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The Black Culture Thread |OT7| Luigi took our stare
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EscoBlades
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I'd be in a sad state of affairs if my lunch cost less than $5. Typically my lunch runs about $15.
Humble bragging.
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movie bob, just recently put it best
"How perplexing it is that WB regards Frank Millers batman and the Death of Superman as major works of fiction, rather than creaky relics of eras and trends that almost destroyed their medium "
Nah breh,
i am a guy who appreciates the sillier side of batman, and actively dislikes 60's batman. inever had an major issue with a lot of more serious batman stuff, cuz read hoods the best. That said miller's stuff is still... bad.
I was listening to the Super Best friends podcast and woolie gets all hype at him telling a story in a sentence, saying thats how much of a good writer he is, when he the quote he pulls from Millar is just a quote from Ernest Hemingway
I thought it was like a germ type of situation
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I gotta eat. Remember I'm a giant.
Angelus be likeDo you derive sustenance form these types of posts and the reactions that follow? It's the only reason I can see you do them so often
andthebeatgoeson
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Yeah, fuck Charlamagne. I would not gaf if he slapped him. He got real quiet.
Fredro said some real shit: If the kids like it, I can't complain.
Except for skinny jeans. I still give them a side eye.
Mrs. Manky
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Mark Millar wishes he was Frank Miller.
Oh, and speaking of Vince McMahon, I got to see parts of the Scooby Doo/WWE crossover cartoon movie. Seeing animated McMahon and Cena was hilarious. Made me wonder if the plot was better or worse than the next Wrestlemania.
I mean, the bowl with slightly less shit in it, still is a bowl of shit.
User 73706
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I've never gotten this either. Maybe it's just my graphic design OCD kicking in, but I feel like a good 90% of the stuff I see come out of black twitter and the coli looks like it's been screencapped by a potato.
Or you get that roundabout post to twitter > screencap > take picture of phone > upload to internet compressed > take another picture > save as compressed jpeg > upload to imgur again > neogaf cycle.
Fredo wasn't gonna do shit breh, he's like 120 wet, he would have got bodied. Also dude went off on something stupid shit, but I feel it was more of calling him out on all of his trolling in general and not just that thing.
Sticky, was high as fuck in that interview, lord how did he even get to the radio station
Angelus Errare
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No one wishes they were Frank Miller nowadays, even Frank Miller doesn't want to be Frank Miller. At this point in both of their careers, I'd much rather read a Millar book than a Miller book.
Storm Chamber
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keep thinking size matters in a fight brehs
John Bryne probably wishes he was Miller.
I told J10 I'd drop in here and do a little science-fiction coverage from black authors and non-black authors who regularly have black main characters, so here it is.
Let's lead off with a catch all site: http://blacksciencefictionsociety.com/
The title is pretty self-explanatory. The website is ugly as sin, but they cover new and old fiction by black authors in most of the speculative genres.
Science-Fiction (Black Authors):
Octavia Butler:
The Queen of Black Science Fiction, Octavia Butler not only is well-regarded in the science fiction world, but also in the literary world for books like Kindred, a time travel story where a modern black woman is transported to 19th Century Maryland, where she meets her ancestors -- a white slave owner and his slave.
But she also writes straight up, badass, science fiction, including the Patternist series (a secret history that ranges from Ancient Egypt to the far future, involves telepathy, aliens, etc.) , the Parable duology (about a girl with hyperempathy and the collapse of American civilization), and Lilith's Brood (about humanity being saved by aliens after a nuclear war).
Butler is a take no prisoners writer. She doesn't blanche from tackling racial and social issues head on in her writing.
Samuel Delany:
One of the greatest writers in the genre, full stop. Samuel Delany is a gay black man whose work dominates science fiction. He's been inducted to the Science fiction Hall of Fame. He's been awarded four Nebulas and two Hugo awards, putting him in a very small class with people like Arthur C. Clarke. And his writing buries most of the rest of those guys.
The Einstein Intersection: The surface story tells of the problems a member of an alien race, Lo Lobey, has assimilating the mythology of earth, where his kind have settled among the leftover artifacts of humanity. It digs deeper, though, with discussions of what it's like to deal with a majority culture to which you don't entirely belong.
Dhalgren: One of the great science fiction novels, it's primary plot is about a city cut off from the rest of reality, with a protagonist who has lost his memory. One of the most complex science fiction novels written, sometimes mentioned in the same breath with classics like Finnegan's Wake by Joyce. People have been teasing new meaning out of this book for decades now.
Return to Nevèrÿon (series): These stories take place before history, and feature an nearly all black or brown set of protagonists, as the white barbarians to the south aren't ready for any sort for civilization yet. Essentially sword and sorcery books, these go well with other black fantasy, like Sword and Soul (which we'll get to in the next post).
