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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again

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julrik

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Played the beta for a few hours. Not as fun as I hoped it'd be. It just doesn't click for me. Not impressed with the graphics either, to be honest (PS4).

Might buy it when it reaches $20, but I'm holding off for now.
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
So do we know if there's going to be silent weapons or silent ways to take down enemies? I only ask because the way they handle the mission they give you I wasn't sure if they wanted me to sneak around these guys and kill them without making a fuss but couldn't see how I was supposed to, making the cover hiding a bit pointless outside of firefights.

The main problem I have is how empty it seems to be, I climbed and went through some buildings and found nothing at all, not even chests I couldn't open, just seems to be a lot of nice looking pointless places to go. Which is my biggest worry coming from the beta, the same for when I played the Destiny beta, that there isn't going to be enough varied things to do.
 
So , I spent some time in the darkzone, got some loot, extracted some loot, killed some people and ran around a lot in a very sparsely populated city.

There isn't really a great deal to do, and what there is to do isn't very interesting it's just a bit too sparse between fights.

Maybe to full game will have more to do?

Isn't New York hit with some kind of a virus or something like that? I wouldn't expect a city that went through something like this to be very populated at all. Most likely everyone fled the city by now.
 

Klyka

Banned
Regarding the Dark Zone:

The developers have said, that inside the Dark Zone there will be 24 players at a time, because they don't want you to run into people around every corner.

I am extremely sure that right now,you only see so many people because those 24 are all inside the small area that is cordoned off inside the beta.

So once the full Dark Zone is there and people move further and further north as they level and such, you won't be running into players around every corner anymore.
 

Jolkien

Member
Does any of the beta stuff carry over?

No.

Regarding the Dark Zone:

The developers have said, that inside the Dark Zone there will be 24 players at a time, because they don't want you to run into people around every corner.

I am extremely sure that right now,you only see so many people because those 24 are all inside the small area that is cordoned off inside the beta.

So once the full Dark Zone is there and people move further and further north as they level and such, you won't be running into players around every corner anymore.

Yes and once we reach the level cap all the dark zone are re-populated with end game content. I wonder at that point if the limit will be higher than 24 because now you will roam the whole dark zone.
 

Matty8787

Member
Played enough to last me until release.

One thing I am worried about is playing solo.. I don't have many friends that play on PC so hoping solo players are viable.
 

Kabouter

Member
Did a replay of the hospital mission on hard with randoms, really fun that way. Would recommend it for anyone looking to do some PvE stuff.

There are definitely NPCs there to fight but they seem few and far between. You really have to just roam around and come across them.

The ones that are there are often tough as nails though.
 
Played for a good 5 hours yesterday and absolutely loved it. Did some missions with my brother and went into the DZ where we got our asses handed to us by rogues camping on the extraction zones. But then I partied with some random dudes who were pretty cool guys and had an amazing time on the DZ. We went rogue and up to the most wanted level and totally teared up the house! A bit later we partied with two more random dudes via party chat and it was even better. I am totally in love with the game and can't wait to get back home to explore some more and party up to go to the DZ ( while you can get at it alone I don't recommend it as parties will kill you everytime and it will get very frustrating).
 

Klyka

Banned
Of course. Enemies are level 8-9. Instead of 4-5.

actually my friend and I tested: enemies scale depending on your Level.

We did the Mission as lvl 5 on hard and all enemies were lvl 5 with purple health and armor

then we did it at lvl 7 and all enemies were lvl 7 with purple health and armor

on normal, they were all lvl 4 no matter our Level with red health and no armor
 

Klyka

Banned
I found an Apartment where next to the bed were a TON of syringes and a blood trail led to the bathroom where a dead Person was lying face first in the toilet, a Syringe next to an arm with the sleeve rolled up.

Like, that was it, there was no Intel to gather or anything, but the message was pretty damn clear.

