Tests on RDNA1 show AMD scales badly to clock but well to CU. Extrapolated to estimate XsX/PS5 differences

Will it? And when will those games come?

Anyone still sold by Sony announcements must realize most games won't come until close to the end of the gen.

If they don't put a date on it don't expect it soon, and if they do expect it will be delayed.
A lot of them will be here by 2022. They are saying PS5 has been the easiest PlayStation to get games up and running on. Also less need for duplicated game objects because of the SSD will even cut down on bugs

We could easily see

Spider-man 2: 2021
Horizon 2: 2021 or 2022
God of War 5: 2022
Demon Souls: 2020 or 2021
Ratchet and Clank: 2020
Wild: 2020
Gran Turismo 7: 2020 - 2022

There will also be a few titles that could be crossgen and are waiting for the announcement

Lost Soul Aside: 2021
Project Awakening: 2024
Granblue Fantasy Relink: 2021 or 2022
Babylon's Fall: 2022
 
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A lot of them will be here by 2022. They are saying PS5 has been the easiest PlayStation to get games up and running on. Also less need for duplicated game objects because of the SSD will even cut down on bugs

We could easily see

Spider-man 2: 2021
Horizon 2: 2021 or 2022
God of War 5: 2022
Demon Souls: 2020 or 2021
Ratchet and Clank: 2020
Wild: 2020
Gran Turismo 7: 2020 - 2022

There will also be a few titles that could be crossgen and are waiting for the announcement like Lost Soul Aside, Project Awakening, Babylon's Fall and Granblue Fantasy Relink
Yay more sequels, the same shit you give MS for doing.

So innovative. Right?

i think MS already has more games announced than this.
 
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Are you still getting PTSD from that era in gaming?

Imagine saying such a dumb thing like the PS5 looking like Vaseline smeared because of a minor 1.87 teraflop difference.
I'm only viewing your posts out of respect, but after the shit you said in the discord while banned from here, I want you to know that you are officially on my ignore.

I wanted to PM this to you but I dint get he chance. #believe all PlayStations.
 
I'm only viewing your posts out of respect, but after the shit you said in the discord while banned from here, I want you to know that you are officially on my ignore.

I wanted to PM this to you but I dint get he chance. #believe all PlayStations.
Discord? What the fuck are you talking about?

Have you been given private messages from someone else?
 
Yay more sequels, the same shit you give MS for doing.

So innovative. Right?

i think MS already has more games announced than this.
Xbox gets crap for sequels because at one point it was mostly all they had and people felt like they were being milked

A la Halo, Gears and Forza

PlayStation tends to have sequels and more new IPs

Spider-man - 1 game
Horizon - 1 game
God of War - rebooted
Wild: New IP
Lost Soul Aside: New IP
Project Awakening: New IP
Granblue Fantasy Relink: New IP
Babylon's Fall: New IP
 
Xbox gets crap for sequels because at one point it was mostly all they had and people felt like they were being milked

A la Halo, Gears and Forza

PlayStation tends to have sequels and more new IPs

Spider-man - 1 game
Horizon - 1 game
God of War - rebooted
Wild: New IP
Lost Soul Aside: New IP
Project Awakening: New IP
Granblue Fantasy Relink: New IP
Babylon's Fall: New IP
I guess that's one way of looking at it. The other is that Uncharted and GOw had almost as many games as Halo. In less time.

Lets look at this year.
March had Ori (Sequel to a new IP this gen)
Bless Unleashed (MMO based off an old IP)
PSO2 (Old IP that people wanted to play)
Bleeding Edge (New IP)

How is that Halo/Gears/Forza?

Im not even going to talk about what's coming for the rest of the year.
 
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But it's not just the GPU that is better on XBoX. CPU is clocked higher, it has 50% more RAM, higher bandwidth, etc. The situation is quite different.

Agreed and the push for 70% higher resolution (stretching their GPU advantage thinner than it should be, trying to also establish the narrative of Xbox always punching above its specs sheet) as he was saying to show off has also bit them in the arse with games dropping more frames more often, even hyper optimised games like DOOM Eternal.
 
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I'm so glad I came in here! I learned that Sony's GPU is RDNA1, the resolution will not improve from PS4 Pro, Microsoft's SSD is actually better than what's in the PS5. I am now informed for next gen. I almost made a huge mistake.
 
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I guess that's one way of looking at it. The other is that Uncharted and GOw had almost as many games as Halo. In less time.

Lets look at this year.
March had Ori (Sequel to a new IP this gen)
Bless Unleashed (MMO based off an old IP)
PSO2 (Old IP that people wanted to play)
Bleeding Edge (New IP)

How is that Halo/Gears/Forza?

Im not even going to talk about what's coming for the rest of the year.
Halo 1, Halo anniversary, Halo 2, Halo MCC, Halo 3, Halo 4, Halo 5, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Halo Wars, Halo Wars 2, Halo Spartan Assault, Halo Infinite

And that's all off the top of my head
 
I guess that's one way of looking at it. The other is that Uncharted and GOw had almost as many games as Halo. In less time.

Lets look at this year.
March had Ori (Sequel to a new IP this gen)
Bless Unleashed (MMO based off an old IP)
PSO2 (Old IP that people wanted to play)
Bleeding Edge (New IP)

How is that Halo/Gears/Forza?

Im not even going to talk about what's coming for the rest of the year.
Btw that's why I used past tense because they are finally coming out with different games but that list (with the exception of Ori) looks bad
 
I'm so glad I came in here! I learned that Sony's GPU is RDNA1, the resolution will not improve from PS4 Pro, Microsoft's SSD is actually better than what's in the PS5. I am now informed for next gen. I almost made a huge mistake.
These genuinely insecure posters are getting out of hand!

