HeartlessNobody213
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Full self driving hardware? Right on time for me.
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Tesla Model 3 will be revealed on March 31st
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https://electrek.co/2016/10/19/tesla-fully-autonomous-self-driving-car/?pushup=1
But does this mean it won't be a software purchase?
Yes.
But does this mean it won't be a software purchase?
brochiller
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And where is the Model 3 news?
There's no stream. It's a press release announcement with a conference call going on right now where they're answering questions with press. We'll see the results of that call when it's over (assuming another 30 minutes or so).
And, yeah, I gotta say I have no idea how Elon thinks this is Model 3 part 2 without showing the car at all.
it's just the press release and a media call
brochiller
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Wow they are going straight for full Level 5 autonomy. Nobody else is even close to this.
This means that no human input is necessary for these vehicles.
This means that no human input is necessary for these vehicles.
This is insane. I knew it was coming but "all cars starting now being lvl 5 capable is so fucking awesome
lvl 5 means it could literally not even have controls
lvl 5 means it could literally not even have controls
Well that sucks. What's the dial in number?
Here are the SAE levels.
Level 0: Automated system has no vehicle control, but may issue warnings.
Level 1: Driver must be ready to take control at any time. Automated system may include features such as Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Parking Assistance with automated steering, and Lane Keeping Assistance (LKA) Type II in any combination.
Level 2: The driver is obliged to detect objects and events and respond if the automated system fails to respond properly. The automated system executes accelerating, braking, and steering. The automated system can deactivate immediately upon takeover by the driver.
Level 3: Within known, limited environments (such as freeways), the driver can safely turn their attention away from driving tasks.
Level 4: The automated system can control the vehicle in all but a few environments such as severe weather. The driver must enable the automated system only when it is safe to do so. When enabled, driver attention is not required.
Level 5: Other than setting the destination and starting the system, no human intervention is required. The automatic system can drive to any location where it is legal to drive.
Level 0: Automated system has no vehicle control, but may issue warnings.
Level 1: Driver must be ready to take control at any time. Automated system may include features such as Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Parking Assistance with automated steering, and Lane Keeping Assistance (LKA) Type II in any combination.
Level 2: The driver is obliged to detect objects and events and respond if the automated system fails to respond properly. The automated system executes accelerating, braking, and steering. The automated system can deactivate immediately upon takeover by the driver.
Level 3: Within known, limited environments (such as freeways), the driver can safely turn their attention away from driving tasks.
Level 4: The automated system can control the vehicle in all but a few environments such as severe weather. The driver must enable the automated system only when it is safe to do so. When enabled, driver attention is not required.
Level 5: Other than setting the destination and starting the system, no human intervention is required. The automatic system can drive to any location where it is legal to drive.
There's no dial-in number. It's an invite-only call for press. Here's the press release on their blog:
https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware
Living the Dream
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This is HUGE news, yet they're treating it as just a bullet point.
Dreams-Visions
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Very nice.
Woke up this morning and immediately checked the news.
- Announcement will be Model 3 part 2 --> "Oh my god, it's happening!"
- Announcement was exclusively about Autopilot 2.0. --> :/
Don't get me wrong. This is huge and I'm very glad I will have the full hardware for it installed in my Model 3 on day one. My fear was that the would only start adding AP 2.0 hardware via a Model 3 refresh sometime after the launch.
The price is a little steep and I hope it will be a little lower once the Model 3 is ready to configure. Musk said that Model S and X buyers are financing the Model 3 which could mean that they ask for a premium price there and are then able to offer similar features to Model 3 owners at a slight discount.
Initially I was sure to add AP to my configuration on day one but now I'll either just go for the middle tier or spend the money on a bigger battery and think about AP later.
I still hoped that we would see the final Model 3 interior during the part 2 reveal...
- Announcement will be Model 3 part 2 --> "Oh my god, it's happening!"
- Announcement was exclusively about Autopilot 2.0. --> :/
Don't get me wrong. This is huge and I'm very glad I will have the full hardware for it installed in my Model 3 on day one. My fear was that the would only start adding AP 2.0 hardware via a Model 3 refresh sometime after the launch.
The price is a little steep and I hope it will be a little lower once the Model 3 is ready to configure. Musk said that Model S and X buyers are financing the Model 3 which could mean that they ask for a premium price there and are then able to offer similar features to Model 3 owners at a slight discount.
