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[J-Rzez]

http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/1207_nissan_working_on_mini_z_to_target_frs_brz/



Ugh, I like Nissan and all but this is just downright disappointing.

Make it a Turbo AWD and I'd look at it, that car has a great profile. Would make a great everyday commuter/beater like the BRZ/Abarth/etc. Front needs work, but still looks good.

That'll probably compete with the Abarth and Focus ST more so though than a 86.

 

[Gouty]

Make it a Turbo AWD and I'd look at it, that car has a great profile. Would make a great everyday commuter/beater like the BRZ/Abarth/etc. Front needs work, but still looks good.

That'll probably compete with the Abarth and Focus ST more so though than a 86.

So you want a WRX?

 

[J-Rzez]

So you want a WRX?

Yes, I was hoping the next WRX to be a smallish 2-dr hatch actually. But Suby is taking their sweet ass time showing it off. And after the most recent article where it may end up a larger GT-wagon, I'd be closing up the check book to Subaru if the case.

 

[reilo]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/18/kia-names-new-rwd-flagship-sedan-quoris/

BMW 6-series much, Kia?

 

[N-Bomb]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/18/kia-names-new-rwd-flagship-sedan-quoris/

BMW 6-series much, Kia?

Kia/Hyundai are notorious for lifting designs. Dunno if it's a Korean thing, since Samsung is the same way, but man.

 

[robox]

if that nissan was touted as the new versa, it might actually be interesting. but to target fr-s/brz, what the fuck they thinking?? as bad as a few years ago when they tried to market the maxima as a 4 door z

 

[jongkookie]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/18/kia-names-new-rwd-flagship-sedan-quoris/

BMW 6-series much, Kia?

Haha I saw these being advertised in Seoul's international airport a week ago, they had the car on display and it looked amazing. I swear to God this isn't a Kia, it looked so German they might actually be able to steal some thunder from them. And if they drop a 6 speed stick for the US version, I'll definitely pick this one up over a 6-series. It looks really good.

 

[mescalineeyes]

Haha I saw these being advertised in Seoul's international airport a week ago, they had the car on display and it looked amazing. I swear to God this isn't a Kia, it looked so German they might actually be able to steal some thunder from them. And if they drop a 6 speed stick for the US version, I'll definitely pick this one up over a 6-series. It looks really good.

I am sorry but no.

Everything about this car screams Asian. It is yet to be released and it looks far less classy then the 6 series grand coupé, which is already fairly dated looking in my opinion. The only thing this thing has going for it is the RWD (and most likely the price)

And picking this up over a 6 series? Come on now. You and mostly anyone would give their left nut to be able to afford a 6 series, especially after you have sat in one.

 

[GungHo]

It will have a fucked up transmission and the ride will be equivalent to a tank on a Florida road.

 

[Liquidsnake]

It will have a fucked up transmission and the ride will be equivalent to a tank on a Florida road.

So true.

 

[jongkookie]

I am sorry but no.

Everything about this car screams Asian. It is yet to be released and it looks far less classy then the 6 series grand coupé, which is already fairly dated looking in my opinion. The only thing this thing has going for it is the RWD (and most likely the price)

And picking this up over a 6 series? Come on now. You and mostly anyone would give their left nut to be able to afford a 6 series, especially after you have sat in one.

True, upon closer inspection it looks Asian. But if you haven't seen these before, I bet you a hundred bucks you'd mistake it for a German car. That's exactly what I did, and that's the thunder I'm speaking about, I'm sure that's what Kia is after.

You're right, I'd probably have to give up my left nut for a 6 series or this, but I honestly wouldn't buy one and I've driven a couple of 6 series even an M6 thanks to my line of work. But the newer models really never interested me, and I don't know why. Maybe it's because I don't have that kind of cash to throw around, but even if I did I'd rather spend the $50k to fully restore an RX-7/Supra/AE86/E36 M3/NA or NB Miata then drop a Chevy LS. That's not to say nothing interests me within BMW though... 3-series with a diesel here in the USA, that I'd buy in a heartbeat(if I had money lol).