What do you expect when their boss looks like this now after getting the Coronavirus:

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Oh you forgot the remakes but included them with Halo.... interesting.
you do realize youre talking to 2 different people right? take off the mcc collection and the other one then.

Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 4, Halo 5, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Halo Wars, Halo Wars 2, Halo Spartan Assault, Halo Infinite
 
I didn't see you do Uncharted against it. shall we?
Uncharted 1, Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, Uncharted 4, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Uncharted Lost Legacy

Halo has double the games lol and like I said PlayStation has many other IPs that have been released during that span
 
There have been a bunch of games all gen, only the ignorant choose to ignore them.
There was still an over reliance on those 3 staple IPs. I'm glad they have more studios now. They should let The Coalition do a new IP, I hope the rumored Perfect Dark is true
 
Uncharted 1, Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, Uncharted 4, Uncharted Golden Abyss, Uncharted Lost Legacy

Halo has double the games lol and like I said PlayStation has many other IPs that have been released during that span
So that would be vs Halo 1-5 and Halo Wars.

7 games vs 7 and one started years earlier.
 
What games? My argument is that Halo is milked, maybe you meant to reply to Kagey K?
I'm doing this for my own sanity. Everything I can find will be listed here.


Halo
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo ODST
Halo Wars
Reach
Anniversarry
4
4 KOTH MTN DEW
Spartan Assault
MCC
Spartan Strike
5
Halo Wars 2
Fire Team Raven
Infinite
Halo Online

Uncharted
2
3
4
Lost Legacy
Golden Abyss
Nathan Drake Collection
Fight For Fortune
Fortune Hunter
 
If the difference is 20-30% in real world rather than 7% ... that's going to be VERY noticeable.

LOL, try reading a GPU specialist in optimising GPU throughput from other site and learn something - something like 2160p vs 2000p as speed and other things make a difference, or 90 % vs 80 % at 4k60. more likely with variable resolution scaling.

Both are bandwidth per CU limited, try dividing bandwidth by CU to feed and come back !

Or we now believing gaming bolt lol


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LOL, try reading a GPU specialist in optimising GPU throughput from other site and learn something - something like 2160p vs 2000p as speed and other things make a difference, or 90 % vs 80 % at 4k60. more likely with variable resolution scaling.

Both are bandwidth per CU limited, try dividing bandwidth by CU to feed and come back !


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reeeee is full of crap though. Won't trust them with any of this. They also had their beloved thommy Fisher posting their and saying how ps5 had 13 tflops lol
 
Try reading it, you may learn something. Or maybe your only interested in warrior crap by the looks of it...



Who are you to say what I can and can not post about? You seem to think it's ok for ponys to shitpost, but that it's not ok to respond to any of it. Your agenda is transparent. Theres NOTHING "In good fun" about console warring. Then I guess, pointing out how PlayStation is the last place brand, is just more good fun. Why not? That's even actually funnier. The fact that PlayStation always come in last place and yet fanboys call them "kings".....the "kings" of losing and always finishing in last place hahaha. All good fun and super hilarious
 
At this point it really shows you don't know how to measure or you are doing it on purpose.

Either way I don't care. I have better things to do with my time.
I've already listed all games for both franchises. Facts are facts 🤷‍♂️
 
I'm doing this for my own sanity. Everything I can find will be listed here.


Halo
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo ODST
Halo Wars
Reach
Anniversarry
4
4 KOTH MTN DEW
Spartan Assault
MCC
Spartan Strike
5
Halo Wars 2
Fire Team Raven
Infinite
Halo Online

Uncharted
2
3
4
Lost Legacy
Golden Abyss
Nathan Drake Collection
Fight For Fortune
Fortune Hunter
You're making my point, though I have never heard of some of those games lol
 
Who are you to say what I can and can not post about? You seem to think it's ok for ponys to shitpost, but that it's not ok to respond to any of it. Your agenda is transparent. Theres NOTHING "In good fun" about console warring. Then I guess, pointing out how PlayStation is the last place brand, is just more good fun. Why not? That's even actually funnier. The fact that PlayStation always come in last place and yet fanboys call them "kings".....the "kings" of losing and always finishing in last place hahaha. All good fun and super hilarious

Ponys ?

Thank you for the intellectual conversation. Your points are salient and stimulating and made my posts worthwhile.
 
Multiplatform titles will look near identical

PS5 will have the best 1st party visuals since they have Naughty Dog, Insomniac Games, Sucker Punch, Santa Monica, Bend and Guerrilla Games

Kojima is probably making a PS5 game right now too
1sr party visuals like this?
 
Actually, scaling with clocks can even be better than 100%, if rasterizer/gemetry engine is your bottleneck.
Also note that in the test below cad is likely TDP limited.
Anyhow, guru3d tests have shown:

RAM (Mhz)Clock (Mhz)Perf
120001600100%
14000 (+16.7%)1700 (+6.2%)107%
14800 (+23,3%)1775 (+10,1%)111%

So, perf gains are higher than clock gains, unfortunately they didn't test it without mem OC-ing.

Btw. The ssd in ps5 snd x series will be QLC? You guys know what that means?
Well, note that there is no need for consoles to keep writing something on that SSD It's about reading it a lot.
 
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How it is gonna be:

- ps5 runs at 1800p what runs at 2100p on xbox
- framerate same
- loadings/pop ins/LoD/object density and OS snappiness 2.5x faster on PS5
OS speed these days is entirely dependant on your internet connection. All that data about achievements/trophies, news, other players needs to be loaded in. You will have a 5.5 GB/s SSD that gets data at a few MB/s.
 
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