What? He was perfect. Explain yourself.
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What? He was perfect. Explain yourself.
zomgbbqftw
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If Sony decide to bring back Simmons, they could have a "you look familiar" type of line from JJJ to Peter when he comes in with Spidey pics. Some kind of inside joke, "I knew a kid like you before, had pics of Spidey just like these" or something like that.
You have a point. I get totally confused whenever I see Stan Lee's cameos and wonder what Marvel universe I'm in.
ViewtifulJC
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Agreed
but don't let the TDK fanboys hear you say that about his rushed, botched storyline
You're funny. Anecdotal instances are hardly any proof at all when considering the average movie goer. And besides, Stan Lee never played an actual main character, whereas at this point JK Simmons is synonymous with J Jonah Jameson.
That's what I was thinking, but I suppose it wouldn't affect me so I'm not sure why I give so much of a crap.
Oh fuck this shit.
Harvey was perfect. Two Face was too busy twirling his half burnt off moustache and using his half brain to be.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Judging by how Stone was dressed the entire film, I think Webb has a thigh fetish.
He just lost everything, and it was implied by his "Harvey Two Face" name that he had already had a past of not being as squeaky clean as he would have people to believe. I dunno, different strokes for different folks. I thought he was a great foil to Joker's whole organized chaos philosophy, whereas Harvey WAS organized, but now is chaotic. Anyway, this is the Spider-Man thread, not the TDK thread. We should probably get on topic lest we be hit with the ban hammer.
zomgbbqftw
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When Emma Stone is concerned, why is this any kind of surprise?
Having the same actor is no more offputting (and probably less of a put off) than having a different actor play a role that previously belonged to someone else.
Of course some people are going to be put off by it and would have preferred Norton be the Hulk (arguably an actual main character) in The Avengers.
I'm still a junior, Solo. I can't be the man you want me to be.
They told me I could become anything I wanted.
SO I BECAME A
Let's agree to disagree. Having a different actor play a role that was previously helmed in a significant role can be attributed to "Oh yeah, the Gamma radiation has been slowly changing his face to look different" or "Yeah, Bruce Banner has been getting old quite gracefully" or some shit like that. In other words, over time people look different over different circumstances, do they not?
With having the same actor playing the same role in a different universe, that's a completely different ball game. Sure, it might not be too big of a deal to us, but it may confuse movie-goers to a fault. There's a reason there was no JJJ in this film. It's a thin line to walk between having the perfect JJJ and getting confused audiences.
Well, then, he could get a different hair cut so that he doesn't look exactly the same.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
I can get behind this. It wouldn't of made the film great, but really would of helped.
What? Lizard and Venom, now they were awful. Harvey/Two Face was done really well, but admittly could of benefited greatly from having his transformation take place across two movies. Two Face itself recieved the bulk of the negative impact of his transformation taking place within one film.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Spiderman 3 is a much more memorable film. The Sandman creation is head and shoulders above anything presented here, and at least the rest of the horribly laughable scenes provided by SM3 make for holy-like gifs and memories that (unfourtantely) won't go away.
The problem with ASM is it has very little impact besides providing a great Spidey and good chemistry between Gwen/Peter. Outside of the awesome swinging, and Spidey
dancing/web blasting thug to wall
Edit: The most memorable scene of ASM (for me) is Stan Lee's cameo.
Messofanego
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If I don't bother seeing this in cinemas, am I missing out? Doesn't seem like an essential movie to watch what with the origin retelling and only changing few things (Gwen Stacy, Lizard, parents). But if that's wrong, correct me.
brandonh83
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I have this gut feeling that people who didn't like the movie will tell you no, and people who did like it will tell you yes.
Only you can decide. I recommend that you do, but then again, I liked it!
And this movie is nothing like the first one Raimi did. I will stand by that.
show me your skeleton
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just got back and, like a few others here, thought the film was really rather bland, which disappointed me greatly. some elements were good, i felt the early action scenes had a nice sense of weight & both garfield & sheen were enjoyable, but overall i felt it was pretty poor. shame, i enjoyed 500 days of summer & despite this being a wholly different filmi hoped some of the charm would come through.
What's with the hostility? The laymen who goes to the movies doesn't notice the score as much as people like us. No need to get offended. :lol
zomgbbqftw
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You should watch it just for Emma Stone in thigh high boots and a lab coat. :O
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
They might not completely notice it, but the score makes a huge difference. Rocky's score turned a really good movie into an all-time classic.
