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The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth |OT| Pixel Heart Mother
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SerTapTap
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Ed makes jokes when it ISN'T april first. I wouldn't believe a single tweet today.
Frustrated_Grunt
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First April fools joke I fell for hook, line, and sinker this year. Now I'm sad.
EnlightenedMint
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It sucks it will only be on the new 3DS, but I can certainly see why.
http://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/31611h/isaac_3ds_footage/cpyojnu
http://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/31611h/isaac_3ds_footage/cpyojnu
Mostmanlyman
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Edit: my bad the reddit link just loaded for me, my bad.
TurboLibre
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I always get it because it's fun to see how it synergies with things. It frequently ruins my run, but I still pick it up for the crazy.
If you can get piercing shots it's so good. Honestly, the knockback is the worst part about it.
In other news, I've finally reached a 20-run Eden streak! 100 wins here we come
Indrid Cold
Unconfirmed Member
Nice. Unlocked the lost 1st try. 4 chars, 4 runs.
Nearly done! Just need to find 3 items (raw liver, missing no# and something else) and I'll 100% it. This last stretch has not been fun 
I'm not sure I'll go for the dlc if it involves anything as arduous as the lost or the super meatboy challenges. It's really burnt me out.
I'm not sure I'll go for the dlc if it involves anything as arduous as the lost or the super meatboy challenges. It's really burnt me out.
EnlightenedMint
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The first Afterbirth update is here.
http://bindingofisaac.com/post/115745801844/afterbirth-update-1
http://bindingofisaac.com/post/115745801844/afterbirth-update-1
SerTapTap
Member
Dear god Ed as Isaac is terrifying
Birgitte2004
Member
A new mode that adds 100+ hours of content could mean practically anything, and I can envision a lot of situations where it would not be fun.
Example: blindfolded mode. Each character starts with blind-folded, with a familiar, and a whole new set of unlocks for each defeat. Add the Lost in and that would probably be a 100+ hour addition, but not a fun one.
The Lost really fouls up how I feel about any potential additions, I so wish that character did not exist.
Example: blindfolded mode. Each character starts with blind-folded, with a familiar, and a whole new set of unlocks for each defeat. Add the Lost in and that would probably be a 100+ hour addition, but not a fun one.
The Lost really fouls up how I feel about any potential additions, I so wish that character did not exist.
The new DLC, even after you have purchased it, should be locked behind a boss fight when you start the game.
The boss is The Lost. It is the first thing you fight when you load up the game. Much like the character, he dies in one hit and is awful. After you kill him, he drops all of the items that were previously tied to his unlocks, his achievements are removed or awarded, and he is deleted from the game forever. You have vanquished The Lost.
The boss is The Lost. It is the first thing you fight when you load up the game. Much like the character, he dies in one hit and is awful. After you kill him, he drops all of the items that were previously tied to his unlocks, his achievements are removed or awarded, and he is deleted from the game forever. You have vanquished The Lost.
SerTapTap
Member
Would buy just for this. And I already have his achievements
Birgitte2004
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I just learned something I never knew.
Blue Heart Devil deals will happily take red hearts if you have them.
Saw someone on twitch get HP up after seeing Devil Deal, assumed it worked like red hearts (where it won't take Blue/Black Hearts) so tried to pick up a Devil item with 1 red and 2 blue hearts, and died.
Blue Heart Devil deals will happily take red hearts if you have them.
Saw someone on twitch get HP up after seeing Devil Deal, assumed it worked like red hearts (where it won't take Blue/Black Hearts) so tried to pick up a Devil item with 1 red and 2 blue hearts, and died.
Haunted
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Being able to put custom heads into the game with 4 photographs instantly becomes the most requested feature.
Knowing Ed, they'll absolutely double down on The Lost.
SerTapTap
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Wouldn't be surprised at all. I'm sure at a bare minimum it'll be required for character unlocks the same as anyone else.
Birgitte2004
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My real fear for Afterbirth would be Boss Rush 2.0, beat Isaac/Satan/Path#3 boss in 30 minutes, or something similar.
Boss Rush 1.0 was bad enough.
Boss Rush 1.0 was bad enough.
Mister Negative
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I would remove mom's knife from the game if I could. So unfun.
Mister Negative
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Curse of the Blind devil room as the Lost got me. Went from death's touch to that. Bleh.
I kinda would be a bit surprised, he pays attention to the subreddit and knows how much it's disliked there. At the same time he may be mistaking the complaints as having a character that's gratifyingly hard, when really it's just a poorly designed character/challenge and not fun to play.
The pokeball item looks fun, can't see it being too useful though.
SerTapTap
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I'd just buy it, fun to be part of the zeitgeist but it's still a great game now and will still be a great game in 5 years assuming there isn't another (almost...RIP OST) universally superior remake. I think it was on sale 33% off once though, maybe it will be next major steam sale. I was kind of hoping it would show up in an Easter sale for laughs.
There's a chance it could go on sale when the DLC hits, although I don't know when that's going to be.
