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The Black Culture Thread |OT7| Luigi took our stare
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Angelus Errare
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That's always been the case.
As for British TV is has it's own problems, granted I still think they're ahead of the US (not hard to imagine). Black men struggle to get roles; but on the flip side in an interview with Idris, many of the writers write their protagonist without much care for their ethnicity; before Idris Luther was suppose to be white then Neil Cross saw Idris Elba's acting and was determined that Idris be John Luther. I know on the show Utopia, Nathan Jarrett's character was suppose to be white and they simply made him the character and didn't change anything about said character to reflect the fact he's black.
On one hand I think that's better than our current status quo in the US where writers make sure to let viewers know "hey this is a black character! You can tell by how he stereotypical we made him!" and can reflect the fact that black people come from all walks of life and not just the assumptions that the media at large believe (we're all poor, ghetto, speak ebonics, etc); that we too can have the same upbringing as any other group of people.
My problem with black representation in video games is that we're always gang members, angry gun trottin thugs or basketball player. And in that sense I call bullshit on someone's inability to write a better black character because "that's all they know". You don't need to be black or even have interactions with black people to write a character who doesn't fall into such ridiculous 'archetypes'.
I'm willing to be the person who wrote Adwele wasn't black and probably didn't know many if any black people; yet he was able to craft a good character. Same with the person who wrote Aveline's character. And I also refuse to entertain any argument that these guys are simply some outlier/rare writers or any such shenanigans.
I don't know much about Native Americans, but I can sure as hell bet you that if you give me an encyclopedia/Wikipedia I can write a character that isn't some stereotypical Native American caricature who wears a headdress (despite not being the leader of a tribe) and drinks booze while talking to spirits. Again ignorance isn't an excuse in my opinion especially when something can be researched; point in case Connor from AC3. Ubisoft went and researched about local American tribes despite being a French team and not having any Native American writers/developers on staff.
TLDR - I think the argue of people simply writing what they know is a major cop out. That absolutely flies in the face of all the information we have available at our fingertips; you can basically know anything you want to because of the internet. All we're seeing is laziness.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Which is why she's my fav SF character. lol. Is she good in the latest edition?
how to win if you're not a gg character
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Angelus Errare
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Both Juri and Crimson Viper are SNK characters in a Capcom game really.
The designer even admitted that C.Viper was heavily SNK inspired.
Which only reinforces the known fact that SNK characters designs > Capcom characters designs.
Byakuya769
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No shortage of white characters when Japan was producing the bulk of the biggest game. A lot of games take place in completely fanciful places, don't need a bachelors in African-American studies to plop a well-rounded character with black features in that sort of game.
maybe, but theres no k9999 characters on the capcom side, and they stopped ingrid from becoming a thing, so theres that....but they desperately need more villains that arent cookie cutter designs. snk has that on lock
there's black then there's #measleyblack
Byakuya769
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Hahaha. Gotta pass the measley test, true.
n00bsauce87
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Extra late, but it's at L'enfant Plaza. There was construction in the mall for about a year. It's "officially" done but the stores are just coming back. This one included
Prototype Viktor
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Already been educated.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Cookie Cutter is Capcom's shtick.
I found her shit by simply highlighting a youtube comment and searching. I wish I hadn't though.
Nice body if that counts for anything.
Plus when we're talking about games like Mario Kart and Zelda, how much do you need to know about black culture anyway? I'm 102% sure Miyamoto has met more black people than giant monster turtles and mushrooms, with a 2% margin of error.
Prototype Viktor
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You write about who destroyed you and help entrench your sense of beauty (pale skin)
preach
Angelus Errare
Banned
We're talking character design, not gameplay. Juri definitely isn't far out/eccentric enough to be an Arksys design. Juri is so KoF; if you told me her purple flames were because of her Orochi blood, I wouldn't be shocked.
For real
I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels this way
Vanessa is leagues better than C. Viper . Them boxing skills
Design-wise? Yes she's Jolyne from JJBA. Gameplay wise? She's like a damn good mashup of May-Lee from KOF/Dong Hwan from Garou
Maaaaan Vanessa's the fucking best lol.
Design wise she has much more in common with Jolyne from Jojo's than any KoF character I seen.
Gameplay wise she's pretty much "street fighter!" with some visual spice. The character just stands mid screen throwing fireballs and counter poking the shit out of you.
and terry too
Angelus Errare
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Only thing she has in common with Jolyne is the hair bun and by that argument I can say she has more in common with Kim Kaphwan because they both do Taekwondo and wear a dobok. Or that she has more in common with Riot of the Blood Leona for obvious visual reasons.
Your second statement can apply to quite a number of KoF characters.
Marvin is a hero, he has never hurt a soul on or off the field.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Wow @ the smiley.
Those dudes shooting fucked up. lol.
>.>
Boss Riovane
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You cats talking minorities in video games.
All I can think of what happen to ole Jet Brody.
All I can think of what happen to ole Jet Brody.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Only Brody I know is the douche protagonist of Far Cry 3 aka Great White Savor.
I give you that but the second statement applies to most fighting game characters period. It's just that to me KoF characters are known for applying hop pressure and generally rushing that shit down. Juris gameplay has more in common with Guile or MBison than it does with a Kyo or Iori. But yeah visually she's supposed to be a bad guy, she's Korean, and her fighting style is taekwondo so yeah some similarities with Kim comes with the territory.
Someone recommend me some 80s/90s movies worth watching tomorrow. Got another 24 hour shift coming up tomorrow morning. Good action/ buddy cop/ horror would be appreciated
(planning to watch Season 1 of Heroes and most of The 100 too)
Far Cry 3 is still to this day the only game I've ever picked up preordered and returned in the same day. Put 13 hours in and took it back after making up every possible excuse I could for that crap.
(planning to watch Season 1 of Heroes and most of The 100 too)
Far Cry 3 is still to this day the only game I've ever picked up preordered and returned in the same day. Put 13 hours in and took it back after making up every possible excuse I could for that crap.
TheKaeptain
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And you smell yourself before others do.
He's supposedly the one with the wife and the girlfriend. By the numbers it would seem LonelyGAF are included among everyone else reacting with horror.
Are those the same people who don't use soap in the shower?
Angelus Errare
Banned
Macross Plus is always worth another viewing.
Perfect Blue
Jin-Roh
Spriggan
Battle Angel Alita
X
Patlabor 2
Armitage 3
I had to actively block out the entire story of FC3.
For real, the fact they can't take 15 minutes out of their nonexistent lives to shower is just ridiculous.
CrazyDogg77
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Damn rip to the shooters. If you shooting at Harvin you better shoot to kill
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Destiny is the truth brehs
Prototype Viktor
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Freeway
I truly feel it's the game that's going to finally open up this gen. Bless.
*cancels preorder*
I'll dig those up right now. I've had both sitting on my watch list forever. I've heard good things about Patlabor. Need to get around to that.
Seen everything else on that list except X, Armitage, and Spriggan.
I might be the only man alive who didn't like Macross Plus but loved the rest of the series.
Boss Riovane
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Battle Angel Alita was jam. Enjoyed Patlabor and Macross as well.
But got a special place for old shit like Angel Cop, Iria Zeiram, and Gunsmith Cats.
Jet Brody was the protag to Fracture. Basically if Kwame was in the future and fought in a futuristic civil war. And there was no Linka or Matee or Wheeler to help him out.
But got a special place for old shit like Angel Cop, Iria Zeiram, and Gunsmith Cats.
Jet Brody was the protag to Fracture. Basically if Kwame was in the future and fought in a futuristic civil war. And there was no Linka or Matee or Wheeler to help him out.
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