I'm kinda surprised at the hate this is receiving though. Somebody enlighten me as to why I should hate this car if they don't mind. Me personally, I see this as a good thing. Why? More competition, meaning more innovation, and thus better cars for us enthusiasts. What's to hate about that?

 

[Enron]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/18/kia-names-new-rwd-flagship-sedan-quoris/

BMW 6-series much, Kia?

It's a complete rip, obviously, but it's still a great looking car. However, the only reason to buy one is if you can't afford a bmw. And lots of people can't, so I don't really see the problem here.

 

[ascii42]

True, upon closer inspection it looks Asian. But if you haven't seen these before, I bet you a hundred bucks you'd mistake it for a German car. That's exactly what I did, and that's the thunder I'm speaking about, I'm sure that's what Kia is after.

You're right, I'd probably have to give up my left nut for a 6 series or this, but I honestly wouldn't buy one and I've driven a couple of 6 series even an M6 thanks to my line of work. But the newer models really never interested me, and I don't know why. Maybe it's because I don't have that kind of cash to throw around, but even if I did I'd rather spend the $50k to fully restore an RX-7/Supra/AE86/E36 M3/NA or NB Miata then drop a Chevy LS. That's not to say nothing interests me within BMW though... 3-series with a diesel here in the USA, that I'd buy in a heartbeat(if I had money lol).

I'm kinda surprised at the hate this is receiving though. Somebody enlighten me as to why I should hate this car if they don't mind. Me personally, I see this as a good thing. Why? More competition, meaning more innovation, and thus better cars for us enthusiasts. What's to hate about that?

Because it's Kia. And people like to throw a fuss whenever Kia or Hyundai rip off other vehicles. But when when Ford rips off Aston Martin to design the new Fusion, that's perfectly cool.

 

[reilo]

It's a complete rip, obviously, but it's still a great looking car. However, the only reason to buy one is if you can't afford a bmw. And lots of people can't, so I don't really see the problem here.

It's the good old "it looks like a BMW 6-series until a real BMW 6-series rolls up next to it" effect.

 

[GamePnoy74]

http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/1207_nissan_working_on_mini_z_to_target_frs_brz/

Hey Nissan...so you doing 'Nissan Compact Sport Concept'?

I remember you played that game a few years ago with 'Nissan Sports Concept'...

Which ended up to be the Nissan Versa =(

 

[N-Bomb]

Because it's Kia. And people like to throw a fuss whenever Kia or Hyundai rip off other vehicles. But when when Ford rips off Aston Martin to design the new Fusion, that's perfectly cool.

I'm not trying to bring that discussion back, I think calling the new Fusion a rip of Astons is highly... weird.

Aston DBS

2013 Fusion

2013 Taurus

This is a family styling thing they've had going for a couple years now. Old Fusion was still using their old design language. Wrong to call it a rip. Yes there are similarities, but not to the extent that Hyundai/Kia go to. Definitely not.


Side: I should add that I really don't think the Zuke will do anything for enthusiast market except waste Nissan's money.

 

[ascii42]

The grille is almost the exact same, and the rest of the fascia is somewhat similar. Other than that, there's no real relation, you're right. Hyundai and Kia have done their fair share of ripping off individual elements as well. But yeah, they've definitely got a history.

 

[paskowitz]

I'm not trying to bring that discussion back, I think calling the new Fusion a rip of Astons is highly... weird.

Side: I should add that I really don't think the Zuke will do anything for enthusiast market except waste Nissan's money.

Yeah, but ripping off Aston Martin is like saying "she is ripping off a Penelope Cruz look".

That being said, I agree with Henrik Fisker said at a TEDx event. There is a serious lack of originality in car design.

 

[cajunator]

Yeah, but ripping off Aston Martin is like saying "she is ripping off a Penelope Cruz look".

