years Star Trek could safe it. By someone who really understands what Terminator is about, not someone who confuses Terminators with Transformers.
 
I'm pretty sure 95% of GAF could write a better sequel than the heap of crap we got from T3 and Salvation. There's only one thing I can give to Salvation, is that, visually, it's very nice.
 
30 millions is really not alot of money. EA can buy it and make the money back with a couple of games.
 
If I were a billionaire, one of my hobbies would be to buy up the rights of the film franchises whose stories I (or the original writers/directors) considered to be finished, and sit on them so no one else could do anything with them. I realise I would become one of the most hated people in the world, but I'd consider that a small price to pay if it stopped all this reboot/reimagining bullshit.

James Cameron: "Dude, the story I wanted to tell in the Terminator universe is over. Hold the rights for me please, for $30 million".

Me: Sure thing James, here's your cash. Let me know if you change your mind"
 
does the 30 millions includes the right to the designs and so on? Or its really just for the rights to make a movie based on the terminator franchise?
 
Blader5489 said:
Terminator was never good to begin with anyway.

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shuri said:
does the 30 millions includes the right to the designs and so on? Or its really just for the rights to make a movie based on the terminator franchise?

All future Terminator films and TV shows, according to here. I don't know how reliable that site is though.

Blader5489 said:
Terminator was never good to begin with anyway.

Blasphemy.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Hmm. Good point. That's basically what I've done with the Alien series - it ended at Aliens, as far as I'm concerned - but I saw the last two and did kind of regret it. I want the time I spent watching Resurrection back. :\

And on that note...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E5D3OCJn-Y

Everything was so cool about this movie, from the look, to the musical score, and no other weapon ever will sound as badass as the M41A Pulse rifle.
 
Barberetti said:
If I were a billionaire, one of my hobbies would be to buy up the rights of the film franchises whose stories I (or the original writers/directors) considered to be finished, and sit on them so no one else could do anything with them. I realise I would become one of the most hated people in the world, but I'd consider that a small price to pay if it stopped all this reboot/reimagining bullshit.

James Cameron: "Dude, the story I wanted to tell in the Terminator universe is over. Hold the rights for me please, for $30 million".

Me: Sure thing James, here's your cash. Let me know if you change your mind"
I don't see the rationale behind this. The original movies still exist, its not like by remaking them they remove all trace of the previous movie. I don't gain or lose anything if they remake a movie why does it matter so much?
 
BertramCooper said:
MAKE IT STOP.

The franchise is dead. Abso-fucking-lutely dead. I would have thought Salvation proved that to these people, but they still want to keep the bitch on life support. The story is so incredibly convoluted that it doesn't make one lick of sense anymore.

Just end it, Halcyon. Terminator is DEAD. It should have ended after T2, but no, they just keep on milking it. It's beyond saving.


How about a sort of reboot which takes effect immediately after the events of T2....

T3 and Salvation never happened, right? Right?


If Bond and Batman have shown us, you can alwasy say f*ck you to the shitty installments and do justice by the original material by bringing in folks who want to do right by them.

Create something badass and the world will forget...
 
ImperialConquest said:
How about a sort of reboot which takes effect immediately after the events of T2....

T3 and Salvation never happened, right? Right?


If Bond and Batman have shown us, you can alwasy say f*ck you to the shitty installments and do justice by the original material by bringing in folks who want to do right by them.
Half-reboots don't really work. I think Superman Returns made that pretty clear. Once a storyline is established, you can't really go back and pick and choose what you want to retcon without people getting confused. You either pick up where the last one left off or wipe the slate clean and start from scratch.

Both Bond and Batman were full reboots, though as a Bond buff, I personally think the series reboots every time a new Bond actor enters the picture. People who think that Sean Connery Bond and Pierce Brosnan Bond are the same person are pretty deluded, IMO. But that's for another thread.
 
BertramCooper said:
MAKE IT STOP.

The franchise is dead. Abso-fucking-lutely dead. I would have thought Salvation proved that to these people, but they still want to keep the bitch on life support. The story is so incredibly convoluted that it doesn't make one lick of sense anymore.

Just end it, Halcyon. Terminator is DEAD. It should have ended after T2, but no, they just keep on milking it. It's beyond saving.
If I could have babies with a block of text I'd be giving birth to quintuplets right now.

*applause*

Kill it til its eyes go blank. Crush it, stomp it, make it fucking go away.
 
NullPointer said:
If I could have babies with a block of text I'd be giving birth to quintuplets right now.

*applause*

Kill it til its eyes go blank. Crush it, stomp it, make it fucking go away.
:lol Thanks. My opinions on this subject are pretty strong.

Salvation was just unbearable. Made by total idiots, I swear.

In Salvation, Skynet is trying to kill John Connor by capturing Kyle Reese and using him as bait. Instead of doing all of that, why not just kill Kyle immediately, which would prevent John Connor from ever being born? Did you ever consider that, you fucking stupid robots?
 
BertramCooper said:
:lol Thanks. My opinions on this subject are pretty strong.

Salvation was just unbearable. Made by total idiots, I swear.

Okay, so the Terminators are trying to capture John Connor by capturing Kyle Reese and using him as bait. Instead of doing all of that, why not just kill Kyle immediately, which would prevent John Connor from ever being born? Did you ever consider that, you fucking stupid robots?
The whole premise of time traveling in Terminator is flawed to begin with--why didn't Arnold disappear when they destroyed all the Cyberdyne stuff?
 
