I don't think he ever moves past it. Both Emma's and Ryan's characters' compromises are a detour on their way to meeting their life's true ambitions.
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The 89th Academy Awards |OT| La La Land up 3-1, they got this
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I don't think he ever moves past it. Both Emma's and Ryan's characters' compromises are a detour on their way to meeting their life's true ambitions.
Bobby Roberts
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No, that's not what I'm saying:
The "him" in that last quote is referencing Horowitz, the guy who clarified everything for everyone and made sure the Moonlight crew got their awards.
Ain't even gonna address anything? Just gonna take your ball and go home? Bye Felicia
At least some Gibson lovers own up to they shit, you...couldn't even do that smh
Via Purifico
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This, not to mention everyone else was taking their sweet ass time while he wanted the Moonlight cast to get some time to shine.
Try and keep in mind that you're literally arguing with a child.
Roland_Gunner
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In addition to handling the Oscar transition like a champ, Horowitz is a pretty funny dude. I would be pounding an entire bottle of Jack in his shoes right now.
Ninja Scooter
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This is the dumbest kind of take we are going to have to deal with for the next few days. The Oscars don't need this kind of attention ( in fact, the people behind the awards probably feel they are way above this kind of attention and are horrified).
Awwww, I'm hurt.
If only people would try and keep in mind when they support pieces of shit scumbags and wouldn't get mad when people call said scumbag out
There's zero excuse here. The guy on the right KNEW. Meh. Feel really bad for the first guy though.
It wasn't deliberate for reasons explained above, it's totally acceptable imo, too much shit was still going on and so fast. Of course if you take that clip out of context it will simply look like someone snatching the card off rudely. Context is very important in this case.
Mike Works
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Look at everyone out for blood looking for people to blame and criticize. The first producer snatched the card from the hands of Warren Beatty too meanly. The third producer was a dick for the acceptance speech and subsequent announcing that they lost. Beatty is an idiot for not saying there was a mistake, Dunnaway is a moron for not bothering to read the card for more than a second. The stagehands need to get fired. The two people with briefcases didn't do their job. Look at Ryan Gosling's body posture in this picture. Look at Damien Chazelle's unhappy face. I can't believe the Academy took away what should've been a great moment for Moonlight.
Human beings make mistakes. It's drama, and it's unfortunate, and there's comedy to be had (and already being had with it), but Christ, it was a mistake. Quit being so fucking critical of whoever you want to go all in on. Learn some fucking compassion and understand that the moment was filled to the brim with mixed emotions and confusion.
Be better.
Human beings make mistakes. It's drama, and it's unfortunate, and there's comedy to be had (and already being had with it), but Christ, it was a mistake. Quit being so fucking critical of whoever you want to go all in on. Learn some fucking compassion and understand that the moment was filled to the brim with mixed emotions and confusion.
Be better.
EatinOlives
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Because in your original post you were very clearly suggesting he was doing it to hog the spotlight for one more minute despite knowing he didn't win.
PushTheButtonMax
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Are you talking about the concert scene? Stone's character reacts that way because she sees Gosling's character going along with a musical style that he doesn't truly love. The film isn't making a statement on who is "right".
Trigonometrize.
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He was set on setting things right as fast as possible, especially with all of the confusion from the crowd and the other producer elongating the facade. Pretty easy to do something like that, asshole or not.
15 out of 22. Not too bad. Why I did not pick the Salesman is beyond me.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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I think there's going to be a lot of nastiness about Moonlight's BP win, and unfortunately exacerbated by the massive cock up that happened. I don't believe there was any political factor going on with Moonlight winning, though
In terms of precursors, Moonlight winning might be an even bigger shock than Crash; this is the first time since 2001 that neither SAG nor DGA predicted the BP winner, and I'm sure there's other trends that have been bucked tonight. But the difference is that the four of the five last ceremonies have had a BP/BD split (admittedly, Argo was a special case), and that might just be the new reality of the Academy now. The voters, IMO, are more open to awarding different films now for the two biggest honors, and that sort of plays out when you look at the winners; Gravity, The Revenant, and La La Land were all far more showy and director oriented productions than 12 years, Spotlight, or Moonlight. It's pretty interesting if this ends up playing out for the foreseeable future and adds some more intrigue to the results.
In terms of precursors, Moonlight winning might be an even bigger shock than Crash; this is the first time since 2001 that neither SAG nor DGA predicted the BP winner, and I'm sure there's other trends that have been bucked tonight. But the difference is that the four of the five last ceremonies have had a BP/BD split (admittedly, Argo was a special case), and that might just be the new reality of the Academy now. The voters, IMO, are more open to awarding different films now for the two biggest honors, and that sort of plays out when you look at the winners; Gravity, The Revenant, and La La Land were all far more showy and director oriented productions than 12 years, Spotlight, or Moonlight. It's pretty interesting if this ends up playing out for the foreseeable future and adds some more intrigue to the results.