That being said, I agree with Henrik Fisker said at a TEDx event. There is a serious lack of originality in car design.

Not always.

 

[Halvie]

that pic makes me really really want a new 335 / upcoming m version

curse hre for not making those in 18"

 

[N-Bomb]

Not always.

Oh come on, you can't use the Orochi for an argument for anything. It's like a car Godwin. :\

 

[Slayer-33]

Dayum

Dayum

 

[Xirj]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ba73iuZi1qfe1nwo2_1280.jpg

that pic makes me really really want a new 335 / upcoming m version

curse hre for not making those in 18"

Are the bumper and side sills stock?

 

[Halvie]

Are the bumper and side sills stock?

I think, but am not 100% sure. Bumper / black grille look nice though

 

[mescalineeyes]

Are the bumper and side sills stock?

No, they are not stock but I think its the M Sports package.

Those rims look stupid though.

 

[Halvie]

No, they are not stock but I think its the M Sports package.

Those rims look stupid though.

lol

what would you prefer (aside from te37...which I haven't seen on f30, but assume they look just as good as they do on 46/92).

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Yeah, but ripping off Aston Martin is like saying "she is ripping off a Penelope Cruz look".

That being said, I agree with Henrik Fisker said at a TEDx event. There is a serious lack of originality in car design.

Fisker should spend less time on design and more on engineering. The Karma is a mess.

 

[Rookje]

Hemi Orange isn't available either because Dodge convinced itself it should make the most popular color a limited edition for the first three years.

I think Header orange is a nicer color tbh.

My fav though is Green with Envy

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Great news!

Top Gear USA returns Aug. 14 for 16-episode season

It's the also the ONLY new Top Gear we'll see this year, so let's hope it's great! (I think it will be)

each season gets better while the British one gets worse.

 

[mescalineeyes]

lol

what would you prefer (aside from te37...which I haven't seen on f30, but assume they look just as good as they do on 46/92).

no HRE ones, that's for sure.

I like these ones the best on the f30:

 

[aznpxdd]

Since you guys are discussing the F30. Know that the currently most modded F30 in USA (I think still) is owned by a Gaffer. (not me)

And to the guy hating on HRE. All I can say is LOL.

 

[mescalineeyes]

And to the guy hating on HRE. All I can say is LOL.

No, LOL at all the wannabe race-car drivers who think those shiny chrome rims don't make them look like total classless douchebags.

 

[aznpxdd]

Yeah, because that's EXACTLY what HRE Wheels are known for.

*rolls eyes*

 

[mescalineeyes]

What *are* they known for?

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Not always.

That's the most hideous car I've ever seen.

 

[bcl0328]

Since you guys are discussing the F30. Know that the currently most modded F30 in USA (I think still) is owned by a Gaffer. (not me)

And to the guy hating on HRE. All I can say is LOL.

i need that front bumper.

 

[KennyLinder]

Looking at an E90 325i M-Sport trim (UK spec) for my next car. A diesel is very tempting with the miles I do, and the surge from the torque is great, but I just LOVE BMW's 6 cylinder petrol engines. Still, 39mpg on the motorway isn't too bad for a big engine petrol engine.

Whether a diesel really is worth the additional cost in servicing, upfront cost and higher fuel price over nearly 50% better fuel economy per tank and less road tax is an interesting one. It might take a few years to claw that money back, and by that point you probably won't give a shit anyway.


Thoughts?

 

[aznpxdd]

i need that front bumper.

Its the 1M's front bumper molded on. Done by the one and only LTBMW in SoCal.

What *are* they known for?

You should probably go check out their website.

Saying HRE exemplifies "Shiny, chrome, douchey" wheels is just laughable.

 

[mescalineeyes]

You should probably go check out their website.

Saying HRE exemplifies "Shiny, chrome, douchey" wheels is just laughable.

I have and that's what they look like to me if you drive around them on the street.

