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The Dark Knight SPOILER THREAD

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is it wrong and stupid of me that every time this thread is updated i come running in thinking there will be news about part 3 and how nolan is on board?
 
DMczaf said:
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Hi Mom! :lol
 
effzee said:
is it wrong and stupid of me that every time this thread is updated i come running in thinking there will be news about part 3 and how nolan is on board?
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yes. pretty sure we won't be hearing about the third movie until at least 2009.
 
effzee said:
is it wrong and stupid of me that every time this thread is updated i come running in thinking there will be news about part 3 and how nolan is on board?
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Dude it's gonna happen, don't worry about it mang
 
Pai Pai Master said:
No. Standard is one-disc, special is two.
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Hmm... cause the thing is, I am getting this at Futureshop and even their regular release (when zoomed in) says "2-Disc Special Edition" yet not mentioned in the website itself (They don't have two-disc special edition). The reason I'm getting from Futureshop is that they have the Steelbook edition which I'm hoping is 2-disc.
 
Let me get this straight, if I want it on Blu ray but want all the extras, I have to buy that lame bike toy set?
 
Gouty said:
Let me get this straight, if I want it on Blu ray but want all the extras, I have to buy that lame bike toy set?
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No thats the super special blu-ray version or whatever. The normal blu-ray has the extras too. Sans the bat-bike.
 
Buckethead said:
No thats the super special blu-ray version or whatever. The normal blu-ray has the extras too. Sans the bat-bike.
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That's what I am asking. If the normal version has all the extras, then it's 2-disc, but I am told the opposite. I don't want them bike.
 
shagg_187 said:
Fucking awesome! So i guess every release is 2-disc. That said, I'll get the steelbook if it really is :D

Here's what I'm talking about by the way:

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/products/large/dvd2159389.jpg

Iron Man was 2-disc so hopefully this is too...
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Ahh gotcha, not sure about the steel books though.
But correct, every Blu-Ray release is 2 Discs (1 for Blu Ray of movie, extras + 1 hi-res Digital Copy).

However there is two different single disc standard DVD release (1 standard, 1 widescreen) but also a 2-disc Special Edition.

So there are 5 SKUs: 2 of them for Blu-Ray releases, 3 of them for Standard DVD releases.

Confusing, I know. Fuckin' cash cowing Warner Bros.
 
effzee said:
is it wrong and stupid of me that every time this thread is updated i come running in thinking there will be news about part 3 and how nolan is on board?
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I'd like to think we'd make a new thread at that point. It's what I'd do.
 
Buckethead said:
Ahh gotcha, not sure about the steel books though.
But correct, every Blu-Ray release is 2 Discs (1 for Blu Ray of movie, extras + 1 hi-res Digital Copy).

However there is two different single disc standard DVD release (1 standard, 1 widescreen) but also a 2-disc Special Edition.

So there are 5 SKUs: 2 of them for Blu-Ray releases, 3 of them for Standard DVD releases.

Confusing, I know. Fuckin' cash cowing Warner Bros.
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You wouldn't do the same to one of the biggest movies of the past decade.
 
No clue, I don't even know if that's the actual blu-ray case or mock up...I just want it. I'm crazy for TDK and Steel Book cases, both and I'd go mad.
 
the movie going from the IMAX hasn't bothered me while watching the movie on Blu-Ray. The PQ is really good..they do a great job at making it look amazing with it being dark a lot. Any other questions feel free to ask.
 
I know it's probably been said time and time again, but man, it sucks that Ledger passed away. He did an absolutely amazing job playing the character; dare I say his Joker makes Nicholson's look like a bad joke. With Heath's passing, it raises the question... Who/how will they ever have the character appear again in a future movie? I mean you're talking about finding someone with the same look, the same delivery and the same presence. I simply don't think it can be done and that really sucks.

If Heath gets an Oscar for that role, he deserves it; dead or not. That man nailed the role.

As an aside, the lucky bastard who already has the Blu-ray got it from Warner Home Video's site. I figured what the hell and ordered a copy myself. Maybe I'll get lucky too.
 
bumpkin said:
I know it's probably been said time and time again, but man, it sucks that Ledger passed away. He did an absolutely amazing job playing the character; dare I say his Joker makes Nicholson's look like a bad joke. With Heath's passing, it raises the question... Who/how will they ever have the character appear again in a future movie? I mean you're talking about finding someone with the same look, the same delivery and the same presence. I simply don't think it can be done and that really sucks.

