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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again

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Tawpgun

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While I appreciate them grounding the clothing in reality with a common theme, most pieces look crazy similar and all have dark/muted colors with a few red/white jacket exceptions.

I think full game will be better. They already have bonus national guard, nypd, fdny, sanitation worker etc for preordering and other stuff.

Keep the winter theme but give me more options like flashier snowboard outfits or other uniforms from different jobs. Hell id even wear some kind of suit with a nice trench coat.
 
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Flintty

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Tawpgun said:
While I appreciate them grounding the clothing in reality with a common theme, most pieces look crazy similar and all have dark/muted colors with a few red/white jacket exceptions.

I think full game will be better. They already have bonus national guard, nypd, fdny, sanitation worker etc for preordering and other stuff.

Keep the winter theme but give me more options like flashier snowboard outfits or other uniforms from different jobs. Hell id even wear some kind of suit with a nice trench coat.
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I've got my look sorted!
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Damn right they better have a Duncan's Toy Chest for me to smash the windows on...
 
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Tecnniqe

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Tawpgun said:
While I appreciate them grounding the clothing in reality with a common theme, most pieces look crazy similar and all have dark/muted colors with a few red/white jacket exceptions.

I think full game will be better. They already have bonus national guard, nypd, fdny, sanitation worker etc for preordering and other stuff.

Keep the winter theme but give me more options like flashier snowboard outfits or other uniforms from different jobs. Hell id even wear some kind of suit with a nice trench coat.
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Snowboard outfit would be dooope
Flintty said:
I've got my look sorted!


Damn right they better have a Duncan's Toy Chest for me to smash the windows on...
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Tovarisc

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Tecnniqe said:
Add to that all beta weapons recoil pattern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRh...bLWeOgoDmQ&annotation_id=annotation_794954947
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That video shows how stupid M1A and SCAR-H balance was in CB. M1A had smaller mag, lower vertical recoil and dealt a lot more damage / bullet than SCAR-H which had larger mag and insane vertical recoil kick. M1A was super good for spamming that trigger fast and throwing a lot damage down even longer range.

Also shows why Cad was such godtier. Direct line pull vertically and very low maximum point for climb.
 
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Tawpgun

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This tends to be an unpopular opinion nowadays but fuck it.

I think once you enter the dark zone the game should force you into game chat. I feel like the ability to hear people talking is a big part of the DZ experience
 
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Xamtheking

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Tawpgun said:
This tends to be an unpopular opinion nowadays but fuck it.

I think once you enter the dark zone the game should force you into game chat. I feel like the ability to hear people talking is a big part of the DZ experience
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1. That would probably break some laws when it comes to consumer privacy
2. Some people don't even have mics
 
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Tecnniqe

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Tovarisc said:
That video shows how stupid M1A and SCAR-H balance was in CB. M1A had smaller mag, lower vertical recoil and dealt a lot more damage / bullet than SCAR-H which had larger mag and insane vertical recoil kick. M1A was super good for spamming that trigger fast and throwing a lot damage down even longer range.

Also shows why Cad was such godtier. Direct line pull vertically and very low maximum point for climb.
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Did someone say M1A?
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Not to mention Cad was god-tier cause there was nothing to compete with it due to raw damage and extra perk.
 
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Klyka

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Tawpgun said:
This tends to be an unpopular opinion nowadays but fuck it.

I think once you enter the dark zone the game should force you into game chat. I feel like the ability to hear people talking is a big part of the DZ experience
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I agree, but no way to enforce it on PC.
Also,people could still circumvent it even on console by just using an external chat program on the PC or a tablet or something.
 
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Tawpgun

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Xamtheking said:
1. That would probably break some laws when it comes to consumer privacy
2. Some people don't even have mics
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That's fine. You don't NEED a mic, but if you have one and are talking to your squad, then other players can hear.

It doesn't break any laws lol. Don't want to be heard? Mute mic or don't have one. Call of Duty used to force game chat in certain playlists.

Klyka said:
I agree, but no way to enforce it on PC.
Also,people could still circumvent it even on console by just using an external chat program on the PC or a tablet or something.
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That's fine. But many people won't go through the trouble.

Hearing other players is a compelling part of the DZ for me. Makes the player interactions similar to those in games like RUST or DayZ
 
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deoee

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Tovarisc said:
They need to swap its and SCAR-H's vertical recoil patterns. Currently it makes zero sense when looking at general stats of those weapons in the game. Weapon that should be more spammable isn't and one that shouldn't be is super easy to spam, dafuk.
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I guess they will optimize stuff before releasing the gamez, so let's see what they do and hoper.
 