There are two Terminator movies.

The Terminator
Terminator 2: Judgement Day

There is one Terminator attraction - T2 3-D: Battle Across Time

There is also a Terminator 2 pinball game.

There is nothing else.
No more movies.
No TV series.
No vidja gaemz.


numble said:
The whole premise of time traveling in Terminator is flawed to begin with--why didn't Arnold disappear when they destroyed all the Cyberdyne stuff?

Welcome to causality.
Actions applied to the present state of the universe consequently result in the next immediate future state.
[Present](actions) => [Future]

Destroying the Cyberdyne lab merely prevents that lab from developing Skynet.
Traveling backwards in time and killing yourself before you go back doesn't mean you'll disappear. It simply means you've killed yourself. There is no magical link between your time-traveling self and the guy you just killed. You won't slowly disappear from photographs. You'll be standing there over the dead body of a younger-looking you.
 
Mudkips said:
Welcome to causality.
Actions applied to the present state of the universe consequently result in the next immediate future state.
[Present](actions) => [Future]

Destroying the Cyberdyne lab merely prevents that lab from developing Skynet.
Traveling backwards in time and killing yourself before you go back doesn't mean you'll disappear. It simply means you've killed yourself. There is no magical link between your time-traveling self and the guy you just killed. You won't slowly disappear from photographs. You'll be standing there over the dead body of a younger-looking you.
Which means it makes no sense that killing Kyle would do anything, suggested in the post I first replied to.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Ever hear of this movie called Star Trek?
How is Star Trek a not a full reboot? Same characters, yes, but an entirely new timeline and significantly different character backstories. I wouldn't consider myself a Trekkie by any means, so please, enlighten me.
 
PantherLotus said:
It's funny that Worthington gets retroactively better because of Avatar.

Whaaaat? I rememer when T4 came out, everyone was talking about how great he was compared to the rest of the cast. He was the "breakout star"; I got sick of hearing it.

Still haven't seen the film. Or Avatar.
 
Furret said:
You don't seem to have understood his point at all.

Why is rebooting Terminator any more sensible than rebooting Star Wars, The Godfather or Indiana Jones?

In each case the original one or two films are all-time classics and the later ones are mindless cinematic pap.

It would have been far better simply to just stop the franchises while they were still on a high, rather than degrade them with increasing inferior sequels/prequels.

For all those examples the original premise had already come to its logical conclusion in the first couple of films.

There shouldn't be any more Terminators, for example, because as the fourth film made clear there isn't any more (sensible) story to tell.


I know that. But do the people who have just splashed the cash know that the Terminator storyline is played out?

Or do you think they will push ahead with another Terminator film i think we both know the answer to that.

They don't care how messy and convoluted the storyline gets the Terminator is still a fairly profitable franchise.
 
BertramCooper said:
MAKE IT STOP.

The franchise is dead. Abso-fucking-lutely dead. I would have thought Salvation proved that to these people, but they still want to keep the bitch on life support. The story is so incredibly convoluted that it doesn't make one lick of sense anymore.

Just end it, Halcyon. Terminator is DEAD. It should have ended after T2, but no, they just keep on milking it. It's beyond saving.

I really enjoyed the TV series, bad writing and all...

Having a hawt Terminator is a new dream of mine..
 
Mudkips said:
Traveling backwards in time and killing yourself before you go back doesn't mean you'll disappear. It simply means you've killed yourself. There is no magical link between your time-traveling self and the guy you just killed. You won't slowly disappear from photographs. You'll be standing there over the dead body of a younger-looking you.
Then where the hell did you come from if your past self never lived to be you?
 
$30 mil? Fuck James Cameron should've just bought it with his pocket change just to kill the series off once and forever. I'm sure it must be painful for him watch his brainchild getting flushed down the toilet over and over again.

Two unsuccessful movies and a canceled TV show and this franchise is still alive? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE!
 
BertramCooper said:
:lol Thanks. My opinions on this subject are pretty strong.

Salvation was just unbearable. Made by total idiots, I swear.

In Salvation, Skynet is trying to kill John Connor by capturing Kyle Reese and using him as bait. Instead of doing all of that, why not just kill Kyle immediately, which would prevent John Connor from ever being born? Did you ever consider that, you fucking stupid robots?

Also if Sam Worthington's character is an 'advanced' terminator why not send him back to the past to kill John Connor?

Also where was the T-1000 and the female terminator in Salvation surely they would be better for fighting the resistance than the T-800's they had wandering around?
 
Dabanton said:
Also if Sam Worthington's character is an 'advanced' terminator why not send him back to the past to kill John Connor?

Also where was the T-1000 and the female terminator in Salvation surely they would be better for fighting the resistance than the T-800's they had wandering around?

Does the technology for time travel exist yet?

I mean Salvation does predates T1, T2's, and T3's future timeline and the T-800 model 101 are the newer Terminators being introduced.
 
black_13 said:
Domestically they both bombed, not sure why they made so much World wide though.

Really, it's not that much for two MAJOR blockbusters. Not much at all.

They both really underperformed.
 
BertramCooper said:
MAKE IT STOP.

The franchise is dead. Abso-fucking-lutely dead.

Ehh, I figure at this point, the damage has already been done. Might as well let someone finish the second trilogy so we can finally get a taste of the future war we've been waiting for since T2. :\




Oh, and fund a DVD/BD movie to end off tSCC
 
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