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The 2011 Spike VGAs: Dec 10th @ 7:30 PM EST, Streaming Online [Kojima: SO SORRY]

TheExodu5

Banned
Skyrim vs. Dark Souls is a fair fight, and I'd leave it up to personal preference as to which is better.

Personally, as a huge Demon's Souls fan and Oblivion hater, I probably preferred Skyrim more (despite some of its shortcomings).
 
didn't watch, just got back from work but am I correct in saying that was the most bad ass MGS trailer ever? This will be the first version I buy If they can keep that frantic pace throughout the game.


Maybe action games aren't dead after all. In Platinum we trust.

It reminded me of Vanquish and Ninja Gaiden so I found it enjoyable
 

Dresden

Member
Man, how is fourtwozero or browning or whatever working on games? Guy was a shitty CM and he's a total fucking idiot. He probably thought the teabag stunt was clever. Herp derp.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Label me as someone small on the radar but I think Dark Souls or The Witcher 2 would have been better winners, if we're only looking at RPGs.
I was just talking about myself. I liked what I played of Witcher 2, but I feel like Skyrim was a different experience and a bit of a different sort of game. I also didn't play Dark Souls and the only console I own is a Wii so I can't speak for that.
 

Noshino

Member
Because it's a better game.

You can only say that if you:

- Like staring at environments (PC)

and/or

- Like staring at environments (360)


I can't possibly give it a goty nomination after my first fight, ugh.


Funny thing is that the only thing that the only thing I found okay about Bethesda's other media darling, Fallout 3, was the combat system, with the rest of the game being so fucking bland and uninspiring.
 

Derrick01

Banned
No thread for the awful looking Epic game? Any details on it? other than it sounded awful and had zombies? :p

There's a thread for it, Fortnite.

Trailer didn't show anything but Cliffy said something about exploring a world, scavenging for materials and supplies, and then fortifying and improving your base against zombies.

People are implying a mix of minecraft+terraria+tower defense.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
There's a lot more to do in that game than in Dark Souls, and it's more fun to actually play. That's all I'm interested in.

Fun is subjective, but really, what can you do in Skyrim besides walk around, talk to people and fight things? There are no meaningful decisions to make and combat and loot become pointless after you reach god status by level 30.

I've spent 65 hours in Skyrim and will probably spend many more. I love the atmosphere, sound, and visuals in the game, but the core gameplay is really shallow and just not very good.
 
Fun is subjective, but really, what can you do in Skyrim besides walk around, talk to people and fight things? There are no meaningful decisions to make and combat and loot become pointless after you reach god status by level 30.

I've spent 65 hours in Skyrim and will probably spend many more. I love the atmosphere, sound, and visuals in the game, but the core gameplay is really shallow and just not very good.

What can you do in Dark Souls besides fight things? SO BORING
 
MW3 beating BF3 put a smile on my face. Also, I'm glad Skyrim won GotY. My brother and I made a bet in January. I said Skyrim would get GotY from at least 3 places we deemed credible. This was one.
 

Derrick01

Banned
MW3 beating BF3 put a smile on my face. Also, I'm glad Skyrim won GotY. My brother and I made a bet in January. I said Skyrim would get GotY from at least 3 places we deemed credible. This was one.

in before 100 people say this isn't credible.

Noshino said:
Do you seriously want to compare the combat system of Skyrim with that of Dark Souls?

Because it would make Skyrim look worse than it already does on PS3

Since all you do in Dark Souls is fight I would hope they do combat better. Skyrim's got a lot more things to worry about than that, admittedly it needs some improvement but it's not like DS is earth shattering in that regard. I've killed everything so far with a basic block, attack and roll variation.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
What can you do in Dark Souls besides fight things? SO BORING

You can also explore a lovingly hand-crafted world, and make meaningful decisions that impact the game world. Other than sheer scale, there is a lot more to do in Dark Souls than in Skyrim. The various systems, especially the combat, are so much deeper that it's just not fair to compare them.
 
W...wow. So the Modern Warfare-guys wasn't aware of the tea-bagging thing?


No, it pretty obviously was a joke.

People need to lighten the fuck up. It was a joke. There were many more far lamer jokes at this years Oscars.

Overall it wasn't great because it whored itself out to product placement and sponsors like crazy, but in terms of the tone and presentation it was light years better than last year.
 

