I said media and then you say what about these countries and this specific incident not related to the media.It's just not true. There are real life, measurable material impacts that people are upset about. You can agree or disagree but suggesting people are faking being outraged is absolutely absurd. Domestic terrorism is starting to slowly simmer. Social security staff and offices are being shuttered. Tens of thousands of people have been fired, illegally. Thousands of poor and vulnerable people have already lost health care with Medicaid cuts. Evilore highlighted a veteran that's likely to die because his clinical cancer trials just got shut off abruptly, illegally. What are you even talking about? Do you think Canada and Greenland are performatively outraged? Or Germany?
The media is mostly downplaying it, not performatively outraged. They haven't shown a single Bernie rally on the news despite record breaking crowds. They don't highlight any protests. Fox news and all right wing media is tepidly criticizing stock market declines. Washington Post had most of their editorial staff resign because criticizing the oligarchy is now off limits, per Jeff Bezos. Musk has not been subjected to a single hostile interview. You're just not living in the same reality I am.I said media and then you say what about these countries and this specific incident not related to the media.
I am all for shutting down multiple government agencies, especially USAID, and the Department of Education. And many others as well. Will when you are doing this stuff some things happen that are bad, certainly. It is unfortunate, but the American government has grown too large and too unchecked in its reach and needs to be culled. Tragic that some bad things will happen. I even think some of the cutting could affect my lively hood. But I will figure it out if it does.
As far as these other countries, they have lived off the American trade of we will Tariff you but you will free trade us for too long. The EU has lived off the security of US defense, without contributing much for a while. So they need to expand their defensive strength. Canada has had a free ride living next to the US. the Mayor threatening to tariff US electricity sales was abhorrent, and he backed off of it. Canada has put high Tariffs on US imports for years, and we have funded their government spending with it. Why should the US continue to do that. Compete fairly. Let US products into your economies at the same price we let your products into ours. I think that is a reasonable thing to ask.
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20 points to myself for being reasonable.
10 points toPunished Miku for talking around a topic.
IF it was someone the left liked and was a liberal president they wouldn't care and the right would be up in arms about it. It is all performative outrage for the most part.
I want to shrink the size of government, so I hope we get that out of all of this. Reduce government by 50% across the board. Defense too.
Well know, it just depends on who is saying it. If their guy is saying it it is good, if it is the other people guy it is bad. Not about the message just the messenger. Plenty of Dems have said they wanted to reduce waste and fraud.So, left wing people become right wing and vice versa, depending on who's in charge?
I see.
That used to be true some 10 / 20 years ago.āIf this grandmother had a penis sheād be a grandfatherā
Ehhhhh, the majority of soldiers in WW2 were draftees/conscripts, i.e. forced labor. Not sure you wanna die on that hill of comparing folks choosing to work for the government with those FORCED to.DOGE is just an advisory group of boring accountants guys. They just make impartial recommendations and that's it.
If you refer to their latest report, Line 51C-Section 4, they note that all government workers are murderous nazis and suggest cutting funding in that area.
Totally normal.
Community note: Public sector employees also defeated the nazis.
Well know, it just depends on who is saying it. If their guy is saying it it is good, if it is the other people guy it is bad. Not about the message just the messenger. Plenty of Dems have said they wanted to reduce waste and fraud.
Retweeted by Elon MuskEhhhhh, the majority of soldiers in WW2 were draftees/conscripts, i.e. forced labor. Not sure you wanna die on that hill of comparing folks choosing to work for the government with those FORCED to.
By changing what taxes we collect to ones that can't be skimped out on.How do you catch all the people skimping out on their taxes by slashing the IRS?
you either go scorched earth
The delivery has a lot to do with it. Certainly people do not like the way Trump delivers a message. And they use to love the way Elon did it, until he hitched a ride with Trump.Or, maybe more importantly, it's the way you say things and the way you do things? Or is it just you either go scorched earth or you're pro waste and fraud?
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People are celebrating burning citizens personal property (who have nothing to do with this) in this very thread.