ColdDeckEd
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So being embarrassed in front of not only your peers but in front of the whole world, that's not grounds for being even a tiny bit salty?
You are being wayyyyy to critical.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
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I like his movies, yes, i don't like that he' a racist piece of shit.. How old are you seriously?
"Take my ball" Who the fuck is "Felicia" I feel like I am arguing with a bratty teenager right now, if being an adult and walking away is me being "a Felicia, and taking my ball and going home" so be it child, bye.
polyh3dron
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Multiple bald ones, at that.
In hindsight, yes. But in the heat of the moment he probably wanted to make people understand as fast as possible
neurosisxeno
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Yea I have to agree. I took it as her not being horrified, but upset that he compromised so much on what he believed in. Also, she only learned to love Jazz through Seb, so it's kind of her being confused since he was playing something very different than all the music he loved.
What? Are you kidding? He clearly meant he watched him as he grew up. Do you have a clip? I don't remember him saying that he taught him how to act
You won the best movie award. Congrats
(2 minutes later)
Hey, look, you didn't won the best movie award and your dream is dead, so now you're gonna have to say this to millions of people around the world and leave the stage. Thanks
It's understandable that he's a little angry
ginger ninja
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I can already see the opinion pieces saying "indicative of larger diversity problem within the academy".
Bobby Roberts
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And when someone told me maybe that he at least tried to wave it off, I said they were right. He did. He tried to wave it off, because he knew he didn't actually win the award he was holding.
But he still grabbed the mic anyway, though.
It was a weird, crazy, unprecedented situation.
Trigonometrize.
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There are at least five excuses.
He said this?! Holy fuck. Where the fuck have I been?
yea you can clearly see on the guys face and from the words he clearly uses to describe that it goes to the Moonlight crew that he is pissed that Moonlight got robbed of that moment.
He wants to make it right as fast and clearly as possible.. warren was grazing on grass and TV clock was ticking down. Hell half the viewers probably turned off their TVs when they said "LaLa Land".
How people can not differentiate between someone wanting to right a wrong and being a rude Dick amazes me.
My entire issue runs with the fact you got upset at people being upset at Mel. Why? When people are reasonably upset at the fucker for being a piece of shit.
No clue. He said it 7 years ago. Still no apology. At all. Just a "Eh it happens to the best of us right?" Basically
PsihoPerihelion
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GUYS?
I think it really just boils down to the modern academy voters awarding directing along more technical lines recently rather than a "direction of actors and story" line.
The Salesman was missing from the list I copy/pasted from The Oscar's official site for some reason so I was unaware of its presence until they announced it during the show. Edited it in late.
old manatee
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It's so intense in gif form. like, get your crazy elbow out of Warren Beatty's face, dawg. He blew the lid off of Watergate. Or Robert Redford did. The 70's were a while ago.
cubicle47b
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I have no problem with the second producer. He filled time while the people behind him confirmed what was going on.
He doesn't even look angry that he didn't win. He looked really angry that everyone was put in this situation to begin with, which is truly absurd, and no one on the production end was taking responsibility to own the moment and fix it. They were just left on the stage with no direction. It's nonsense. He did what he had to do. He was trying the make the best of the situation without adding further embarrassment for the real winners as well as his own team.
Fantastical
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I just find the negative responses about Horowitz interesting. Like human beings are supposed to be these perfect machines in all situations. Yes it was rude but there is a context here that I think makes it excusable. I do hope he apologized after it but I would understand completely.
DontBeThatGuy
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He smacked her in the mouth too. Well, allegedly.
To be fair, that guy just has an obviously silly but fairly anodyne conspiracy theory.
A movie about gay negroes just upset a nearly all white movie in the most bizarre and unprecedented fashion. I shudder to think how Trumpland's army of fragile, racist white people will react to this.
EatinOlives
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Then just say you're walking back your original allegation instead of talking about "clarifying" and "just LOOKS shady" instead.
Via Purifico
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Lmao this is so accurate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_qMJSPtqY
https://newsone.com/587465/top-13-most-horrible-things-mel-gibson-has-ever-said/
He also talks about "wetbacks."
This is the dude that Johnny Cage In The Shower is a fan of.
There's no need to "fill time". The only need is for them to get the fuck off the stage as quickly as possible so that the Moonlight people have their moment to shine.
Instead, that second producers goes up knowing they lost and thanks his family for five minutes and then says "we lost btw"
Watching the vid it's even clearer. When he says moonlight won, the crowd and everyone clearly is barely registering it. He grabs the card to ensure everyone knows he's not fucking with anyone
Ninja Scooter
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Bugsy is underrated.
I just noticed there was a stage hand or something who also tried to snatch it from Beatty
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