Anton Sugar
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I thought the score in ASM was pretty awful. Just felt all over the place and not unified--even a little inappropriate/mismatched at times.
Put it up there with Prometheus for "why is this song playing during this moment" for me.
Put it up there with Prometheus for "why is this song playing during this moment" for me.
On what basis are you speaking for the layman on?
People have ears. They notice music. This isn't like nerds spazzing out over the inaccuracies in a superhero costume.
show me your skeleton
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agreed, it was heavy-handed at parts that really didn't need it. also, thank you for reminding me that prometheus has one of the worst main themes i've heard in a while.
EliteArtist
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A little anecdote: I was driving this morning and the DJ's on the radio were discussing the movie. Of course they thought it was good, but that's not the point. The point is the DJs started to talk about Spidey making his way into Avengers 2. Saying how awesome it would be. I wanted to call them and let them in on the bad news. Oh if only they knew the soul crushing existence of internet forums and it's infinite wisdom on why that won't happen ever.
Agreed apart form MJ/Harry. They should be introduced in the second movie so they have a footing, and we actually care/know about them a bit for the third movie when Gwen 'gets done'. Peter and Gwen double dating with Harry and MJ (comics style) would be awesome at some point.
Oh and JJJ should be younger in this version, Ult. SM style, with up and coming journalist Urich by his side.Oh and I wouldn't mind having an Aunt May and JJJ cross paths as love interests at some point either.
Very nice. We'll see how it ends up going in several years. I still hope they release an 'alternate version' of the movie or something, with that origin stuff, after ASM2 is out perhaps.
Same here, it's obvious that there were last minute changes since the entire marketing campaign (even the TV spots) was practically based on a different movie. If the post-credit teaser is credible, there's no way that the sequel won't revolve around his parents in a certain capacity. With ASM1 established, Sony's probably willing to do something riskier in regards to the origins, for ASM2.
I guarantee you the majority of people who watch movies aren't adept or keen enough in this regard to go and judge the score afterward. Unless you count a 'i liked how they used that coldplay song' as judging the score. OBVIOUSLY they notice it, but not enough to spot when it was bad or good specifically or on a scene-by-scene basis.
I take it you think i'm insinuating that's the score of a movie doesn't matter, but that's not what I meant in the slightest.. Was just telling Zekes that most people are like him.
:lol :lol
Aaron Eckhart was superb, so was his character. There was nothing rushed about it at all.
The only part of the score that really stood out to me was the singular horn playing over the Marvel logo and opening.
I didn't notice the score t all, which means its bad. but it being bad is more like a non plus and not a negative if you get what I mean.
Christopher
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Peter's uncle dieing had no emotional build up what so ever either...neither did aunt may seem likable I dunno the whole family aspect was covered better in Rami's spiderman.
Oh shit, I didn't even think about this for some reason. That would be an awesome reveal (esp. for those who don't know the comic lore). Possibly have it all happen during a 'break' between Gwen and Peter, or something. Would be wasted if it never happened.
I'd honestly be okay with them not killing Gwen off just to mess with the fan expectations. Having a character that has died in other mediums adds a lot of tension that isn't usually present in super hero flicks.
Everyone knows Peter is going to be fine, but I certainly didn't know for sure if Captain Stacy was going to make it or not. This nicely added some degree of uncertainty to the finale since the trailers had already spoiled both the cure cloudbursting above the city and the antenna collapsing.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Damn good film, I love me some Spidey. Some slight spoilers, nothing too big.
That being said, I don't know where I would place the film yet. Need to watch it a few more times.
Better than 3, yes, but Spider-man 2 was such a massive high, which was also Raimi at his most "Raimi-est evil-deadest" of his Spider-man films, especially the Doc Ock hospital scene, show casing his editing, zoom-in, screaming faces, and his horror style throughout, was awesome. Rumors of Raimi having the most control with Spider-man 2 and losing ground with it on 3 makes sense.
On that note, this was the best onscreen version of Spider-man yet, the visual effects are really improved. Love the way the movie emphasized his speed, and agility, dodging gun fire at near point blank range and the like. But the movie really gained it's strength when it finally went full Spider-man mode then from Awkward-teenager-man. Him exploring and getting used to his powers are always great and seeing Spider-man in full form kicking ass always makes me happy.
