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[Domino Theory]

What does GAF think? Watch TDK for a third time?

 

[Exclamation-One]

Awesome shot. Dissapointed that Part from the Wizard Trailer was cut from the movie.

Looks to be outside the Police Station.
Could be Batman taking a shortcut out the window, over the cars, and onto the BatPod for Rachel.

Blu-Ray Extended/Deleted plz

Batman jumping on police cars was probably cut because it wouldn't make any damn sense. :lol

I mean, I'm assuming Batman just used the door like everyone else, or did he blow out another wall to get out? :lol :lol :lol

Edit: And Maggie Gyllenhall looks great in all of those shots. What happened in the movie? I hope Maggie doesn't become the next Carrie Ann Moss.

 

[BocoDragon]

Let's face it very few movies are really all that deep. What makes a movie appear as deep and intelligent is a script and performance that make you, the viewer, read into the world and characters see things that are, in the film, not clearly presented to you. A good film can make people go far beyond the intentions of the writers or actors in debating and drawing symbolism.

I think the Dark Knight does this. In my opinion, some people are suffering a little from "it's a comic book movie, and I'm not going to go in with the same mindset as a "serious crime thriller", and that's really hurting their appreciation of the film.

I'd say TDK is the first case where we really have a superhero comic book adapted into a "real film". It's like a movie based on literature.. no one would assume it's just a cheap cash-in or watered down version of the original. A movie Hamlet could be the definitive Hamlet. Comics have now arrived at this level.

 

[Battersea Power Station]

...that being said stay away from the gaming side when it comes to GAF hype.

Real hype should be based on majority. Anything else is an "appreciation thread." So when you warn people to stay away from hype, you're most likely warning the people that are hyping the product in question. Doesn't make too much sense.

Anyway, you and Mar_ should do like me: stay away from any and all impressions. The best way to go into a movie is with a blank mindset.

I didn't read anyone's opinion on TDK. In fact, I told my friends who had seen it opening night not to tell me how much they like or dislike it.

It might seem like overboard spoiler-phobia to most of you, but I love a fresh experience. I just want me in the seat and the director's vision on the screen; no outside influences.

 

[armubaba]

What does GAF think? Watch TDK for a third time?

Pfft, just three?

At least four.

 

[BocoDragon]

Real hype should be based on majority. Anything else is an "appreciation thread." So when you warn people to stay away from hype, you're most likely warning the people that are hyping the product in question. Doesn't make too much sense.

Anyway, you and Mar_ should do like me: stay away from any and all impressions. The best way to go into a movie is with a blank mindset.

I didn't read anyone's opinion on TDK. In fact, I told my friends who had seen it opening night not to tell me how much they like or dislike it.

It might seem like overboard spoiler-phobia to most of you, but I love a fresh experience. I just want me in the seat and the director's vision on the screen; no outside influences.

I agree with this... but I have to say if it wasn't for the positive buzz I wouldn't have seen it at all. I hated Begins and I don't care much for the theaters these days. GAF sold me on it based on the mega appreciation. I didn't spoil details though...

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

Random note: I like how they showed Harvey Dent being daring and filled with energy and rage before he turned into Two Face. Makes you believe the change could happen.

Absolutely, I'm glad they didn't go for the "I'm a genuine nice guy, I'm a genuine nice guy, I'm a genuine RRRRRAGH EVIL NOW".

I was hoping that they'd take some inspiration from the the two-face origin story in the animated series, showing that before the disfigurement he still had a dark side to him and was capable of bursting into fits of rage. And Nolan didn't disappoint (in fact I was listening to an interview with Jonah Nolan where he talks about the animated series two-face story and how it helped them shape two-face)

 

[master15]

I hope Maggie doesn't become the next Carrie Ann Moss.

What does that mean?

 

[dalyr95]

Also, I was thinking about the end. In a way, Batman had to take responsibility for those killings, as Marconi told him, they know his ways, they know his limits. If the crooks believe Batman is lethal, they will fear him again.