And you could look at the Pictures of friends and Family and there were female clothes in the closets and on the ground,but the dead Person was a male. So we surmised it was a Junkie who had broken into this Apartment and died from an overdose.

All visual storytelling.
 
The detail in this game is crazy. I'm pumped for launch.

Very good materials too on a number of objects (look at the metallic ribbon on the gift or how the cloth looks here).
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Regarding the Dark Zone:

The developers have said, that inside the Dark Zone there will be 24 players at a time, because they don't want you to run into people around every corner.

I am extremely sure that right now,you only see so many people because those 24 are all inside the small area that is cordoned off inside the beta.

So once the full Dark Zone is there and people move further and further north as they level and such, you won't be running into players around every corner anymore.

This, and even as it is now there are extraction points littered across the map. I just work my way around and find an extraction zone that has almost no one around and have had no problem with getting stuff out. Plus, you can always run and run...and run some more. It's not like your going down with one shot so if things go bad or a group shows up / goes rogue then trying to escape is always an option.

Once the full game hits and the whole Dark Zone opens up then it should be easier to find less populated extraction zones on a more reliable basis.

That said, having at least one with you and watching your back is a good thing but there is another feel to it going solo as well.
 

Klyka

Banned
What's the signature skill? Someone was trying to explain to me yesterday and I was too drunk to comprehend anything.
press enter

The signature skill is the "ultimate skill" of each of the trees.
You can only ever have one signature skill equipped.
 

Jolkien

Member
actually my friend and I tested: enemies scale depending on your Level.

We did the Mission as lvl 5 on hard and all enemies were lvl 5 with purple health and armor

then we did it at lvl 7 and all enemies were lvl 7 with purple health and armor

on normal, they were all lvl 4 no matter our Level with red health and no armor

Oh that's good to know. Nice that on hard difficulty it's scaleable.
 

Johndoey

Banned
Isn't New York hit with some kind of a virus or something like that? I wouldn't expect a city that went through something like this to be very populated at all. Most likely everyone fled the city by now.
Major cities don't really empty like that though, especially with a quarantine going. A lot fewer people out and about but still a decent population.
 

Klyka

Banned
Agree with Levelcap in this vid. If you are Roque 5 you shouldnt be getting extra time to your timer if you shoot people. Because people will hunt you and see you on the map all the time and if you defend yourself you get extra time. Wich is abit stupid because you create a timer wich never goes away then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k44GNhMyCxI&feature=youtu.be&a

Yeah I am not sure how you are supposed to get rid of it. Maybe when the Dark Zone is fully opened up it'll be easier cause you got more space to hide.

Ohh, so those containers are shared across the whole server? How the crap do you get them then?

Right now in the beta you are seeing all 24 Players (max for Dark Zone) put into one small fenced off area. In the full game, the whole dark Zone is open and People will spread out more, meaning that loot Containers and NPCs have time to respawn a lot more and stay up more often.

Honestly,I would use the beta as a way to look at the game, but don't take everything you see right now as a given. It IS a small Piece of the pie, with from what I have compared to Videos, cut Content and enemy/NPC numbers.
 

IvorB

Member
The ones that are there are often tough as nails though.

Yeah they can get pretty tough.

This, and even as it is now there are extraction points littered across the map. I just work my way around and find an extraction zone that has almost no one around and have had no problem with getting stuff out. Plus, you can always run and run...and run some more. It's not like your going down with one shot so if things go bad or a group shows up / goes rogue then trying to escape is always an option.

Once the full game hits and the whole Dark Zone opens up then it should be easier to find less populated extraction zones on a more reliable basis.

That said, having at least one with you and watching your back is a good thing but there is another feel to it going solo as well.

I picked up a piece of blue body armour in the DZ and from that point on I was just sweating and went immediately to extract it. I think I went round and round all the extraction points a couple of times before I found the perfect conditions. Shot the flare when I was sure I was alone and no one would spot me then just legged it away to hide in the alleys until the clock got to, like, 5 secs. Then I ran back and attached it at the last second. It's a cowardly strategy but it works ha ha.
 