We are now getting close to get this thread closed. However, the problem is that your statement is factually incorrect.As far as these other countries, they have lived off the American trade of we will Tariff you but you will free trade us for too long.
Agree. It is important to note that this was the wanted position/policy of all US administrations until very recently though. There was a major question mark around continental Europe arming itself. After the second world war there was a major rift with De Gaulle because he armed France. The US only wanted the UK to have significant armed forces while France, Spain, Italy and in particular Germany should only have had anaemic forces with bases and so on that the US and UK could link up to in case of conflict (with Russia).The EU has lived off the security of US defense, without contributing much for a while. So they need to expand their defensive strength.
Irrelevant.
That kind of shit (trashing stores, mobbing, chaining themselves to a post, burning cars etc....) are a very left wing thing. For some reason, when things dont go their way they amp up going mental.![]()
People are celebrating burning citizens personal property (who have nothing to do with this) in this very thread.
100%That kind of shit (trashing stores, mobbing, chaining themselves to a post, burning cars etc....) are a very left wing thing. For some reason, when things dont go their way they amp up going mental.
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It's crazy because they actually think the general population is going to side with them on it.
They really do have an issue thinking things through to the end reality.
Some of these people online (and the people commiting domestic terrorism) are acting like they want a civil war with Right wingers or to go to war with the US. Lol.
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Hey, at least itās not trying to overthrow the government.That kind of shit (trashing stores, mobbing, chaining themselves to a post, burning cars etc....) are a very left wing thing. For some reason, when things dont go their way they amp up going mental.
... again *Hey, at least itās not trying to overthrow the government.
Thats ok. It lasted 1 day and then everything was back to normal. Seattle had a CHOP zone where angry people took over blocks of buildings and even their democrat gov didnt feel like doing anything about it for a month.Hey, at least itās not trying to overthrow the government.
Yeah, we had threads about it here. It was trashed nonstop by virtually everyone, left and right. Everyone on here but like 2 people defended Kyle Rittinhouse even. There were streams every night and we all cheered on the police busts.Thats ok. It lasted 1 day and then everything was back to normal. Seattle had a CHOP zone where angry people took over blocks of buildings and even their democrat gov didnt feel like doing anything about it for a month.
It actually helps republicans when they go mental because every social media site and TV channel shows the looting, burning or people clogging streets protesting it just pisses off the masses. And whenever theres a big thing going on (ie. big mobs causing trouble), every news station shows it no matter what part of the spectrum they are on.100%
It's crazy because they actually think the general population is going to side with them on it.
They really do have an issue thinking things through to the end reality.
Some of these people online (and the people commiting domestic terrorism) are acting like they want a civil war with Right wingers or to go to war with the US. Lol.
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I wouldn't do that - you may find someone comes along and pours custard on your windscreen or some other equally heinious act of terror.We have a Tesla dealership just a few blocks down from us. A handful of activistis with "HONK IF YOU HATE ELON" and "ELONS A NAZI" blah blah blah. No one gives a shit. If i wasnt buying a house at the moment id be tempted to roll out of there with a model 3 just for the gratification of seeing them flip out.
It actually helps republicans when they go mental because every social media site and TV channel shows the looting, burning or people clogging streets protesting it just pisses off the masses. And whenever theres a big thing going on (ie. big mobs causing trouble), every news station shows it no matter what part of the spectrum they are on.
They claim to represent a side, but in reality only in name only. Most democrats arent far left leaning. Most people are going to be moderate to some degree, not far left or far right. But because even the wacky people claim to be democrats they all get bucketed the same whether they like it or not because in the US there's only two parties. Even their politicians skew to hard left leaning topics, so even on stage the politicians have a new definition and face of liberals. It's not moderate Bill Clinton and Obama going on TV talking boring business and economy topics thats for sure.
Along with a few assassination attempts on Trump....with a side of blowing up a few Cybertrucks in front of his buildings in mostly peaceful "protest".Thats ok. It lasted 1 day and then everything was back to normal. Seattle had a CHOP zone where angry people took over blocks of buildings and even their democrat gov didnt feel like doing anything about it for a month.