If Heath gets an Oscar for that role, he deserves it; dead or not. That man nailed the role.
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They could do the Arkham Asylum route and make it so he reinvents himself to fit the world around him.
 
bumpkin said:
dare I say his Joker makes Nicholson's look like a bad joke..
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I know I may take a lot of flack for this, but I'm with you: Nicholson's Joker sucked. It was horrible.

The movie may have done a lot of good "in it's day" but contemporarily, it doesn't stand up. There are oh so many reasons for this. Firstly, film making has matured with the growth of technology and other factors and the expectation of the audience along with it.

But about Jack's performance as the Joker: he's a joke. A walking punchline. He was funny, but he was in no way, shape or form threatening. A villain can be funny, likable, but never non-threatening.

The reason Ledgers/Nolans/Goyers/etc. Joker was so great was because he was so funny and thus likable (and far more layered and interesting that Jack's) but then when he got violent, psychotic, the audience was torn because he "wasn't that bad" in the beginning. He goes from "likeable but misunderstood" to "murderous and sinister". This grinds on the emotions of the audience because this guy they liked went to the dark side, thus forcing them to engage in the villian's motivation/persona, and engage further into the story and believe completely in the world. It's real, it's human.

Listen, I have tremendous for Jack and his work. Most recently he proved in "The Departed" that he can still pull off a great villian. His performance as Frank in The Departed is everything that he should have been in 1989. Occasionally goofy, but never at the expense of sacrificing believability and credibility.

But Jack as The Joker in the 1989 film was a comic book character in a graphic novel world.


P.S. Oscar for Ledger agreed, not for death phenomena, but the quality of the performance. It was transcendent.
 
Buckethead said:
I know I may take a lot of flack for this, but I'm with you: Nicholson's Joker sucked. It was horrible.

The movie may have done a lot of good "in it's day" but contemporarily, it doesn't stand up. There are oh so many reasons for this. Firstly, film making has matured with the growth of technology and other factors and the expectation of the audience along with it.

But about Jack's performance as the Joker: he's a joke. A walking punchline. He was funny, but he was in no way, shape or form threatening. A villain can be funny, likable, but never non-threatening.

The reason Ledgers/Nolans/Goyers/etc. Joker was so great was because he was so funny and thus likable (and far more layered and interesting that Jack's) but then when he got violent, psychotic, the audience was torn because he "wasn't that bad" in the beginning. He goes from "likeable but misunderstood" to "murderous and sinister". This grinds on the emotions of the audience because this guy they liked went to the dark side, thus forcing them to engage in the villian's motivation/persona, and engage further into the story and believe completely in the world. It's real, it's human.

Listen, I have tremendous for Jack and his work. Most recently he proved in "The Departed" that he can still pull off a great villian. His performance as Frank in The Departed is everything that he should have been in 1989. Occasionally goofy, but never at the expense of sacrificing believability and credibility.

But Jack as The Joker in the 1989 film was a comic book character in a graphic novel world.


P.S. Oscar for Ledger agreed, not for death phenomena, but the quality of the performance. It was transcendent.
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I agree. The only other Joker to make it to the big screen that deserves mentioning alongside Heath Ledger's is Mark Hammil's.
 
Buckethead said:
I know I may take a lot of flack for this, but I'm with you: Nicholson's Joker sucked. It was horrible.
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I totally agree; Jack Nicholson just played Jack Nicholson, not the Joker. But about this:

The reason Ledgers/Nolans/Goyers/etc. Joker was so great was because he was so funny and thus likable (and far more layered and interesting that Jack's) but then when he got violent, psychotic, the audience was torn because he "wasn't that bad" in the beginning. He goes from "likeable but misunderstood" to "murderous and sinister".
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WTF? How the fuck was Ledger's Joker at any point "likable"? He's introduced by cold-bloodedly offing his accomplices at the bank without a moment's hesitation, then he walks into the gangster meeting and slams a pencil through a guy's eyeball. I don't buy that he's supposed to start off as "funny and likable"; from the first scene, he's ripping through the film like the shark in Jaws (Nolan's analogy) as a depraved, sadistic killer. More than anything, I think the opening bank heist (by itself a spectacular piece of filmmaking) immediately sets up that the Joker is in no way the cackling, prank-pulling comedian of 1989. There's no transition to that point, he just is that murderous.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
How can one organize an online viewing party over bluray? Do bluray discs work on normal computers? I don't follow.
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Bluray disc requires bluray player. If you have bought bluray player on your PC or if it's built-in then yes, it will work. A regular DVD-ROM present in PC will not play this.
 
