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The Elder Scrolls Online Tamriel Unlimited - |OT| - Console edition

I can confirm this... good lord... not again such a big update file :(

Try taking your ps4 in standby mode, this will at least speed up the download a bit.

I'm not sure standby is going to help atm. I left planetside installing in standby last night and it still took 6 hours to finish up.
 
Has anyone found a Werewolf's Cameo collectible item? I found one last night but the item is bugged and won't let me use it. It's just wasting an inventory slot right now :/

Submitted a ticket so hopefully it gets fixed.

Hah. I submitted a ticket about the first collectible I picked up. I'm sure you'll love the form response. :p

Anyway, here's how collectibles work: When you loot the item, it checks that requirement off in the particular achievement, Monstrous Foes in this case.

The collectible isn't actually usable, and you can do with it what you want.

Unfortunately, there's an issue on XB1 and PS4 where collectibles aren't registering, and when that happens, you're just sol atm.
 

dubq

Member
Isn't that patch size also the same size of the update when the game launched?

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Also, started adding gold to the bank. =)
 
Patch notes for anyone interested. Seems like pretty basic stuff, not sure why the file size is so large.

Maybe someone fucked up and they are pushing the entire update for a new install to everyone instead of just a small update for those that already have it.

BTW re download speeds. Rest mode didn't work, pause/resume didn't work but the test internet fix in network settings did work and I have full download speed back (for now anyway)
 

Giggzy

Member
From what I've read it seems to be a problem on Sony's end, not Zenimax. This has happened a lot recently with other games, requiring you to download the full game with the update instead of just the update.

The update was only 500mb on Xbox One
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
The hell, why do we have to download 15gb again? I thought Sony had sorted this so we only needed delta patches, the Xbox One patch was apparently 500mb. At the same time if they hadn't needed to patch 15gb on the first day we wouldn't need the whole thing again. Ridiculous.
 

Winter John

Member
Apparently, it's not a bug, and 15gb is the actual size.-

"Hey guys. Today’s PS4 patch size is 15.9GB because it also includes patches 01.01 – 01.03. We’ll be posting more information about this later today here on the forums."

It would have been nice if they'd bothered to warn us in advance
 
Wow, what a fuck up with patching. Amazing. So, does this mean that people who buy the game from now on have to download 30GBs worth of stuff before they can play?
 

Bahlor

Member
Wow, what a fuck up with patching. Amazing. So, does this mean that people who buy the game from now on have to download 30GBs worth of stuff before they can play?

From twitter:

"Today’s PS4 patch size is 15.9GB because it also includes patches 01.01 - 01.03. Keep an eye on the #ESOTU forums for updates."
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/613720217949204480

Doesn't seem like we will have to be prepared for updates that are this big^^
 
From twitter:

"Today’s PS4 patch size is 15.9GB because it also includes patches 01.01 - 01.03. Keep an eye on the #ESOTU forums for updates."
https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/613720217949204480

Doesn't seem like we will have to be prepared for updates that are this big^^

This is odd, Sony fixed the issue w/ downloading previous patches ages ago. Did Zenimax online make a mistake and its too late to fix it?

A bit frustrating, oh well. I certainly won't be too upset less it happens next patch too.
 

Mindman

Member
This is odd, Sony fixed the issue w/ downloading previous patches ages ago. Did Zenimax online make a mistake and its too late to fix it?

A bit frustrating, oh well. I certainly won't be too upset less it happens next patch too.

I don't think Sony fixed it. All patches still stack in size on PS4. We will be downloading 15 GB+ everytime they update this game.
 

ironcreed

Banned
Just got prompted w/ a 15.9gb patch on PS4.

That'll take me 10 hours to download at my new place w/ my awful 6mbps line and PSN being awfully slow lately. Its my day off, was looking forward to playing some.

Jesus, I am going to have to buy a new hard drive. This shit is getting ridiculous.
 

Mindman

Member
Jesus, I am going to have to buy a new hard drive. This shit is getting ridiculous.

This is not two 15 GB patches, it's one 15 GB patch that you are downloading twice with the extra stuff added on the file size. This won't take up 30 GB space on your drive.
 

ironcreed

Banned
This is not two 15 GB patches, it's one 15 GB patch that are downloading twice with the extra stuff added on the file size. This won't take up 30 GB space on your drive.

Even so, I don't want to redownload that shit all over again. I just read that the actual new patch is 550MB on Xbox One. I wish I would have bought the game there.
 
I don't think Sony fixed it. All patches still stack in size on PS4. We will be downloading 15 GB+ everytime they update this game.

They definitely fixed it some time ago, the Driveclub patch from last week was 420mbs. in fact, i think they fixed it prior to Driveclub launching as i don't ever recall it being an issue w/ that title.

Even so, I don't want to redownload that shit all over again. I just read that the actual new patch is 550MB on Xbox One. I wish I would have bought the game there.

I'd really think this is an issue w/ Zenimax and not Sony.
 

glaurung

Member
I deleted TESO from my PS4 hard drive last night. That game looks like a turd, it sounds like a turd and it - for the most part - plays like a turd.