The pacing of the first half was burdened with trying to reset everything again to the point it felt, while we essentially know his origins, things were different to the point of being different because of the original trilogy, trying hard to step out of Raimi's shadow, so you lose things like iconic the Spider-man line "With great power..." or iconic characters mentioned/implied in reference, but never shown simply because it felt like too many retreads to the original as a reboot, while not expanding that much new. I can sorta fault the marketing for that one. You hear so much of this "Untold story" in the trailers and the irony is, well much of it is still untold. Lines from the trailers alluding to what Spider-man was in connecting with his parents work are completely absent.
Its really a mix of both versions of Spider-man that's close to the original, though I think prefer the details and world of Raimi's origin movie more (ASM has the most awesome Spider-man yet easily though), while it is noticeable that ASM does mirror aspects of the original saga.
As for the score, it wasn't bad, I really just don't remember much though, while watching the film, my mind started automatically injecting Elfman's score when things like the epic swinging sequences happened.
In all, I'm happy as a Spider-man fan. Will watch again.
That being said, I don't know where I would place the film yet. Need to watch it a few more times.
Better than 3, yes, but Spider-man 2 was such a massive high, which was also Raimi at his most "Raimi-est evil-deadest" of his Spider-man films, especially the Doc Ock hospital scene, show casing his editing, zoom-in, screaming faces, and his horror style throughout, was awesome. Rumors of Raimi having the most control with Spider-man 2 and losing ground with it on 3 makes sense.
On that note, this was the best onscreen version of Spider-man yet, the visual effects are really improved. Love the way the movie emphasized his speed, and agility, dodging gun fire at near point blank range and the like. But the movie really gained it's strength when it finally went full Spider-man mode then from Awkward-teenager-man. Him exploring and getting used to his powers are always great and seeing Spider-man in full form kicking ass always makes me happy.
The pacing of the first half was burdened with trying to reset everything again to the point it felt, while we essentially know his origins, things were different to the point of being different because of the original trilogy, trying hard to step out of Raimi's shadow, so you lose things like iconic the Spider-man line "With great power..." or iconic characters mentioned/implied in reference, but never shown simply because it felt like too many retreads to the original as a reboot, while not expanding that much new. I can sorta fault the marketing for that one. You hear so much of this "Untold story" in the trailers and the irony is, well much of it is still untold. Lines from the trailers alluding to what Spider-man was in connecting with his parents work are completely absent.
Its really a mix of both versions of Spider-man that's close to the original, though I think prefer the details and world of Raimi's origin movie more (ASM has the most awesome Spider-man yet easily though), while it is noticeable that ASM does mirror aspects of the original saga.
As for the score, it wasn't bad, I really just don't remember much though, while watching the film, my mind started automatically injecting Elfman's score when things like the epic swinging sequences happened.
In all, I'm happy as a Spider-man fan. Will watch again.
They should definitely play with it in the sequel a bit, but not actually do it. Then do something similar in the third movie, but actually pull the trigger. No one would see it coming. It would be akin to MJ in SM3 actually dying. She's the damsel in distress in every single SM movie, but you never think she'll die, so if she finally would, no one would expect it. That's what they should do with Gwen.
Her being in danger (seriously) in ASM2 could initiate a sort of break-up in the start of ASM3 and also fully introduce MJ during that time, as the new girl next door that May mentions in ASM2. Make it happen!
Itd be cool to see them toy with the idea a bit but I really dont want to see Gwen turn into a damsel in distress across the next 2 movies.
Just saw it. Loved it. Could've done with about 10 minutes less of high school angsty teen bullshit but I thought all the action was extremely well done and all the fight choreography was really inventive.
Might go watch it again actually. I've never watched the same film twice in the theater.
Also, it had the best 3D I've ever seen. Beat Avatar easily for me.
Might go watch it again actually. I've never watched the same film twice in the theater.
Also, it had the best 3D I've ever seen. Beat Avatar easily for me.
Shocking twist: Kill Gwen and MJ. Peter marries Harry.
zomgbbqftw
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Exactly, one of the things that they have got right with this movie is Gwen's character, she is pitched perfectly and acted prodigiously by Stone, it would be a massive let-down if they turn her into generic pretty damsel in distress #34375.
Nah, that's DC.
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