Have you read anything about either of those incidents or the people behind them? Maybe you should.Along with a few assassination attempts on Trump....with a side of blowing up a few Cybertrucks in front of his buildings in mostly peaceful "protest".
I mean dang, sounds like you or anyone you like are literally entitled to do basically anything you can think of and it's just evening the score.
That kind of shit (trashing stores, mobbing, chaining themselves to a post, burning cars etc....) are a very left wing thing. For some reason, when things dont go their way they amp up going mental.
I've never endorsed anything criminal. I'm not defending any of it. You are, repeatedly along with
We know, we know.....Right wingers are the one's who want to kill Trump.False narrative - plenty of people are crazy. You got plenty of right wingers storming the capital, using cybertrucks as bombs, random hate crimes against minorities, etc.
You only believe this either because you just don't care to look or you don't want to see negatives with your "team"
We know, we know.....Right wingers are the one's who want to kill Trump.
That must be why almost all the districts shifted red and he gained with every demographic.
They must be the one's fire bombing Teslas too.
The āleftā was super against all kinds of things Biden was doing, Palestine for instance.IF it was someone the left liked and was a liberal president they wouldn't care and the right would be up in arms about it. It is all performative outrage for the most part.
I want to shrink the size of government, so I hope we get that out of all of this. Reduce government by 50% across the board. Defense too.
VW are working on the ID.every1 (shit name), which is a car they should've released in 2019, imho. But better late than never, I guess.
And if you want a good electric sports car, you're far better off with a Porsche Taycan. Renault are also doing some good electric vehicles for every-day usage.
So there are other and better options out there than Tesla.
That's strange the Model S Plaid beat the Taycan lap times at the NĆ¼rburgring Nordschleife by 8 secs (and holds the record).And if you want a good electric sports car, you're far better off with a Porsche Taycan.
Does any EV hold it's value compared to an equivalent ICE car? Seems like the battery exhaustion problem would be like every ICE car needing a total engine rebuild every 10 years, or at least the bill for all the maintenace only coming due in that time, whether you were the original owner or not.Taycan depreciation is deadly.
Itās a problem for all EVs yes.Does any EV hold its value compared to an equivalent ICE car? Seems like the battery exhaustion problem would be like every ICE car needing a total engine rebuild every 10 years, or at least the bill for all the maintenace only coming due in that time, whether you were the original owner or not.
The amount you save between maintenance and fuel, more than covers the cost of any maintenance you would require after 8-10 years. The battery is covered for 8 years or a certain amount of mileage.Seems like the battery exhaustion problem would be like every ICE car needing a total engine rebuild every 10 years, or at least the bill for all the maintenace only coming due in that time, whether you were the original owner or not.
Obviously not by itself. Duh. Like, what are we talking about here?You're not getting spending under control by making cuts to less than one percent of the federal budget and reducing our nation's capacity to collect revenue.
That's the kind of thing people can vote on. No one campaigned on cutting Social Security and Medicare so no one voted on it.Obviously not by itself. Duh. Like, what are we talking about here?
Less taxes hopefully means less permissibility to spend. I don't see a problem with that.
Or, how about this: since you're so invested in cutting a big chunk of the federal budget, how about we start gutting the hilariously redistributionist welfare state? A slim majority of American households aren't even paying income tax.
But all that maintenance cost savings is meaningless to the next owner who now is facing a MASSIVE battery replacement charge.The amount you save between maintenance and fuel, more than covers the cost of any maintenance you would require after 8-10 years. The battery is covered for 8 years or a certain amount of mileage.
For example, I spend around $40 home charging the Model Y per month and I drive it all the time.
I haven't spent a dime on maintenance in the few years I've owned one. The only things I've done are add washer fluid and filters.
The amount of savings long term vs ICE vehicles is the main benefit that offsets major long term repairs, imo.
Also, it's not like the battery is going to just die at the 10 year point, it will just degrade and even at 60-70% it would still be an extremely cheap and functional city car for general driving, you just wouldn't want to go long distances.