 

[Aguirre]

Toyota's 4.2 straight six turbo diesel, 1HD-FT getting revved.

no other suv engine comes close, which is why they are very much sought after in war torn countries. the three R's come to mind: rugged, reliable, and repairable.

 

[N-Bomb]

each season gets better while the British one gets worse.

Dunno if I'd go that far. TG needs to quit the scripted humour though, rely more on realness.

Agree that TGUSA keeps getting better.

Saying HRE exemplifies "Shiny, chrome, douchey" wheels is just laughable.

Are you saying that they're NOT footballer wheels?

 

[Black_Stride]

So you want a WRX?

Nope he wants a GTi-R

Nissan brings this beast back and ill be shitty myself saving for it.
One of my friends had a mildly modified GTi-R and it spanked pretty much everything on the street, it was one of the most fun cars ive ever driven.

I pray this Compact Coupe Concept ends up with a GTi-R edition.

Not only do i want a GTi-R, i also want a resurrection of the damn Silvia, ida thunk with the success of the BRZ/86 Nissan would be jumping on a Smaller RWD car.

 

[coldfoot]

Nope he wants a GTi-R

This car + Seattle was my favorite GT2 memory...

 

[N-Bomb]

Nope he wants a GTi-R

Not only do i want a GTi-R, i also want a resurrection of the damn Silvia, ida thunk with the success of the BRZ/86 Nissan would be jumping on a Smaller RWD car.

Not that I'm a big fan, but why have I never heard of this car?

 

[AlphaSnake]

No, LOL at all the wannabe race-car drivers who think those shiny chrome rims don't make them look like total classless douchebags.

You're a bit of a moron aren't you? Stop talking.

 

[mescalineeyes]

You're a bit of a moron aren't you? Stop talking.

You are the one who should obviously stop talking when having to resort to directed ad-hominems in this discussion. Please, tell me the benefits of these rims except for looking really tacky.

 

[AlphaSnake]

You are the one who should obviously stop talking when having to resort to directed ad-hominems in this discussion. Please, tell me the benefits of these rims except for looking really tacky.

First of all, HREs aren't chrome - they're brushed or polished. Enormous difference. Chrome is an applicant that adds weight to a wheel - the other two are simply a machined effect, there is no reflection, unlike chrome. Second of all, HREs are forged wheels, which are much, much stronger than regular cast wheels, so they are far less likely to bend or crack - which is a huge plus when you're running low profile tires and live with fairly crappy roads. Third of all, forged means they're lightweight wheels, usually considerably lighter than OEM cast wheels, which adds the inherent advantage in acceleration and braking performance for your car.

If you didn't know that much about what makes an HRE wheel a spectacular wheel, you don't really need to be in this thread trolling with your bullshit.

 

[reilo]

When's the new 335i Coupe supposed to arrive? Or is it coming as a 435i?

 

[mescalineeyes]

When's the new 335i Coupe supposed to arrive? Or is it coming as a 435i?

It'll be a 4 series and it'll be out mid 2013 as far as I know.

And thanks for the heads-up on HRE, AlphaSnake. I still think they look awful but hey, I guess it's a worthy trade-off.

 

[kharma45]

Looking at an E90 325i M-Sport trim (UK spec) for my next car. A diesel is very tempting with the miles I do, and the surge from the torque is great, but I just LOVE BMW's 6 cylinder petrol engines. Still, 39mpg on the motorway isn't too bad for a big engine petrol engine.

Whether a diesel really is worth the additional cost in servicing, upfront cost and higher fuel price over nearly 50% better fuel economy per tank and less road tax is an interesting one. It might take a few years to claw that money back, and by that point you probably won't give a shit anyway.


Thoughts?

Just to throw it out too a diesel 3-Series will hold it's value better than a petrol equivalent, especially a 6-cyclinder one.

A 320d is hard to beat as a package, lots of torque, 0-62 in 7.5 seconds and a claimed average fuel consumption of 60mpg.