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Archpath1

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I actually stopped using the caduceus, good gun wanted something a little faster so I opted for

a sup classic M1A and just wrecked everyone +5k on headshot for npcs 1-2k on players
Slapped extendo mag 9 bullets of death

Had a sup Smg9 the crit bonus was 24% again extendo mag 42-45 bullets it destroyed anyone running up on me, dem crits
 
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Tecnniqe

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Tawpgun said:
That's fine. You don't NEED a mic, but if you have one and are talking to your squad, then other players can hear.

It doesn't break any laws lol. Don't want to be heard? Mute mic or don't have one. Call of Duty used to force game chat in certain playlists.


That's fine. But many people won't go through the trouble.

Hearing other players is a compelling part of the DZ for me. Makes the player interactions similar to those in games like RUST or DayZ
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You want to force chat during the gameplay even if that means i would/could pick up private conversations or private information between the party players and the random world players?
Not to mention this on PC would be a nightmare.
 
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Xamtheking

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Tawpgun said:
That's fine. You don't NEED a mic, but if you have one and are talking to your squad, then other players can hear.

It doesn't break any laws lol. Don't want to be heard? Mute mic or don't have one. Call of Duty used to force game chat in certain playlists.


That's fine. But many people won't go through the trouble.

Hearing other players is a compelling part of the DZ for me. Makes the player interactions similar to those in games like RUST or DayZ
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Oh, sorry, misunderstood, I thought you meant make everyone turn their mic on, not switch from party chat to game chat.
 
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AllIsOneIsNone

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Speaking of weapons, does anyone know if we had access to all base model weapons in the beta? Like all we'll see is higher level and more rare ones with different talents? Not to say there aren't a decent number of them, but still disappointing if so.

Xamtheking said:
Raise your hand if you are hyped as fuck for Turrets
Additionally, raise your hand if you are scared as fuck for Turrets
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I wonder how they will work in the Dark Zone. I guess if someone else is rogue it will automatically target them or if you go rogue shooting a player it will automatically target anyone?
 
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Tawpgun

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Tecnniqe said:
You want to force chat during the gameplay even if that means i would/could pick up private conversations or private information between the party players and the random world players?
Not to mention this on PC would be a nightmare.
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PC doesn't have built in party chat. It's all 3rd party.

Not sure what you mean by the first thing.... Players would know dark zone forces gamechat. Like I said, if you don't want to be heard you don't have to. But if you're using the games own court system to talk, other players should hear. People talk to strangers all the time in other survival games
 
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Raide

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Xamtheking said:
Raise your hand if you are hyped as fuck for Turrets
Additionally, raise your hand if you are scared as fuck for Turrets
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Would be more hyped if they confirmed we can stick turrets to ceilings and walls. Getting a Perfect Dark Laptop Gun vibe from them. :D
 
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Tecnniqe

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pocketaces said:
Cool, Model 1887 and MP40 would be good :)
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Rather have new stuff than old stuff, we've seen it so many times already tbh.
Tawpgun said:
PC doesn't have built in party chat. It's all 3rd party.

Not sure what you mean by the first thing.... Players would know dark zone forces gamechat. Like I said, if you don't want to be heard you don't have to. But if you're using the games own court system to talk, other players should hear. People talk to strangers all the time in other survival games
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It was my understanding you wanted forced on Mic no matter what in the dark zone, hence the privacy issues.
Are you saying private chat on console should be broadcast in the darkzone?
Are you also saying third apps on PC should be the same? Because effectively Party chat works as a third party app on PC.

While its fun to hear other plan out and stuff, not having a option to turn it off could cause potential problems.
 
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deoee

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Tecnniqe said:
Rather have new stuff than old stuff, we've seen it so many times already tbh.


It was my understanding you wanted forced on Mic no matter what in the dark zone, hence the privacy issues.
Are you saying private chat on console should be broadcast in the darkzone?
Are you also saying third apps on PC should be the same? Because effectively Party chat works as a third party app on PC.
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I hope there will be heavy weapons like Rocket Launchers, dual wield LMGs, Mini Nukes etc.
 