Steven Barnes:
Steven Barnes is one of my favorite black science fiction writers, although he deals with less "black themes" than some of the others on this list. He's a hard science-fiction writer who has a history of working with Larry Niven (who is one of my absolutely favorites...Ringworld!)
The Dream Park Series (with Larry Niven): Before there was matrix, there was the Dream Park, where anything could happen, including terrible malfunctions that killed the people playing in the Dream Park. Niven and Barnes create four wonderful romps through this world, including Dream Park, The Barsoom Project, The California Voodoo Game, and The Moon Maze Game.
The Heorot Series (with Niven and Pournelle): Straight up interplanetary fiction. colonists settle on a world only to discover it contains an alien species they name "grendels." A great duology, full of action, cool interplanetary science, and giant monsters that need some killing.
The Insh'Allah series: A duology about a world where the Islamic Africa is the center of the technological world, while Europe remains a backward, parochial place. If you want to see Arab warriors battling Aztecs, while Europe is still a bunch of tribes taken as slaves by the dominant African culture, this is for you.
Barnes has about thirty novels out there, most of which are worth reading. He's recently been writing with his wife, Tananarive Due, who will be discussed in the fantasy portion.
Walter Mosley
You may know Walter Mosley from his novel Devil in the Blue Dress, which was made into a movie starring Denzel. Well, he also writes science fiction, and it's very, very good stuff. I stumbled on his stuff in the library one day and went out and bought most of it.
Blue Light: A blue light hovers over North Carolina and everyone it touches either dies, goes mad, or gains a new power. Cool and freaky.
Futureland: A collection of science fiction short stories by Mosley, it's full of interesting ideas and fascinating characters.
I love Mosley's writing and characters, and while his science is sometimes a little soft, it never bothered me in the slightest.
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Okay, if people are interested, I'll do black fantasy writers next, then some non-black writers who have series that are of special interest tou readers into multiculturalism and black protagonists.
Let's lead off with a catch all site: http://blacksciencefictionsociety.com/
The title is pretty self-explanatory. The website is ugly as sin, but they cover new and old fiction by black authors in most of the speculative genres.
Science-Fiction (Black Authors):
Octavia Butler:
The Queen of Black Science Fiction, Octavia Butler not only is well-regarded in the science fiction world, but also in the literary world for books like Kindred, a time travel story where a modern black woman is transported to 19th Century Maryland, where she meets her ancestors -- a white slave owner and his slave.
But she also writes straight up, badass, science fiction, including the Patternist series (a secret history that ranges from Ancient Egypt to the far future, involves telepathy, aliens, etc.) , the Parable duology (about a girl with hyperempathy and the collapse of American civilization), and Lilith's Brood (about humanity being saved by aliens after a nuclear war).
Butler is a take no prisoners writer. She doesn't blanche from tackling racial and social issues head on in her writing.
Samuel Delany:
One of the greatest writers in the genre, full stop. Samuel Delany is a gay black man whose work dominates science fiction. He's been inducted to the Science fiction Hall of Fame. He's been awarded four Nebulas and two Hugo awards, putting him in a very small class with people like Arthur C. Clarke. And his writing buries most of the rest of those guys.
The Einstein Intersection: The surface story tells of the problems a member of an alien race, Lo Lobey, has assimilating the mythology of earth, where his kind have settled among the leftover artifacts of humanity. It digs deeper, though, with discussions of what it's like to deal with a majority culture to which you don't entirely belong.
Dhalgren: One of the great science fiction novels, it's primary plot is about a city cut off from the rest of reality, with a protagonist who has lost his memory. One of the most complex science fiction novels written, sometimes mentioned in the same breath with classics like Finnegan's Wake by Joyce. People have been teasing new meaning out of this book for decades now.
Return to Nevèrÿon (series): These stories take place before history, and feature an nearly all black or brown set of protagonists, as the white barbarians to the south aren't ready for any sort for civilization yet. Essentially sword and sorcery books, these go well with other black fantasy, like Sword and Soul (which we'll get to in the next post).
Steven Barnes:
Steven Barnes is one of my favorite black science fiction writers, although he deals with less "black themes" than some of the others on this list. He's a hard science-fiction writer who has a history of working with Larry Niven (who is one of my absolutely favorites...Ringworld!)
The Dream Park Series (with Larry Niven): Before there was matrix, there was the Dream Park, where anything could happen, including terrible malfunctions that killed the people playing in the Dream Park. Niven and Barnes create four wonderful romps through this world, including Dream Park, The Barsoom Project, The California Voodoo Game, and The Moon Maze Game.
The Heorot Series (with Niven and Pournelle): Straight up interplanetary fiction. colonists settle on a world only to discover it contains an alien species they name "grendels." A great duology, full of action, cool interplanetary science, and giant monsters that need some killing.