Initially I was sure to add AP to my configuration on day one but now I'll either just go for the middle tier or spend the money on a bigger battery and think about AP later.
I still hoped that we would see the final Model 3 interior during the part 2 reveal...
Shiroi-San
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Tesla just posted a video of it in motion. It looks pretty cool, especially the self parking bit at the end.
https://www.tesla.com/videos/full-self-driving-hardware-all-teslas
https://www.tesla.com/videos/full-self-driving-hardware-all-teslas
Night Hunter
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But to be serious, the parking at the end was pretty awesome. Although at least the last part had to be in a controlled environment.
Its going to be interesting to see people's pictures of what their Tesla's think are parking spots.
I could see someone's road rage getting triggered by that wide turn into the wrong lane it did when leaving the parking lot.
Otherwise I want self driving now!
Sony
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the car didn't stop for the stop sign at 3.05?
From which perspective is it cost prohibitive? The person buying a Tesla or preordering a Tesla 3 are not your average car consumer.
I don't think any self driving car in the next ten years will cost less that 40k.
People expect self driving cars to be under $40k within the next decade? People are smarter than that.
Dude, people are going to vote for Trump.
It will also enable you to have the car drive people around while you're at work and get paid for it. Hence the "Tesla Network" reference on the order screen. Kind of a huge announcement they snuck in there.
I conceed to you. Good point.
To me this was the most surprising statement. It's an obvious application of their technology but I wasn't expecting them to focus so soon. Business and investors will eat this up!
Bboy AJ
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I don't understand why people are not flipping out. This news is unprecedented. It is real auto driving. I am having a hard time believing it. It'll probably only work on certain roads for now. It's insane.
Did it seem sped up? Some of the acceleration seemed a little quick. Especially one of the first merges.
If car can accelerate to 60mph within a 3 seconds, it looks fast.
Bubba_Sparks
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I look forward to a demonstration video from somewhere that isn't sunny California where the traffic is light, there are no pedestrians, the roads are wide and they all meet at right angles
I think it's going to be restricted from areas that have bad weather or very difficult driving. They'll start where it's easy and then move to harder areas I think. Crazy that it's at this stage in a commercial vehicle in 2016.
Would most people want to do this? It sounds good in theory until some asshole takes a shit in your glovebox
I wouldn't want people in my personal car without me being there, but I can see people doing it just enough to make their monthly payment. Hell, people may buy several of these just to use for this.
anonymous_abc
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Honestly at some point why even own your own car, just hail one of those self driving UberTeslas.
I can easily see a future where you just pay 200$ a month for unlimited or set amount of rides.
Well, that is quite impressive. Especially how they handle stops and highway exits.
I certainly hope it's sped up, else the drive would have been quite uncomfortable
While it is very impressive, what they've shown is not in a commercial vehicle.
Even their statement just says the vehicles will have the hardware from now on, not if the SW will be activate (which right now it won't, as it would be illegal)
And although it's very impressive, there's lots of situation I'd like to see the system in before I trust it, especially dense traffic.
Also interesting they don't have any lidar, and no radar (or lidar) looking to the back...
Septimus Prime
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Damn, it doesn't even use its turn signals! That's some Turing-level human-like driving!
It's sped up. Look at the movements of the person's hands and you'll be able to tell.
The car does a few things that aren't 100% safe (pulling out of the first driveway without stopping, pulling into the oncoming lane before the drop-off at the end), but remember, this is without the millions of miles of data it will be collecting and probably another year of improvement before it goes live. It's still pretty damn amazing where we're at now.
This right here isn't true, we are talking about an autonomous vehicle, with more awareness than a human person can possibly have. Humans only have to stop to check both ways due to the fact humans can't see both areas at the same time and calculate the distance of oncoming pedestrians/vehicles.
I stop to say it was 100% safe, but I would argue that it being this aware of it's surroundings make things like traffic lights and stop signs near useless. The only reason we will still have such signs and lights is for the human drivers on the road with the autonomous vehicles.
At some point when U.S goes full autonomous, I would expect traffic lights, stop signs, and other such signs to be of no use as the cars will probably communicate with one another to determine who should go first. Of course, I am talking several decades worth of time though.
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I need this car, ASAP!
Hope that the upgrade's price will go down by the time the car is released. 🙄
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