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Zeliard said:
:lol that is true
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:lol that is true
Captain Blood
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AniHawk said:
I really don't think anyone could make Catwoman a cool villain but if someone could it would be the brothers Nolan. I would hope for the Riddler or perhaps since Batman is wanted it would be interesting if in the eyes of the public Batman was the villain and the villain was the hero.
TheHeretic
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Catwoman sucks, I hope to hell they don't put her in the next one.
Captain Blood
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Yea your right I take back what I said, I am pretty sure there is no way that she could make an interesting villain.
Greatness Gone
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She wasn't a villain, but Pfeiffer was amazing in Returns. Best person in a comic book role, until Ledger came along.Cap7ain Blood said:
Cool Hand Luke
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Shia LaBeouf as Robin!!!
It pretty much has to be the Riddler, doesn't it? I think Catwoman would fit in the Nolan universe, but she isn't exactly a villain. Nolan could probably make the love-hate dynamic between Catwoman and Batman very interesting, though, which is why I wouldn't be totally adverse to seeing her in the next one. I still think they need a proper antagonist, though. And that guy is the Riddler. It has to be. And while they're very different characters, he's the easiest to somehow link to the Joker.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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If you look at the thread where the Heath=Joker news came out, everybody was saying, "GET JOHNNY DEPP! HE'D BE PERFECT FOR THE JOKER!" Now, everybody is saying, "RIDDLER? JOHNNY DEPP!!!"
Seriously, Johnny Depp IS an amazing actor, but it's not like he's the only person that can play quirky characters in movies. Hell, I'd rather Nolan went the other way and cast somebody out of left field like he did with Ledger. The more famous a person, the harder it'd be to separate them from their character. Depp would probably not suffer this too badly, though; he can look completely different in just about every role, given the right makeup. Still, though, I think that a completely strange casting choice for the next villain, whoever it may be, would be my ideal.
Seriously, Johnny Depp IS an amazing actor, but it's not like he's the only person that can play quirky characters in movies. Hell, I'd rather Nolan went the other way and cast somebody out of left field like he did with Ledger. The more famous a person, the harder it'd be to separate them from their character. Depp would probably not suffer this too badly, though; he can look completely different in just about every role, given the right makeup. Still, though, I think that a completely strange casting choice for the next villain, whoever it may be, would be my ideal.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Fuck Depp as The Riddler. Get Guy Pearce.
JPBrowncoat
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Oh shit that would be so incredible. And Richard is the mayor! :lolZeliard said:
JPBrowncoat said:
I've now convinced myself that it has to be Michael Emerson. It's just so..... perfect. He's exactly the right type of actor to make it work beautifully, and he looks the part, too.
And he'll be in the film with Richard the "Immortal" as Mayor Eyeliner, of course. :lol
Mike Works
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they moved the island to gotham city 
Greatness Gone
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Jake Gyllenhaal as Robin. Yes bitches. Yes. Jesus. Both of them living together and fighting crime in big plastic suits. <3
SCULLIBUNDO
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Michael Emerson is a Robert Patrick wannabe. THERE I SAID IT.
Greatness Gone
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And is it me, or does he have absolutely no vocal range? Can't change his creepy ass voice for any role.Scullibundo said:
Randy Lanzarote
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In memory of Burton's sequel.
At first, I really that it was the best film of all time, but when I cooled down and started thinking about it and reading some of the points people pointed out, I think it might not be the best thing ever, but it certainly is one of the best of all time.
I didn't have any complaints really, but I can understand some of the ones people posted.
I didn't have any complaints really, but I can understand some of the ones people posted.
Battersea Power Station
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In any other movie I would've seen the pencil trick and take it for granted, but with this Joker, I can just imagine him killing 10 dudes or so just to practice the timing.altaz said:
travisbickle
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The riddler for the next movie, and it's presumed that it's that dude who knows batman's true identity from the riddles left behind at crime scenes but the riddler's killed that dude after he found out his info.
I seriously think they'll do an ensemble cast of villains if they do a third film for two reasons.
1. They'll never top Ledgers performance so any similar set up will be unfavourably compared to TDK.
2. It'll be the last one, which means the focus will be on Batmans mission to save Gotham being complete. Batman will be beaten, and Gotham (with Gordons new corruption free police department) will prove it can take care of itself. We'll get to find out whether or not Wayne can put down the mask.