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Tovarisc

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Tawpgun said:
Not sure what you mean by the first thing.... Players would know dark zone forces gamechat. Like I said, if you don't want to be heard you don't have to. But if you're using the games own court system to talk, other players should hear. People talk to strangers all the time in other survival games
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If I'm in Discord and using that as VOIP with my friends I don't want game to bruteforce on some DarkZone proxy/zone VOIP that broadcasts out Discord chatting into the game. Stuff like that would be and is some major bullshit imo, also reason why I always put on all possible blocks for in-game VOIP's to work [broadcast volume to 0, VOIP off, push-to-talk on and to keybind I will never use etc.].

If I want to chat with people in e.g. DZ I want it to be 100% my choice, was it through text or VOIP.

All above if I were to use in-game party VOIP, I don't need it going proxy/zone VOIP without me having say in it.
 
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Raide

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deoee said:
I hope there will be heavy weapons like Rocket Launchers, dual wield LMGs, Mini Nukes etc.
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I think these might be linked to the Tech abilities etc. Got a semi grenade launcher already. I don't see them letting people using crazy weapons since it might unbalance things, especially dual LMG's lol.

Would kill for a Flame Thrower :p *cleans quietly*
 
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Tecnniqe

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deoee said:
I hope there will be heavy weapons like Rocket Launchers, dual wield LMGs, Mini Nukes etc.
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Raide said:
I think these might be linked to the Tech abilities etc. Got a semi grenade launcher already. I don't see them letting people using crazy weapons since it might unbalance things, especially dual LMG's lol.

Would kill for a Flame Thrower :p *cleans quietly*
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It's a shot at the bullet sponge thread lol
 
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Kane1345

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Raide said:
I think these might be linked to the Tech abilities etc. Got a semi grenade launcher already. I don't see them letting people using crazy weapons since it might unbalance things, especially dual LMG's lol.

Would kill for a Flame Thrower :p *cleans quietly*
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+1 for Flame Thrower
 
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Art Vandilay

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Tovarisc said:
Oh wow, OP did delete his post. He got quite a bit shit about post containing too much details about where and who he met.

Alleged raid info;
  • Rikers Island
  • Will open 2 weeks post-release
  • Normal is level 27, Hard is level 30
  • 8 players [on PC we saw HUD element for 1+7 player party]
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If true, I may have to give this game another shot.

Edit: I know it hasn't come out yet so I haven't really experienced anything yet. But I wasn't the biggest fan of what we got to play.
 
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Tecnniqe

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Art Vandilay said:
If true, I may have to give this game another shot.

Edit: I know it hasn't come out yet so I haven't really experienced anything yet. But I wasn't the biggest fan of what we got to play.
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There was a lot of personal information there about a guy, who might get fired over it if true so i'd say its probable.



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Tawpgun

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Tecnniqe said:
Rather have new stuff than old stuff, we've seen it so many times already tbh.


It was my understanding you wanted forced on Mic no matter what in the dark zone, hence the privacy issues.
Are you saying private chat on console should be broadcast in the darkzone?
Are you also saying third apps on PC should be the same? Because effectively Party chat works as a third party app on PC.

While its fun to hear other plan out and stuff, not having a option to turn it off could cause potential problems.
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Tovarisc said:
If I'm in Discord and using that as VOIP with my friends I don't want game to bruteforce on some DarkZone proxy/zone VOIP that broadcasts out Discord chatting into the game. Stuff like that would be and is some major bullshit imo, also reason why I always put on all possible blocks for in-game VOIP's to work [broadcast volume to 0, VOIP off, push-to-talk on and to keybind I will never use etc.].

If I want to chat with people in e.g. DZ I want it to be 100% my choice, was it through text or VOIP.

All above if I were to use in-game party VOIP, I don't need it going proxy/zone VOIP without me having say in it.
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You guys aren't getting it.

I'm not familiar with PC but I'm not saying they'd brute force your discord chat in. Thought that was impossible anyway. If you wanna use a 3rd party chat client that's fine. I wish you wouldn't because everyone being on gamechat is more interesting. If you use the in game voip everyone should hear you.

On consoles though, if you're in party chat on Xbox or ps4, and you hop into the dark zone, you get switched to gamechat. Similar to how call of duty used to force you to game chat.

If you wanna use a 3rd party to circumvent this I won't stop you, just wish you wouldn't. I'd love to be able to talk and interact with people I run into. Had a lot of great moments like that in closed beta but they were rare.
 
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