Jolkien

Member
Ohh, so those containers are shared across the whole server? How the crap do you get them then?

I think you compete with the 23 other playing the Dark Zone. If a member of your team open it, you will also get loot from it. Some chest require a specific Dark Zone level to open, highest one are level 10. And some of them require Dark Zone key which you can loot by killing enemies, or enemy player. I think you can find some in the wild as well, I always was surprised getting to a chest, seeing I had a key, most of the time I had no clue where I found it.

Playing early in the morning yesterday on PS4 all the chest were unopened, my group and I went on a big looting spree.
 

Makikou

Member
I think you compete with the 23 other playing the Dark Zone. If a member of your team open it, you will also get loot from it. Some chest require a specific Dark Zone level to open, highest one are level 10. And some of them require Dark Zone key which you can loot by killing enemies, or enemy player. I think you can find some in the wild as well, I always was surprised getting to a chest, seeing I had a key, most of the time I had no clue where I found it.

Playing early in the morning yesterday on PS4 all the chest were unopened, my group and I went on a big looting spree.

I've only gotten DZ Keys from killing enemies.
 
Major cities don't really empty like that though, especially with a quarantine going. A lot fewer people out and about but still a decent population.
While I completely agree with your point, I do think that (at least for the beta) they are more likely testing connection issues, matchmaking,etc rather than how many NPC are out and about the city. I do hope that once the game ships, the city will be more populated because as of right now,I can go a full 3-4 minutes without seeing a single soul.
 

Jolkien

Member
Do console Players have the Options of customizing their HUD like we PCs do?

No :( I really wished I could move my party health bar to the upper left side, I'm so used to MMO putting it there.

The only option present is to auto-hide your HUG when it's not used and hide damage numbers and things like that. You can't move stuff around.

I've only gotten DZ Keys from killing enemies.

PVE ennemies ? I know for a fact you lose some when you dies as a rogue, I got killed at some point as a rogue and I dropped 700'ish dark zone credit, some xp and 2 keys.
 

Special C

Member
I know going Rogue is supposed to be hard, but It would be more fun if you just had to survive for a period of time regardless of how much you shoot back. Right now you kill someone, take their loot, then run in circles away from people untll your timer runs out. If you shoot back your rogue timer keeps going up.

Would be cooler if everyone was gunning for you and you could fight back and try to survive for 2 or 3 minutes.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Great game but man there is WAY too much HUD going on.

There really isn't. The main HUD with health info etc moves left or right depending on which way you're leaning and there's a minimap at the top left. How is that "WAY too much"? I'm confused by the complaints to be honest. The HUD has never gotten in my way.
 
I know going Rogue is supposed to be hard, but It would be more fun if you just had to survive for a period of time regardless of how much you shoot back. Right now you kill someone, take their loot, then run in circles away from people untll your timer runs out. If you shoot back your rogue timer keeps going up.

Would be cooler if everyone was gunning for you and you could fight back and try to survive for 2 or 3 minutes.
This is exactly what our group was thinking last night when we got manhunted. Seems silly that you can't defend yourself at all. I could see not allowing you to fire first without resetting your timer, but why not in retaliation?
 

ViciousDS

Banned
Lets hope the beta shows Massive that some changes to the DZ settings might work better :)

wouldn't get your hopes up too much

They didn't change much from the alpha test which had an insane amount of people playing it.

The spawn timers in DZ are the same(takes too long for mobs to respawn), timers didn't change much, the way Rogues are handled, its still the same gank city.


Greatest change we got was switching weapons with the triangle/Y button
 

Lnkn52

Member
So my overall review is that I like it alot.

Being an avid Destiny player, I really like the change of pace. Coming from where holding down the sprint button to skip all of the story content is a viable strat, no way that is allowed in the Division.

Where I really had the most fun was in the dark zone. I hope on the full release there are more interior places to explore.
 
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