(I go back and forth on this but I'd love Wayne to admit he needs Batman and refuse to quit, but leave Gotham and have the final shot of the movie being Batman taking down a mugger as the camera pans up to show the daily planet globe leering over him).
1. They'll never top Ledgers performance so any similar set up will be unfavourably compared to TDK.
2. It'll be the last one, which means the focus will be on Batmans mission to save Gotham being complete. Batman will be beaten, and Gotham (with Gordons new corruption free police department) will prove it can take care of itself. We'll get to find out whether or not Wayne can put down the mask.
(I go back and forth on this but I'd love Wayne to admit he needs Batman and refuse to quit, but leave Gotham and have the final shot of the movie being Batman taking down a mugger as the camera pans up to show the daily planet globe leering over him).
Witchfinder General
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I hope the Nolans get a proper script writer for the next film (if they have to make another redundant Batman film) because whilst the Nolans can direct and have great eyes their scripts are pretty woeful.
See their awful adaptation of Christopher Priest's book, The Prestige.
See their awful adaptation of Christopher Priest's book, The Prestige.
beelzebozo
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uh? so far as i can tell, the script was pretty fantastic for tdk, especially on a structural/thematic level. the care taken to make each key character somehow parallel bruce wayne, but in a way that was not perfunctory or altogether obvious (see the batman-joker comparisons done by some very astute posters in this thread--some of these even caught me off guard) was extremely well done, and took a light touch. i guess i just completely disagree about what makes a good script, or what you would have wanted it to be beyond what it is. you have a script writer who's been more successful at writing this kind of movie who would be good for the job?
JzeroT1437
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Witchfinder General said:
I've read The Prestige and seen the movie--and I gotta say I preferred the movie. It was a lot less bloated.
The Librarian
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Imma going to go see it again this weekend.
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
Zombie James
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zewone said:
Aaaaaack, spoiler! Damnit, and i'm on the last issue, too.
Masked Man
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AniHawk said:
Fixed.
Witchfinder General said:
[insertkevinspacey]
I have admittedly never seen The Prestige, but I've seen TDK, and that is certainly a fine script. The film really redefines the concept of good-versus-evil by playing it off of the idea of "morality"; the film goes a step furter, though, by incorporating societal expectations--both those of the society in which the characters reside (where Batman is seen as a morally-obscure vigilante whose actions seem dangerously above the law) as well as our own (where Batman is seen as the Caped Crusader, the most purely "good" hero around).
Pakkidis said:
You know, quite a few people have said that the movie should've ended on somewhat of a cliffhanger note, where Joker turns Harvey into Two-Face. So I decided to do a little bit of editing, remix some scenes and whatnot to see how that'd look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlr4IodXFM8
Witchfinder General
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Masked Man said:Fixed.
[insertkevinspacey]
I have admittedly never seen The Prestige, but I've seen TDK, and that is certainly a fine script. The film really redefines the concept of good-versus-evil by playing it off of the idea of "morality"; the film goes a step furter, though, by incorporating societal expectations--both those of the society in which the characters reside (where Batman is seen as a morally-obscure vigilante whose actions seem dangerously above the law) as well as our own (where Batman is seen as the Caped Crusader, the most purely "good" hero around).
I disagree. The movie presented all the characters as straight up black and white portrayals of good & evil. And the movie kept ricocheting between a stern warning of 'justice' at any cost and that villains can not be saved or reasoned with. And lets not forget the conflicted dichotomy that people can make their own fate and then in the end reducing them down to cattle that need to be steered for their own good.
Nazgul_Hunter
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Witchfinder General said:
Yes, Harvey Dent - Two Face was obviously black and white; as was Batman breaking bones and basically wire tapping the entire city.
A major theme in the movie was the moral implications of doing questionable thing to do an ultimate good, and I'd say that's also a major theme of Batman in general as he is an outlaw; a criminal that stops other criminals. The cellphones was one; Gordon having to rely on possibly corrupt or otherwise compromised cops; heck, even Alfred burning a forest down to smoke out a thief. The Joker was the only straight up black & white character in the movie, and that has more to do with the character than with just the movie.
Randy Lanzarote
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AniHawk said:
People would have thrown things at the screen if that is what happened.
Maybe they could use that ending though for a 'special director's cut'... for people who can't concentrate for more than 100 minutes at a time.
Instigator
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AniHawk said:
I approve, and it reminds me of the alternative ending of Batman 1989.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NSiocfFmMGo
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