The Amazing Spider-Man |OT|
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SilentProtagonist
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It's funny you're bringing up this topic in regards to the Hulk, because they had the same guy play General Thunderbolt Ross in the Ang Lee Hulk film and the Marvel one (both set in different universes/a reboot).
True, I don't want another damsel in distress either.
I just would love (maybe only in the third movie) a sort of 'false alarm' type of situation where we (us comic people) think she's going to get offed, but doesn't. And then twenty minutes later does. :d
[edit] You mind fucked me, SP. :lol Shows how well I remember those lil shits.
Sam Elliot played Ross in Ang Lee's Hulk, William Hurt played him in Incredible.
blast0rama
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I didn't know that Sam Elliott and William Hurt were the same man!
EDIT: I guess it was all aboard the correction train...
SilentProtagonist
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Really? Oh wow, shows you how much I payed attention to TIH lol
I thought I remember them talking about him being the only returning actor from the Ang Lee one, but I guess that must've been looong time ago during production.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Just pull a James Bond. It worked for M.
Raimi's JJJ is amazing. Especially in the extended Spider-man 2.1 cut.
Raimi's JJJ is amazing. Especially in the extended Spider-man 2.1 cut.
SilentProtagonist
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If it's handled anything like "With great power comes great responsibility" in this film then MJ's gonna say something like "Look Tiger, sometimes you have to face things. You're luck hasn't run out, you've really hit the big pot of gold this time!"
Don't want to remind people too much of those Raimi movies! ... or the comics.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Just bought my ticket for a 7:35pm IMAX showing.
My expectations are low. I'm not crazy about another reboot, but I enjoyed the old trilogy enough to give ASM a shot. I don't expect ASM to be anywhere near as good as The Avengers or Nolan's Batman, though.
I'll post my review later tonight.
My expectations are low. I'm not crazy about another reboot, but I enjoyed the old trilogy enough to give ASM a shot. I don't expect ASM to be anywhere near as good as The Avengers or Nolan's Batman, though.
I'll post my review later tonight.
brandonh83
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Why does it need to be so on the nose? The movie got the point across just fine. I don't care much for that line anyway, it's almost like Ben predicted that Peter would run into "great power" or something. I don't see why it's so super important to have that line in there.
I know it "defines Spiderman" but again I felt the same point got across anyway. People were talking about how Peter's actions actually causes some of the bad things to happen in the story, and he seemed to take Ben's advice when he tells Gwen "I have to stop him because I created him."
We see him acknowledging things being his responsibilities and he takes action.
EliteArtist
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Which begs the question: What teenager goes into a store and buys chocolate milk? I can't suspend my disbelief anymore. The movie is garbage.
Pagusas
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Hey man, chocolate milk is great. Everyone loves chocolate milk.
The part that really killed my suspension of disbelief was when Peter used Bing.
brandonh83
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EliteArtist
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Okay Ill give you that one. That had me and my friends in a riot. Any credibility of Peter being smart was destroyed then and there.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Haha, Bing.
zomgbbqftw
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Yeah, that took me out of the movie a bit, I know it sounds weird but that was one of the most obvious pieces of product placement I have seen in a while (including the Sony Ericsson phone and the Vaio laptop), no one has Bing as their homepage or default search provider.
A while ago there were tons of stories about chocolate milk being an ideal, cheap post workout beverage.
More likely, Sony is trying to promote chocolate milk for its own nefarious purposes (MIB 3 also has Will Smith desperately seeking chocolate milk).
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Well at least we know Bing is a great search engine to find out shit specifically about Pete's parents.
Bing: Kind of blatantly creepy about your personal life!
Bing: Kind of blatantly creepy about your personal life!
brandonh83
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looks like you guys have effectively run out of criticism steam.
what's next, them having spaghetti for dinner right after Flash was rubbing a kid's face in spaghetti being too much of a contrivance? I can only suspend my disbelief so far.
what's next, them having spaghetti for dinner right after Flash was rubbing a kid's face in spaghetti being too much of a contrivance? I can only suspend my disbelief so far.
LMAO...
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Which was odd because Peter used an Android-based Xperia the whole movie... should have used Google.
zomgbbqftw
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Nah, I liked ASM, it was fun and well acted. Bing just seems very forced to me and a very obvious case of product placement. No self-respecting geek uses Bing (well except for video search...).
brandonh83
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Sure. I just... I don't know. My mind isn't on stuff like this when I'm watching a movie. Apparently I should be very thankful for that.
SilentProtagonist
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It may have come across as contrived but it would've gotten the point across clearly. Instead we get Ben kinda rambling and trying to get the words out (which should the pretty important since it's Uncle Ben's last speech given to Peter). Plus I mean.... It's a classic line that defines the characters origin. This is probably the only Spider-Man origin story I can think of that skirts that phrase (or a slightly different version of it).
A little off the current topic:
Did anyone actually dress up as Spider-Man and get that free burger or whatever on the 4th?
Would one even be willing to admit such a thing? :lol
brandonh83
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Like I said I felt the film clearly got the point across. It was just short of flat out having the line. Instead of having a character say it we actually see the message play out through the events in the story. But yeah, in the long run I didn't really care about the line so I suppose I can see why you were upset about it and I ain't got no qualms with that, just a personal opinion.
SilentProtagonist
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Dude I would've, if I had the costume.
