triplestation
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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 |SPOILER THREAD| Enter Marcs Webb
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WrenchNinja
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No whiplash is lame
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
So, is it a post-credits cutscene with the X-Men a thing or not?
Razgriz-Specter
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That would be awesome.
Razgriz-Specter
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No fun allowed.
Her head definitely hits the ground, but it's not like her neck wouldn't have snapped.
I'm seriously considering seeing it again with another set of friends on Saturday, because I really want to hear their fresh thoughts on the film.
Dabookerman
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An improvement on the last one, but still pretty dull. This has the same problem of unconvincing villains with underdeveloped motivations.
For all the flash, there's only one great image in the whole two and a half hours: the strand of web forming a hand reaching out to Gwen. That was beautiful.
For all the flash, there's only one great image in the whole two and a half hours: the strand of web forming a hand reaching out to Gwen. That was beautiful.
Just got home from seeing ASM2, great movie and some good world building that definitely sets up the Sinister Six. I think Harry states something like "I want to keep the team small" and was half expecting him to say "six" but nope.
As for the big one, Gwen's death... Pretty ballsy move to go through with it. That's two people in that family he's now had a part in their deaths. I honestly thought when the webbing hit Gwen on the belly it'd be your typical last minute save. Nope, gotta have that head snap back and just to make sure I'm certain the back of her head hit the floor too. I wonder if we'll see a Gwen ghost haunting Spidey like Captain Stacy was in this one. The other thing I liked is Aunt May always hinting that she definitely knows Peter is Spider-Man, but she's definitely keeping her cards close to her chest.
One thing that I thought was a nice touch was how the Richard Parker video and scenes tied back into ASM1. I thought it was great to do without having to do a whole recap for people, very Back To The Future Part II-ish. I wonder if the cut scenes from ASM1 would have helped this movie more or hinder it, I did feel that ASM2 had the right amount of mystery whereas ASM1 felt like it was a bit more butchered. Overall, enjoyed it and cannot wait to see what they do with the Spidey Cinematic Universe. I think for me it sits just underneath The Winter Soldier for superhero movie of 2014.
As for the big one, Gwen's death... Pretty ballsy move to go through with it. That's two people in that family he's now had a part in their deaths. I honestly thought when the webbing hit Gwen on the belly it'd be your typical last minute save. Nope, gotta have that head snap back and just to make sure I'm certain the back of her head hit the floor too. I wonder if we'll see a Gwen ghost haunting Spidey like Captain Stacy was in this one. The other thing I liked is Aunt May always hinting that she definitely knows Peter is Spider-Man, but she's definitely keeping her cards close to her chest.
One thing that I thought was a nice touch was how the Richard Parker video and scenes tied back into ASM1. I thought it was great to do without having to do a whole recap for people, very Back To The Future Part II-ish. I wonder if the cut scenes from ASM1 would have helped this movie more or hinder it, I did feel that ASM2 had the right amount of mystery whereas ASM1 felt like it was a bit more butchered. Overall, enjoyed it and cannot wait to see what they do with the Spidey Cinematic Universe. I think for me it sits just underneath The Winter Soldier for superhero movie of 2014.
Dabookerman
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Once again. These reboots make me sorely miss Danny Elfman. Felt the music was distractingly bad at times. And I'm not even talking about the dub step!
zomgbbqftw
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Really enjoyed it. Dane Dehaan is amazing. They tried to cram too much in though. Would have liked electro to get the whole movie and for them to kill off Gwen in the final movie of the trilogy with the whole thing devoted to the Goblin.
Best comic book movie for a long time for me. Stands up there with Iron Man and TDK IMO. Can't wait to see the next one. I hope they get a good director for the other Spidey movies as well. Webb dealt with the emotional side so much better than Raimi and managed to be less heavy handed than in ASM.
IMO, ASM2 > SM2 > ASM >>> SM >>>>>>>>>>> SM3.
Best comic book movie for a long time for me. Stands up there with Iron Man and TDK IMO. Can't wait to see the next one. I hope they get a good director for the other Spidey movies as well. Webb dealt with the emotional side so much better than Raimi and managed to be less heavy handed than in ASM.
IMO, ASM2 > SM2 > ASM >>> SM >>>>>>>>>>> SM3.
Razgriz-Specter
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I don't get why Sony and WB want to avoid them so much,
wouldn't having 1 extremely recognizable theme with many different interpretations be better than some just generic music people will forget 5 minutes after walking out of the theater.
Actually, she is a natural blonde.
WadiumArcadium
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I loved it. Gwen's death was brilliantly done. They couldn't have done it any better. There was a lot packed in but I felt most of it worked. Garfield was brilliant again, I find it hard to understand how anyone could still say Maguire's superior.
They really should have had Peter grieve a little more. Yes they did the whole spring,summer,autumn,winter montage to show the time lapse but that was too quick. Hopefully in the next film we see more of a emotionally troubled Peter trying to come to terms of what has happened and that he still hasn't recovered yet from the ordeal.