 

[Ginko]

I wanna point one thing out for those who thought that Rachel went to Bruce's place because it's safe forgetting that The Joker broke in the other night. Well, of you listen carefully, she said "Bruce's penthouse" and the place the joker broke into was the manor, not the penthouse.

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

I wanna point one thing out for those who thought that Rachel went to Bruce's place because it's safe forgetting that The Joker broke in the other night. Well, of you listen carefully, she said "Bruce's penthouse" and the place the joker broke into was the manor, not the penthouse.

No, it was the penthouse that the Joker broke into. Wayne Manor is still being rebuilt remember, Alfred reminds us after he finds Bruce in his new makeshift batcave. Unless of course his new manor is in the middle of town, on the top floor of a high rise building, with its own helipad.... :/

As for this discussion over why Rachel went there..... its Batman's penthouse! I'd hang out there too if the Joker was after me, but she can't say to Harvey "Oh its ok, Bruce is Batman so he'll protect me".

I bet there is a scene on the cutting room floor after the party where Bruce is seen beefing up security, and police are putting guards on the front door... that would make a lot more sense given what Rachel has said. Instead we have to assume that since the break-in Bruce has taken a few extra measures with personal security detail, which is why Rachel uses the excuse that its now the safest place in the city.

 

[roosters93]

Nice pickup.
Also Bruce's manor was sort of open when the Joker broke in.
He could lock it down or always go down to the basement if needed.

Awesome.

 

[burito123]

The only complaint I could POSSIBLY have about TDK: Bale's Batman voice. I know it's part of the character, I know he needs to separate himself from Bruce Wayne, and I know it's meant to be intimating, but I just thought it was WAY too much 90% of the time (I had no problems with it at all in BB). There were a few lines where I literally didn't understand what he was saying because it was so forced and throaty.

i agree completely like you said it supposed to be with the character and intimidating but its too much...and btw the movie was freaking awesome

 

[The Blue Jihad]

(Calvin and Hobbes brilliance)

Just wanted to quote this (again?) because there can never be too much Calvin and Hobbes.

 

[Outcast2004]

What does that mean?

Do a huge blockbuster movie and then fade away into oblivion.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Personally, I can't take criticism that stems from the media hyping a movie up too much seriously. When I see a movie, I see it. I'm not going to blame it for other people's impressions.

 

[Zeliard]

Personally, I can't take criticism that stems from the media hyping a movie up too much seriously. When I see a movie, I see it. I'm not going to blame it for other people's impressions.

Exactly. Anti-hype can, and usually does, get more overblown than hype. People end up hating on the movie for reasons having absolutely nothing to do with its content. This applies to other mediums as well, like video games (hello GTAIV).

 

[legend166]

Just one little thing I loved:

In the tape of the Joker and the fake Batman, the way the Joker says "No?" when he asks if he's the real Batman.

So good.

 

[Darko]

Just one little thing I loved:

In the tape of the Joker and the fake Batman, the way the Joker says "No?" when he asks if he's the real Batman.

So good.

Shush SHush SHuhs SHUSH SHUSH!

Awesome.

 

[Zeliard]

That pic of Batman slugging Joker across the face is awesome. We need that in high-res.

 

[eLGee]

Just one little thing I loved:

In the tape of the Joker and the fake Batman, the way the Joker says "No?" when he asks if he's the real Batman.

So good.

I loved the way he asked Bryan, in a childlike manner:
"Are you the real Batman?" :lol

 

[Masked Man]

Just one little thing I loved:

In the tape of the Joker and the fake Batman, the way the Joker says "No?" when he asks if he's the real Batman.

So good.

I could watch that scene for hours.