I just got this game based on coworkers talking it up. Sadly, I'm not sure if I should keep playing. I walked in blind and beat Mom on my first run, didn't seem very difficult (I don't consider myself overly skilled) and I'm hoping there is more to this other than randomness.
I don't want to spoil too much, but is there a secondary mission beyond Mom like you find in similar games (e.g. Spelunky)?
I don't want to spoil too much, but is there a secondary mission beyond Mom like you find in similar games (e.g. Spelunky)?
There are many floors and bosses beyond Mom. I'd say beating Mom for the first time is like getting an your first vehicle in a JRPG, when shit gets real.
Cool, thank you. Another run it is =).
Yeah, after a few mom kills (try different characters so you get additional variety) you'll start unlocking a lot more stuff, it's definitely worth putting more time into it. As well as unlocking more items/bosses/floors etc you'll also end up increasing the difficulty of the game too.
Birgitte2004
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I had an Eden run start with Kamikaze! and got Pyromaniac out of the first item room.
I envisioned I'd be all set.
Instead I discover that Kamikaze! is terrible even with Pyro. Smaller range than a normal bomb, and the damage per explosion is Dr. Fetus level (awful).
Did it used to be good and get caught up in the Dr. Fetus nerf or has it always been this awful?
I ended up just accumulating red hearts and using it as a heal, and using it to find secret rooms. Talk about a major disappointment.
I can't imagine why they felt the need to make Kamikaze! weak considering how practically impossible it is to use.
I envisioned I'd be all set.
Instead I discover that Kamikaze! is terrible even with Pyro. Smaller range than a normal bomb, and the damage per explosion is Dr. Fetus level (awful).
Did it used to be good and get caught up in the Dr. Fetus nerf or has it always been this awful?
I ended up just accumulating red hearts and using it as a heal, and using it to find secret rooms. Talk about a major disappointment.
I can't imagine why they felt the need to make Kamikaze! weak considering how practically impossible it is to use.
Grimm Fandango
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Honestly is there any point to Kamikaze? Nothing makes me want to reset more than seeing that piece of shit in the first item room.
SerTapTap
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Can't you basically run around inside enemies' sprites with Kamikaze because it heals you faster than you'll take damage if you have enough hearts? Still shitty though considering devil rooms and spirit/black/eternal hearts that you'll lose if you do that.
It's one of a few items that's basically 95% bad but becomes OP with extremely specific item combos--Pyro in this case, which turns it into a free infinite heal (and also infinite close range bombs). There's some amusing combos like that but personally I'd love an option to remove some of those, along with Isaac's Heart, Guillotine, Bob's Brain, and honestly Dr. Fetus post-nerf.
It's one of a few items that's basically 95% bad but becomes OP with extremely specific item combos--Pyro in this case, which turns it into a free infinite heal (and also infinite close range bombs). There's some amusing combos like that but personally I'd love an option to remove some of those, along with Isaac's Heart, Guillotine, Bob's Brain, and honestly Dr. Fetus post-nerf.
Xamtheking
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Kamikaze deals only a half of heart of damage(before The Womb) to the character(as opposed to a full heart with a normal bomb)
Also, it's not soymilk
It's basically only good in the incredibly specific situation of having it as a combo with Pyromaniac on the Lost so that you can have permanent invincibility.
It's right there with Blood Rights and Razor Blade for useless items.
Xamtheking
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Going to the Cathedral early via an Angel Room on Mom's Heart(I'm no pro) and beating Isaac is satisfying
Also, just had a Gnawed Leaf + Daddy Longlegs run, and that was fun to win
Also, just had a Gnawed Leaf + Daddy Longlegs run, and that was fun to win
Birgitte2004
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I don't think this is true on the latest patch.
I tried to abuse Kami/Pyro invincibility and I still took damage regularly. I certainly wouldn't want to test it as the Lost late in a good run.
Could be, I've never actually tested it myself since I never got the combo but I remember reading it on one of the wikis.
Huh, we're getting alt tracks to existing levels?
Pulso Profundum, the new track for Depths/Necropolis
Pulso Profundum, the new track for Depths/Necropolis
He mentions in the blog post that some are for the new game mode they've developed. Wonder what they'll involve. That track seems pretty sinister, I like it although it's notably different from the rest of the score. Shame that it's such a small update this week, really looking forward to finding out more about Afterbirth.
Couple of secret links in the blog post. This image:
and this youtube video, for some reason. Looks like that item might be a spacebar item that doubles the items in a room? Like a reusable Jera? Or maybe it doubles your damage?
Matthias Bossi from Ridiculon (artists behind Rebirth ost) was part of the band that recorded that song, that's why. Apparently Edmund thinks this song is something that would work for BoI soundtrack.
Indrid Cold
Unconfirmed Member
Yes. Suicide king done finally. All challenges clear. Now I just need boss rush and the lamb on a few chars and I have most things unlocked. Well besides the lost.
fuck him though. Such a pain to use
SerTapTap
Member
Pretty decent. RIP hopes for Danny Baranowsky DLC I guess