Noshino

Member
in before 100 people say this isn't credible.

too late dude, we already got a whole thread asking for an actually serious awards show lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=455151

Since all you do in Dark Souls is fight I would hope they do combat better. Skyrim's got a lot more things to worry about than that, admittedly it needs some improvement but it's not like DS is earth shattering in that regard. I've killed everything so far with a basic block, attack and roll variation.

Oh, believe me, I thought the combat system in Dark Souls was disappointing, I was hoping there would be a lot more upgrades after Demons' Souls.

But when you compare the combat system of Skyrim with Dark Souls, hell, or just compare it to Demons' Souls, the gap is quite noticeable.

I mean, sure the scope of the game is great, and like I said, I let a bunch of the bugs fly because of it, but is that also a excuse for the way it runs on the PS3? what about for the janky animations? what about the ancient combat mechanics?
 

Decado

Member
Wow. Platinum games is making MGR? So does that mean no Bayonetta 2 (I assume a Vanquished sequel was never in the cards)?

What's the MGS4 team making?

So besides Naughty Dog's new game, there was Epic's, Transformers and Spiderman (apparently nothing with gameplay :/)?
 

Riposte

Member
There's a lot more to do in that game than in Dark Souls, and it's more fun to actually play. That's all I'm interested in.

Have you've actually played it by now? I've known you only bought it recently despite trashing it forever.


Also this is karmic justice paid back to Kojima for skipping the e3 Konami conference 2010. Thought you could get away, didn't you Hideo?


in before 100 people say this isn't credible.

What makes it credible? The way they pick their nominees and their winner doesn't inspire critical expertise.


Also I don't like the whole "but you do so much in Skyrim" bit. It is true to an extent, but it is mostly mediocre content(talking to NPCs in a RPG manner, crafting useless materials) or not very special(crafting gear to break the game, a lot more walking or horse riding when you can't fast travel). IDK, do people burn hours cutting logs?
 
Just got done watching. I'm a bit confused as I thought there was going to be a second, mind-blowing PS3 exclusive as well as The Last of US premiere?
 

fernoca

Member
Was this posted? :p

(From Ed Boon's Twitter):

One of the best parts of the VGA's is seeing game industry friends. We are planning Gears of Arkham Kombat.

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Wow. Platinum games is making MGR? So does that mean no Bayonetta 2 (I assume a Vanquished sequel was never in the cards)?

What's the MGS4 team making?

So besides Naughty Dog's new game, there was Epic's, Transformers and Spiderman (apparently nothing with gameplay :/)?
what do you think kojima productions is making? MGS5 (6) of course.
 

Kazerei

Banned
* = winnar

Game Of The Year:
Batman: Arkham City
*The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
The Legend Of Zelda: Skyward Sword
Portal 2
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception

Studio Of The Year:
*Bethesda Game Studios
Naughty Dog
Rocksteady
Valve

Best Xbox 360 Game:
*Batman: Arkham City
Forza Motorsport 4
Gears of War 3
Portal 2

Best PS3 Game:
Infamous 2
Killzone 3
LittleBigPlanet 2
*Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception

Best Wii Game:
Disney's Epic Mickey
Kirby's Return To Dream Land
Lost In Shadow
*The Legend Of Zelda: Skyward Sword

Best PC Game:
Battlefield 3
Minecraft
The Witcher 2: Assassins Of Kings
*Portal 2

Best Handheld/Mobile Game:
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
Infinity Blade
*Super Mario 3D Land
Jetpack Joyride

Best Shooter:
Battlefield 3
*Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Gears of War 3
Rage

Best Action Adventure Game:
Assassin's Creed: Revelations
*Batman: Arkham City
The Legend Of Zelda: Skyward Sword
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception

Best RPG:
Dark Souls
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Dragon Age 2
*The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Best Multi-Player:
Battlefield 3
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Gears Of War 3
*Portal 2

Best Individual Sports Game:
*Fight Night Champion
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 12: The Masters
Top Spin 4
Virtua Tennis 4

Best Team Sports Game:
FIFA Soccer 12
*NBA 2K12
NHL 12
MLB '11: The Show

Best Driving Game:
Dirt 3
Driver: San Francisco
*Forza Motorsport 4
Need For Speed: The Run