 

[Darko]

i agree completely like you said it supposed to be with the character and intimidating but its too much...and btw the movie was freaking awesome

I didnt mind the voice most of the time, except when he talks for more then 5 words.
"you either... die ..... a hero......................................or live long.............enough........... to become a........villan" :lol

I hated the SWAT guys dialogue in the main action sequence (tunnel) and part with the kids..

 

[Frank the Great]

Awesome, new desktop background for me!

More hi-res pics, plz!

 

[AmMortal]

Shush SHush SHuhs SHUSH SHUSH!

Guatanamo Bay..

Spoiler

or is GOTHAMO BAY

:O

 

[The Blue Jihad]

Loving the theme of a purging fire. Ra's talked about burning the forest down in BB. Alfred caught the bandit by burning the forest down. Joker just wants to watch the world burn.

Something's gotta come from all of this set-up.

 

[AniHawk]

Loving the theme of a purging fire. Ra's talked about burning the forest down in BB. Alfred caught the bandit by burning the forest down. Joker just wants to watch the world burn.

Something's gotta come from all of this set-up.

I was so tired watching it the first time that I didn't make the connection between "some men want to watch the world burn" and "we burned the bloody forest down."

 

[Zeliard]

So we're all pretty much agree on Michael Emerson as the Riddler, if it can't be Johnny Depp, yes? Yes? Cool.

I have the information that you need, John. I have the answers.

 

[AmMortal]

Don't know which one is funnier.:lol

 

[fallengorn]

So we're all pretty much agree on Michael Emerson as the Riddler, if it can't be Johnny Depp, yes? Yes? Cool.

Actually I'd prefer Michael Emerson.

"Oh, I know all about you, Bruce. Born on October 23, 1971. Son to Thomas and Martha Wayne, both tragically killed, in front of your eyes, behind a theater. After attended Princeton for a few semesters, returned to Gotham only to drop off the face of the earth just when your parents killer is shot down. Seven years later you return from the dead, and gain control of Wayne Enterprises... just around the time a certain masked crusader makes his appearance. Well, that's certainly a coincidence, 'ey Bruce?"

 

[Zeliard]

Actually I'd prefer Michael Emerson.

"Oh, I know all about you, Bruce... Born on October 23, 1971. Son to Thomas and Martha Wayne, both tragically killed, in front of your eyes, behind a theater. After attended Princeton for a few semesters, returned to Gotham only to drop off the face of the earth just when your parents killer is shot down. Seven years later you return from the dead, and gain control of Wayne Enterprises... just around the time a certain masked crusader makes his appearance. Well, that's certainly a coincidence, 'ey Bruce?"

If you think about it, Emerson basically is the Riddler in Lost. He's extremely intelligent and calculating, continually makes cryptic, undecipherable remarks, knows considerably more than he lets on, constantly manipulates those around him through very clever wordplay, and often leads the survivors on wild goose chases.

The man was simply born to play the role.

 

[Darko]

Actually I'd prefer Michael Emerson.

"Oh, I know all about you, Bruce. Born on October 23, 1971. Son to Thomas and Martha Wayne, both tragically killed, in front of your eyes, behind a theater. After attended Princeton for a few semesters, returned to Gotham only to drop off the face of the earth just when your parents killer is shot down. Seven years later you return from the dead, and gain control of Wayne Enterprises... just around the time a certain masked crusader makes his appearance. Well, that's certainly a coincidence, 'ey Bruce?"

:lol

 

[The Blue Jihad]

I was so tired watching it the first time that I didn't make the connection between "some men want to watch the world burn" and "we burned the bloody forest down."

It's a neat consistency, but what I'm far more interested in is the apparent persistent theme going on. The idea of a "necessary purge" is coming from a variety of radically different characters. Some of these characters are good, some aren't so pleasant. Yet the underlying message is the same: destroy it to save it. Ra's operates out of that principle. Alfred operates out of that principle. Joker does. Batman does. Dent does.

It's strange, but has me all the more excited to see where things go from here.