I'd make a google map of all of the Carls Jrs(?). lol
That's actually something else. The way the movie presented Peter, I didn't really get the feeling he was smart and nerdy, just a quiet loner. He only really came off as a bit nerdy when he opened his mouth around Gwen and started stumbling over his words... but that's not unexpected from any average high school kids talking to girls they like.
Other than that, he just seemed too... cool. Even before he became Spider-Man. The way he dressed, his mannerisms, his skateboard. He just came off as an aloof slacker.
I'm not saying he needed a pocket protector and all that kind of nonsense, but I don't think he should've been quite as cool from the start.
Also, his dad's glasses. This bugged me and I just remembered it. He finds his dad's glasses, takes out his contacts, and puts them on, and they just happen to be the right prescription.
Maybe originally he was his father's clone, but that origin story didn't fly so well with test audiences. Also, Peter looking just like his father and all that.
Anton Sugar
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I think Peter himself was cloned, because there was clearly nerdy Peter, slacker Peter, and wise-cracking Spider-Man Peter.
Did he make any actual jokes as Peter Parker?
Did he make any actual jokes as Peter Parker?
layzie1989
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old and new harry osborn. come on let's get the petition started!!
Good Job Bob
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Donald Glover for Harry Osborn.
But even if he was genetically identical to his father, eyes degrade over time. Say Richard was at least 30 when he left (and that's being generous, since his hair was pretty grey) and Peter was 17 in the movie. I know if I'd tried on my current glasses 13 years ago, I wouldn't have been able to see shit.
Maybe his eyes became prematurely worse from wearing his father's glasses.
There was an air of arrogance about him as Peter that just didn't work for me. I'm not asking for the character to be a complete fucking loser, but he's certainly not supposed to be passing off like a James Dean wannabe. It's especially funny too, because Garfield is so adorably earnest & sweet IRL and far more like Peter Parker than this film would have me believe.
Do you actually wear glasses? Your vision stabilizes around 19-21 iirc, but even then your eyesight might not even change from 17 to 30. Not everyone's eyesight just naturally degrades to such a drastic level.
Jesus christ though, we keep finding little things to nit about. I swear there's a millions things like this in SM1, esp in SM2, but they didn't ruin the movie for most people. :lol
This is exactly what spidey is early on. I don't get a sense that as Peter he was arrogant, though. The Pete character persona is different from SM's, as it should be (and always has been). In the beginning of him gaining powers, anyway.
rollingstart
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There is a storyline from the 90s cartoon where Chameleon (or Mysterio) framed Spider-Man by using his own webbing and costume. I mean, if the webbing is that easy to get a hold of...In the cartoon, Spider-Man explains that his webbing degrades after a few hours.
If Peter reverse engineered the webbing to make it his own, the line he tells the car thief would've made sense. It's another part of the movie that contradicts itself. He says he developed the webbing himself? he stole it wholesale from Oscorp!
Yes, but maybe his prescription was the same for decades and his poor eyesight was completely attributable to genetics rather than by anything in the environment.
It's not realistic, but then again they were putting possibly undue emphasis on the whole genetics thing with Parker's parents' research.
I googled decay rate algorithm just for the hell of it.
Did you seriously just accuse me of lying about wearing glasses?
Like, really?
You think I'd lie about wearing glasses to try to make up some flaw in a movie?
I'm 24. If I'd tried on my current glasses at 17, I wouldn't have been able to see very well. If I were to try on either of my parents' glasses now, I wouldn't be able to see very well.
And god damn, stop complaining every time someone mentions some sort of complaint about the movie. We're just talking about it. Nobody's saying this is the worst movie ever because Peter uses Bing and his dad's glasses happened to be the right prescription.
It's more that they didn't even acknowledge it. Like if Peter had put on the glasses and been surprised that they were the right prescription, whatever, convenient coincidence. But the movie treats glasses like somebody without much of an understanding of glasses or prescriptions, like you either wear glasses or you don't, and all glasses are the same.
To clarify for Sentry's sake, it doesn't ruin the movie or anything, it was just a scene that I found odd.
Anton Sugar
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Can we all at least agree that Raimi's "beginning" montages are better? I feel like Parker just GoogledBinged "spandex suits" and voila, he had a suit. The pace of his progression from Parker to Spider-Man was a little off/awkward.
That was a little weird in Spider-Man 1 too though, sure there's a montage of him designing the costume, but it doesn't show how he goes about it. It just kinda goes straight into a scene where he has the costume and that's that.
Chill out, on my phone so I guess that's why I totally missed the part of your post where you said explicitly you wear glasses. :lol
All I'm saying is its not impossible or a scene that even really stood out to me personally, but you're right in that some sort of surprise would've probably made that more believable.
Neither of the suits really felt very believable that a teen could make them to me, so it's not really an issue I have. I can suspend my disbelief. I did like Raimi's first act more than Webb's, though.
That scene where he's drawing out different SM consumes was one of my favorite bits of the franchise, but I sti think this version actually handled the suit origins better. No need to show him photoshopping out designs tbh, and him searching acrobatic/speed type suits do more for me in terms of believability than tobey drawing it out ever did. The pacing was off a bit through this movie, but i dont think his progression to sm was part of that pacing issues nesecarilly. On the topic of becoming sm though, I think we forget how he literally became spidey overnight in SM1, costume and all.
HomerSimpson-Man
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I love seeing Peter trying to design his suit, in both films, but let's face it, no one really knows how Peter completely made such awesomely complex looking costumes in either Spider-man 1 or Amazing. It's like, let's get started with some designs (Amazing adds a bit with the eye pieces), and then later "screw-it" he's Spider-man now.
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