WadiumArcadium
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Something akin to Spider-Man Blue at the start would be nice. I don't think it will be forgotten for ASM3. The end just showed he was going to start trying to move on.
Nightengale
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At the rate that Pete is going, it seems like this Spidey universe is just going to wreck him.
- Uncle Ben
- contribution to the whole Lizard mess
- Richard Parker stuff
- Gwen's dad
- Gwen
- fallout with Harry
Add that with symbiote storyline and potentially the Clone Saga ( hard to imagine the expansion of the Spidey Universe without Ben Reily ), it's like the pendulum of grieve.
Sorcerer
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Supposedly Stone is under contract for one more movie.
I guess that probably means Peter will have flashbacks in the next movie.
They didn't have the balls to go through with a legitimately sad, downbeat ending. The first Raimi Spider-Man was darker. The filmmaking here was all about softening the blow for the audience. Can't have this not feel like another identikit summer blockbuster!
WadiumArcadium
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I thought it was still a downbeat ending, it just showed that Peter knew he had to keep being Spider-Man. I wouldn't say Raimi's version was darker either, more of a brie colour.
Its not happening publically, but there's gotta be something going on! #believe
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Pai Pai Master
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I was actually really intrigued when I first heard about this. If there's anything I think could make Fox and Sony a legitimate contender for awesome Marvel stories it'd be merging the X-Men and Spider-Man movie universes. They already have plenty of great stories together and Wolverine and Spidey on the big screen together would be a MASSIVE draw, bigger than The Avengers. And I could live with either properties staying out of the MCU if they did team-ups.
Shame it's just a marketing/contract thing.
WadiumArcadium
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They showed that bit so much I almost expected them not to do it.
Glass Rebel
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I kinda expected Gwen to die but not in such a cut and dry way. The Rhino part felt really tacked on though.
she's actually a natural blonde. she dyes it red
It's potentially big. The whole "Oscorp has been following you", "Why?", "Isn't that the question of the day" scene never happens. There's no hint that oscorp is following or has any interest in Peter. Harry puts the pieces together in the final fight when he sees Gwen with spidey.
Weird, UK here and we got it.
Basically there's an Army tent with 4-5 mutants in it. An army guy comes in saying they're to be transferred. Another guy argues with 'him' who turns into mystique. Brief scrap with mystique and the mutants kicking ass. One of them says to her "Where's Erik?" And she replies "I work alone now".
That's the gist, although I'm sure the exact details are fuzzy.
Thanks, I caught up with the context on how Fox managed to leverage DOFP material into this (not sure if that has ever happened before). Its going to be interesting to see what the peeps in the US will think about it. As mid/post credit teasers go, that's not what I would be expecting.
Yes, this happens:
Otto wouldn't have let this shit happen.
Dont use spoiler tags unless you want people to loathe you.
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I have my deepest respect for Sony that they really did this. What a great moment, loved it as she died.
Yes, I know this sounds at least strange, but The Night as Gwen Stacy Died is one of the most important Spider-Man Storys of all time and for me as a true Spider-Man Fanboy, it was a big dream to finally experience this in a live action movie on a big screen.
Still, I think the Reboots remain to be extreme inferior to the Raimi Movies and I continue to say, that only Marvel Studios would do something really good and worthy with Spider-Man.
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Justice_dp
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I was not spoiled and I thought it would be too much for Peter at that moment. It was like - they can't dump that much garbage at him. I thought that Harry will die and Norman will do the revenge killing early in the next one.
It was a terrible sight to see. It took balls to go into this direction. And the "death" itself was so well done. No last words. No grandstanding or "it is not your fault", it was haunting. Especially since the character beats between Harry, Peter and Gwen were great (despite the movie not featuring nearly enough of them to sell this idea to "non fans").
Uhm no. It is a great update and despite some camp, the Raimi movies were too much in love with the Bronze Age for their own good. Nearly every villian got redemption, the idea of the atomic family is Peter's big motivation etc. ... Despite this - SM2 is still a great movie (SM1 to some extent too). But just like the Burton Batman movies, they are their own thing. One that stays far from their source material.
I think, the point that we didnt saw Norman really died on screen will be important in the future.
Maybe the stop of the heart beat was the begin of another goblin transformation or something like this. But its rather possible that he is really dead and they just wanted to be more subtle about this. I dunno.
I posted this in the OT but this is easily the best Spider-man imo. Maguire was bloody awful in the role. Garfield absoloutly nails it. This film basically encapsulates everything I wanted from a Spider-man film when I was growing up reading the comics. They handled Gwens death superbly and I thought they did a really good job with Harry/Goblin. Electro could have been a bit better though but I still thought he was menacing when he was whining about people forgetting his name.