Best Fighting Game:
The King Of Fighters XIII
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3
*Mortal Kombat
WWE All Stars

Best Motion Game:
Child Of Eden
Dance Central 2
*The Legend Of Zelda: Skyward Sword
The Gunstringer

Best Independent Game:
Bastion
*Minecraft
Superbrothers: Sword And Sworcery EP
The Binding Of Isaac

Best Adapted Video Game:
Back To The Future: The Game
*Batman: Arkham City
Captain America: Super Soldier
Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars

Best Song In A Game:
*Bastion: "Build that Wall (Zia’s Theme)” by Darren Korb
Portal 2: "Exile Vilify" by The National
Dragon Age 2: “I'm Not Calling You a Liar” by Florence + the Machine
Bastion: "Setting Sail, Coming Home (End Theme)" by Darren Korb

Best Original Score:
*Bastion
Batman: Arkham City
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Portal 2

Best Graphics:
Batman: Arkham City
L.A. Noire
Rage
*Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception

Best Performance By A Human Male:
Portal 2: J.K. Simmons as Cave Johnson
Batman: Arkham City: Mark Hamill as The Joker
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception: Nolan North as Nathan Drake
*Portal 2: Stephen Merchant as Wheatley

Best Performance By A Human Female:
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception: Claudia Black as Chloe Frazer
*Portal 2: Ellen McLain as GLaDOS
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception: Emily Rose as Elena Fisher
Batman: Arkham City: Tara Strong as Harley Quinn

Best Downloadable Game:
*Bastion
Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet
Stacking
Trenched

Best DLC:
Fallout: New Vegas - Old World Blues
Mass Effect 2: Arrival
Mortal Kombat: Freddy Krueger
*Portal 2 Peer Review
 

Riposte

Member
The real shame is that Nintendo had to be a Japanese company and ruin what would have been a flawless celebration of the West. You'd think with Mortal Combat being the best one player fighting game JAPAN WOULD GET IT AND STOP MAKING VIDEOGAMES. Can someone get me a Adam Jensen avatar?
 

Sigfodr

Member
This is a horrendous representation of the community we belong to. I am ashamed that this is possibly the most public facet of this industry (besides the media itself). This show is irredeemable with it's ten second time limit on acceptance speeches, the hour of crap followed by eight awards in one minute, the rampant sexism and homophobia. Even the celebrities consider this a joke. Name one Academy Award presenter that joked, "I'm paid to be here."
 

KingK

Member
L O Fucking L at Bethesda winning studio of the year considering they're disaster on the PS3. Should have gone to Valve or Naughty Dog. The rest of the winners aren't really anything to complain about though.
 
didn't watch, just got back from work but am I correct in saying that was the most bad/ass MGS trailer ever? This will be the first version I buy If they can keep that frantic pace throughout the game.


Maybe action games aren't dead after all. In Platinum we trust.

fixed.

So depressed that MGS has become this vile junk (gameplay wise) and yes even cutscene/style. Oh well I'm sure there will be at least 3 more traditional mgs games in my lifetime.
 

Riposte

Member
fixed.

So depressed that MGS has become this vile junk (gameplay wise) and yes even cutscene/style. Oh well I'm sure there will be at least 3 more traditional mgs games in my lifetime.

You can say what you want about MGS games, but their trailers have always rocked. "ACTIVATE IT" is better than anything in that trailer.
 
I watched this, hoping it would be better than previous years. Just like previous years, this was a complete failure.

If they don't give out at least one award between each commercial break, it's a failure. And I mean actually giving out an award, not just briefly mentioning who won [insert award here]. They're so caught up on celebrity they fail to achieve what they claim to, awarding the best games.

This isn't for gamers.
 
L O Fucking L at Bethesda winning studio of the year considering they're disaster on the PS3. Should have gone to Valve or Naughty Dog. The rest of the winners aren't really anything to complain about though.

Valve really should have gotten that.

in 2011 they had

Portal 2. + FREE dlc.

TF2 went Free to Play without ruining the entire game.

Dota 2 and CS Go reveals.

and the mother fucking never ending gaming goodness that is STEAM.


Bethesda made a slightly broken game on 2 platforms and a completely broken game on 1.

there first post release patch broke more things then it fixed and they are suing the Minecraft guy.

but thats just my opinion.
 
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