faceless007 said:
WTF? How the fuck was Ledger's Joker at any point "likable"? He's introduced by cold-bloodedly offing his accomplices at the bank without a moment's hesitation, then he walks into the gangster meeting and slams a pencil through a guy's eyeball. I don't buy that he's supposed to start off as "funny and likable"; from the first scene, he's ripping through the film like the shark in Jaws (Nolan's analogy) as a depraved, sadistic killer. More than anything, I think the opening bank heist (by itself a spectacular piece of filmmaking) immediately sets up that the Joker is in no way the cackling, prank-pulling comedian of 1989. There's no transition to that point, he just is that murderous.
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This is exactly what I was thinking. He was an evil fucker from the beginning.
 
faceless007 said:
But about this:

How the fuck was Ledger's Joker at any point "likable"?
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Not "likable" as in morally good, upstart gentleman. He immediately has a very cool, effortless swagger about him. The opening scene is indeed incredible and in it he proves he's clever, cunning, funny, ironic. Hence "likable".

You don't really take him very seriously whacking the baddies in the bank scene nor do you in the meeting with Gambol and the other crimelords. Before that part he was just an awesome bank robber that you wanted to get the cash (ala Heat, obviously). Then he does the completely awesome pencil trick, which while blocked fantastically and was very brutal, you laughed. He's consistently funny and magnetic to watch but still mysterious. You don't really know anything about him. So you go with it as "violent, but hilarious".

Then shit gets real during the scene at night with Gambol and "wanna know how I got these scars", "why so serious", "lets put a smile on that face", etc. He shows his true colors: murderous, insane, graphically violent.

Agreed with the bank scene setting up the Joker and it being vastly different than the 1989 version right off the bat. It's much more serious, but at the same time he's not doing his worst. He's showing brains and it's not until the Gambol scene where he reveals his bite. Then he starts ripping through the film like the shark from Jaws.

So maybe "likable" isn't a 100% perfect term but hopefully you get the sentiment.
 
shagg_187 said:
Bluray disc requires bluray player. If you have bought bluray player on your PC or if it's built-in then yes, it will work. A regular DVD-ROM present in PC will not play this.
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Damn. Damn blu-ray's superior capabilities to hell!
 
Talladega Knight said:
This is exactly what I was thinking. He was an evil fucker from the beginning.
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The fact that he stayed cheerful and carefree in an "I just don't give a fuck" kind of way actually made him that much scarier. I thought his character was terrifying.
 
GhaleonEB said:
The fact that he stayed cheerful and carefree in an "I just don't give a fuck" kind of way actually made him that much scarier. I thought his character was terrifying.
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The fact that he was simply incombatable was what was so terrifying. It got to a point where you could believe they could nuke Gotham to kill him and the fucker would still one up you.:lol
 
shagg_187 said:
I travelled 1.5 hour to get that damn Iron Man Steelbook! Hopefully I won't have to travel for this one.

Oh and here's the 2-Disc DVD steelbook:

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even better without all that blu-ray insignia shit on it.:D
 
Dead said:
Are these Steelbooks Best Buy exclusives?
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Futureshop (Canada - Blu-ray/DVD)
Amazon (Germany - Blu-ray/DVD)
FYE (US - DVD only)

Scullibundo said:
What do I have to do to get that? Is there a 2disc version with that or do I have to join Barbie's funhouse and batpod garage?
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Cheapassgamer/highdefdigest.com is your best bet. They are having a "pre-order" list where users pay a reliable person (for example: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5125949) and they ship it to you when it comes out.
 
Haunted said:
Just saw the movie for the first time. I was pretty sure I was going to hate it like I did Batman Begins. Even had some snarky comments in mind already and was prepared to face the GAF wrath.


It fucking blew me away. Wow, just wow.
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It's definitely a movie I would like to see again for the first time.
 
Scullibundo said:
I still think thebatpod cover looks shitty. Give me the burning bat-sign in the building.
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Agreed. It's pretty much my least favorite poster.


I'd really like to meet the guy who came up with that concept. "Alright, for this poster, I'm envisioning this scene not in the movie at all, where Batman rides his bat pod down from the heavens and onto the side of a building, thusly shredding the building's frame with his rubber, anti-gravity tires."
 
FYE is getting them as well.

And this may be the first movie I double dip, I have yet to get a BlueRay player, but I will probably be buying both DVD and BlueRay Steelbooks when they come out for when I finally do make the long-awaited purchase.
 
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