Gwen and peters relationship is the best bit of the film. It helps that they're a couple in real life, the chemistry between them sends sparks flying. Gwen is also the most three dimensional woman in a superhero film yet. Shes has real wants and desires and does'nt hang around waiting to be saved. she gets involved in the action and can fend for herself.
The action was also spectacular. I never thought I would see Spider-man move like I imagine he does in the comics but they knock it out of the park in this film. So many good sequences. Again this tops Spider-man 2 for me
Gwen and peters relationship is the best bit of the film. It helps that they're a couple in real life, the chemistry between them sends sparks flying. Gwen is also the most three dimensional woman in a superhero film yet. Shes has real wants and desires and does'nt hang around waiting to be saved. she gets involved in the action and can fend for herself.
The action was also spectacular. I never thought I would see Spider-man move like I imagine he does in the comics but they knock it out of the park in this film. So many good sequences. Again this tops Spider-man 2 for me
For the record, I have never really liked any permutation of Spiderman movie universe. None of them are close to perfection. Raimi's trilogy had awful casting for the leads and great casting for supporting. The storyline was too melodramatic and Spidey/Peter was too different from the comic version.
The Amazing reboot has the right lead in Garfield and Stone but really awful supporting cast, especially Aunt May (Sally Field). Spidey is a lot more accurate to its comic root but the villains look quite ridiculous at times. But then again they weren't better in Raimi trilogies either.
Having said that, ASM2 is probably the closest film adaptation of the comic books. Garfield is really on-point here. A lot of his body language, mannerism, and speech patterns are exactly how I imagine Spidey and Peter would be as live action character.
His chemistry with Emma Stone is also the reason why I completely buy their relationship. Cloying as they may seem to some of the ever-cynical portion of GAF-fers, I find it endearing and sweet and most importantly, I believe that there is genuine love between the two of them, which make the ending all the more poignant.
I still can't believe how perfect Gwen's eventual death turned out to be. No goodbyes, no last word. It was just sudden and over in seconds like how some accidents tend to be IRL. To those who complained that Peter was being a brat for not respecting Stacey's last wish, that is also addressed here.
In essence, I feel that ASM1 and ASM2 are 2-parters that work well when seen in tandem. There are too many plot threads from the first one that didn't and couldn't be addressed until the seccond one. I also feel a bit weirded out how mutation plays a large part of the formation/origin of some of the villains in this reboot since Sony doesn't have right to any X-Men property.
Which makes the mid-credit scene of Mystique freeing Havok, Toad, and a few other mutants from Stryker feel like an unrealized possibility. I can't blame people for thinking there might be crossover possibilities even though the scene is just a random advert for X-Men: Days of Future Past.
The Amazing reboot has the right lead in Garfield and Stone but really awful supporting cast, especially Aunt May (Sally Field). Spidey is a lot more accurate to its comic root but the villains look quite ridiculous at times. But then again they weren't better in Raimi trilogies either.
Having said that, ASM2 is probably the closest film adaptation of the comic books. Garfield is really on-point here. A lot of his body language, mannerism, and speech patterns are exactly how I imagine Spidey and Peter would be as live action character.
His chemistry with Emma Stone is also the reason why I completely buy their relationship. Cloying as they may seem to some of the ever-cynical portion of GAF-fers, I find it endearing and sweet and most importantly, I believe that there is genuine love between the two of them, which make the ending all the more poignant.
I still can't believe how perfect Gwen's eventual death turned out to be. No goodbyes, no last word. It was just sudden and over in seconds like how some accidents tend to be IRL. To those who complained that Peter was being a brat for not respecting Stacey's last wish, that is also addressed here.
In essence, I feel that ASM1 and ASM2 are 2-parters that work well when seen in tandem. There are too many plot threads from the first one that didn't and couldn't be addressed until the seccond one. I also feel a bit weirded out how mutation plays a large part of the formation/origin of some of the villains in this reboot since Sony doesn't have right to any X-Men property.
Which makes the mid-credit scene of Mystique freeing Havok, Toad, and a few other mutants from Stryker feel like an unrealized possibility. I can't blame people for thinking there might be crossover possibilities even though the scene is just a random advert for X-Men: Days of Future Past.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Electro was really weird as a villain and everything about him was so over the top.
Goblin was introduced a bit late.
I felt a little bored of the subplot.
Other than that I really enjoyed this film! Andrew Garfield is perfect as both Peter and Spidey that it just blows Maguire out of the water for me. The chemistry between him and Gwen was great, seeing as they're a real couple and usually I don't enjoy romance too much. Everything about Spidey was just...amazing!
Electro was really weird as a villain and everything about him was so over the top.
Goblin was introduced a bit late.
I felt a little bored of the subplot.
Other than that I really enjoyed this film! Andrew Garfield is perfect as both Peter and Spidey that it just blows Maguire out of the water for me. The chemistry between him and Gwen was great, seeing as they're a real couple and usually I don't enjoy romance too much. Everything about Spidey was just...amazing!
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