The Insh'Allah series: A duology about a world where the Islamic Africa is the center of the technological world, while Europe remains a backward, parochial place. If you want to see Arab warriors battling Aztecs, while Europe is still a bunch of tribes taken as slaves by the dominant African culture, this is for you.
Barnes has about thirty novels out there, most of which are worth reading. He's recently been writing with his wife, Tananarive Due, who will be discussed in the fantasy portion.
Walter Mosley
You may know Walter Mosley from his novel Devil in the Blue Dress, which was made into a movie starring Denzel. Well, he also writes science fiction, and it's very, very good stuff. I stumbled on his stuff in the library one day and went out and bought most of it.
Blue Light: A blue light hovers over North Carolina and everyone it touches either dies, goes mad, or gains a new power. Cool and freaky.
Futureland: A collection of science fiction short stories by Mosley, it's full of interesting ideas and fascinating characters.
I love Mosley's writing and characters, and while his science is sometimes a little soft, it never bothered me in the slightest.
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Okay, if people are interested, I'll do black fantasy writers next, then some non-black writers who have series that are of special interest tou readers into multiculturalism and black protagonists.
Boss Riovane
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Laughed way to hard at this. So true....
And didn't know bout the others but a friend of mine hipped me to Octavia Butler. So good.
you think he would have honestly done something there?
Angelus Errare
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This is true.
Storm Chamber
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If the cameras werent on, I don't see why not.....unelss Charlamagne has some secret boxing career we don't know about
Mrs. Manky
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Oh, sure, I'd rather read a /current/ Mark Millar book over a current Frank Miller book (if I absolutely had to, and I'll be damned if I will). But when looking at their total bodies of work, Miller shits on Millar.
Dude reinvented Superman and no one remembers him. I use to lurk on his board, dude is bittter and angry as all the hells.
Is the small person legit crazy?
He has a board?
Angelus Errare
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Bryne is bitter incarnate.
Oh you get no argument on bodies of work; but Miller is but a shell of his former self nowadays. I'm hesitant on anything that has the words "Frank Miller" on it nowadays.
Dude needs a hug.
Oh you get no argument on bodies of work; but Miller is but a shell of his former self nowadays. I'm hesitant on anything that has the words "Frank Miller" on it nowadays.
Dude needs a hug.
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Mrs. Manky
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Thank you for that black science fiction writer link and summary, Besada. I'd just like to add that Steven Barnes wrote the Aubry Knight series (Street Lethal, Gorgon Child, and Firedance). Street Lethal was one of the first sci-fi stories I'd ever read with a black male lead. It is a great series and the fighting scenes are awesome (the author has been studying martial arts for a long time). There is also (for its time) a very pro LGBTQ angle to the series, with an enclave of gay male badasses, amongst others.
Boss Riovane
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Byrne argued with everyone. But the cat did give me that fourth wall breaking she hulk.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Storm Chamber
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we won't really know until it goes down tbh
true, I just can't see Fredo the squaring up with him like that, but there are small ass dudes that can still get the job done like you said
I don't know who to believe
GhettoGamer
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Nice bookmarked the site so I can check it out later
andthebeatgoeson
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http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/m...ck=promo&src=spr_TWITTER&spr_id=1456_78014028
Why I don't buy into the idea that we cannot raise the minimum wage.
At some point, won't people just lash out? Won't they fight back? We have enough resources. Hell, you probably don't have to move your manufacturing to Asia. Unless you want a few more billion.
Why I don't buy into the idea that we cannot raise the minimum wage.
At some point, won't people just lash out? Won't they fight back? We have enough resources. Hell, you probably don't have to move your manufacturing to Asia. Unless you want a few more billion.
He does have that white face avatar.
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/
Not as lively as it us to be. Writer specific boards are interesting to say the least.
I imagine our thread is the GAF smoking area where mods come and take a break. Maybe have a jazz cigarette or two.
This true, but it's whitey I hate. See, I'm the worst sort of racist. Since non-whites can't be racist, I'm carrying all the anti-white racist power by myself.
It's a hard burden, but I won't let the ofay keep me down.
ViewtifulJC
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This might be the first time someone has used the word "ofay" in 21st century vernacular.
ofay
At some point, the middle class is probably going to stop pointing all their guns at each other and start pointing them at the wealthy and they're gonna just go take what they're owed. But we're not anywhere near there yet. Still too complacent.
Devolution
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That "yellow fever" thread sure is full of purposely not understanding the point.
Thanks for posting. I've been doing a lot of reading lately. Just finished reading Guns Germs and Steel by Jared diamond and Galveston by Nic Pizzolatto. Probably going to read some Murakami, but I'd like to read some black authors.
It never had a chance.
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