 

[Skiptastic]

That picture reminds me, someone needs to take that smiley, put a little bloodsplat on it, and make it like the Watchmen logo.

 

[JimiNutz]

Emerson would make a fantastic Riddler. As others have said he pretty much plays the part perfectly already on Lost. Great call whoever originally suggested it. I don't want to see Depp prancing around in a Nolan Batman movie. He's a great actor but based on his previous performances (especially the recent ones) I don't really see him fitting into the universes that Nolan has set him Batman in.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

I think we can all agree that, whatever they do, Michael Emerson should be in the next film. Even if it's Catwoman.



Spread the word, GAF. Far and wide. NOLAN MUST KNOW.

 

[Prime crotch]

I think we can all agree that, whatever they do, Michael Emerson should be in the next film. Even if it's Catwoman.



Spread the word, GAF. Far and wide. NOLAN MUST KNOW.

We would never had Ledger Joker if Nolan had heard the fans, so I say let him be. We do't even know what villains the new movie will feature.

 

[AniHawk]

We would never had Ledger Joker if Nolan had heard the fans, so I say let him be. We do't even know what villains the new movie will feature.

Anarky.

Joker says, "Introduce a little anarchy," and as we all know, Anarky is a kid.

 

[Solo]

So the Hong Kong scenes were shot day-for-night eh? Interesting! Makes me wonder how much of the film was shot this way.

 

[JimiNutz]

Anarky.

Joker says, "Introduce a little anarchy," and as we all know, Anarky is a kid.

I'd never even heard of Anarky but just did a little research on the character. I understand the character is inspired by Alan Moore’s 'V' and, minus the costume, I can see him being a good fit.

I originally suggested that I'd like to see the Reaper in the next film simply because I want to see a rival vigilante for Batman. They already briefly explored the idea of copycat vigilantes in TDK but I'd like to see a more fleshed out version. This Anarky character looks like he could do that.

 

[Masked Man]

I don't bother watching LOST because I think it's kind of bland and just drawn out too long, but all this talk of Michael Emerson made me think of his time as the utterly evil and totally creepy Mr. Hinks on The Practice.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=emholnsedi4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gjxNMUgv07s

THAT is an actor perfectly suited for the Nolanverse.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

So the Hong Kong scenes were shot day-for-night eh? Interesting! Makes me wonder how much of the film was shot this way.

They may have just been practicing during the day. I remember they asked Hong Kong residents to keep their lights on at night, so the scene would look more glorious than it already did.

 

[itsinmyveins]

The ending was awesome, with the dark knight talk and all that. The thing that mainly bothered me with the movie was Batmans voice. It felt a bit too much.

 

[y2dvd]

They could've shot the Hong Kong scene during the day. If you watch the behind-the-scenes in Se7en, the last scene was shot in blue skies, but edited to appear night.

I must be the only one that actually liked Batman's voice. =\

 

[Solo]

They could've shot the Hong Kong scene during the day. If you watch the behind-the-scenes in Se7en, the last scene was shot in blue skies, but edited to appear night.

Thats why I asked. A lot films do this nowadays - shooting day-for-night. 28 Weeks Later's "night" scenes were shot entirely during the daytime, for example.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I see the symbolism in this shot that Batman is perched above the law.

Spoiler

Yeah, it's kinda corny, but true.

 

[jett]

The Batman voice grew on me with consecutive viewings. No longer a problem.

 

[Escape Goat]

The Batman voice grew on me with consecutive viewings. No longer a problem.

if you're seeing a movie multiple times at the theater Im guessing you're more willing to accept its flaws.

 

[AmMortal]

Spoiler

To me TDK is the MGS4 of movies

:O

 

[JimiNutz]

I see the symbolism in this shot that Batman is perched above the law.

Spoiler

Yeah, it's kinda corny, but true.

Not only is he above the law, but he also looks like he's about to shit all over it-set up for the third film?

:lol