I hope the 16 GB update file rewrites the game engine completely. But it won't.
 
What the flip?

I don't have a data cap but I feel bad for those who do. What kind of madness is this that we have to re-download the entire 15 gigs.
 

Mindman

Member
I deleted TESO from my PS4 hard drive last night. That game looks like a turd, it sounds like a turd and it - for the most part - plays like a turd.

I hope the 16 GB update file rewrites the game engine completely. But it won't.

Disagree on all fronts!
 
I deleted TESO from my PS4 hard drive last night. That game looks like a turd, it sounds like a turd and it - for the most part - plays like a turd.

I'm kind of realizing the same thing, i wish i'd have waited for Heavensward. I was just so curious to play an MMO that's cut further from the EQ/WoW cloth. I was aware of the reception it had received during its PC launch but had been informed quite a few times it had really improved since then.

I really dislike how similar it is to Skyrim when it comes to the UI too, i find the game struggles to have its own identity as an Elder Scrolls game and i just feel like i'm playing a cheap knock off of Skyrim the whole time. I understand they want to make it feel comfortable for players coming over from Elder Scrolls 5, i just think it was a mistake to go that far.

There are elements i'm enjoying, namely how to create your characters abilities. I'm not sure how that'll play out endgame. The quests narratives seem stronger than average too.
 

Giggzy

Member
It's not Zenimax. I had this same issue with the Witcher 3 and Bloodborne update. It's ridiculous. Between this constant annoyance and super slow PSN speeds, I'm really close to making my Xbox One my primary system.

Edit: I guess it is Zenimax this time according to their recent update. Still shitty if we have to do this every time
 

Giggzy

Member
Just turned on my PS4 and laughed out loud at the size of the update. My friends are going to be pissed when they get home from work

Do your friends put the ps4 in rest mode? I always do when I'm not playing. I'm hoping this patch will be completed by the time I get home from work (6.5 hours from now)
 
Do your friends put the ps4 in rest mode? I always do when I'm not playing. I'm hoping this patch will be completed by the time I get home from work (6.5 hours from now)
They probably do but sometimes the update file won't start downloading until you turn the PS4 on. That's what happened to me just now.
 
I am loving this game. The pay model is perfect as its just cosmetic or non consequential stuff :)

Its that good that I may actually pay for stuff as I want a dog as a pet in it :)

This is how you do a pay model! Well done Bethesda.
 

StuffRuff

Member
A couple of thoughts I had today.

Really enjoying the game so far, its one of the easier games I've played to just jump on, play a few quests, do some exploring and then jump off again. No pressure. I think the environment looks pretty damn good for an MMO and there seems to be a great population of players so far interacting, questing, dungeoning (though a proper group finder with auto travel to instance wouldn't go a miss!) and overall I'm pleased with the purchase.

But I'm also really struggling with the way the class system feels. I'm used to WoW and its clones (FFXIV) where you have a defined "holy trinity" and each class somehow fits into one of those three roles. I know its an often debated topic but I personally don't see any problem with that system. When you pick a class at the start of the game it gives you purpose. You know where your role lies in team play and what your strengths/weaknesses are from the start. You know if you pick a caster you'll wear light armour, do a f**k ton of DPS and probably throw bolts of lightning from your finger tips or staff. On the other hand you know that if you choose a warrior, you'll either DPS or tank, wear heavy armour, look like a badass and hit things to death.

But with ESO I feel it doesn't really matter what I pick. If I pick a sorcerer (which in my mind will be squishy but high damaging) I can whack on some heavy armour, a two hander, throw on some 2H'r skills and do a reasonable effort of doing melee damage just as the Dragonknight would have with the same gear and skills. Again same with the typically heavy hitters (DK/Templar), throw on a staff and some light armour and spec into Magicka and you've got yourself a mean caster.

Now I know some people will like this. It gives a great freedom to the gameplay and doesn't tie you down to any particular play style if you pick a certain class. Hell be a rogue type get your daggers out and stab stuff and then a minute later whip a resto staff out and be the healer for a group if you choose. Sounds good on paper. But its making the game feel a bit pointless and hollow for me, like I can't focus on an end game and strive towards it and that my character has no real purpose and that all the classes are kind of blending into one. I think it would have been a more approachable system if there wasnt any kind of classes at all. Like you just start off with a character and if you want to choose a particular direction of play you go for it, no need to define it from the start with a class type when it makes no real difference.

Am I the only one feeling like this or are people generally enjoying the class freedom?
 
Good think I got a 2TB PS4 drive now, jesus these updates chew up space.

It's re-writing the original 15 gig day one patch, it's not another 15 gigs. The patch is only 500mb or so, just like on XB1.

I don't know what happened but ZOS messed up and we shouldn't have to download it again.
 
I am loving this game. The pay model is perfect as its just cosmetic or non consequential stuff :)

Its that good that I may actually pay for stuff as I want a dog as a pet in it :)

This is how you do a pay model! Well done Bethesda.

Yeah, I bought a dog because...you know, dogs. And I bought a mount because my son already had one and he was getting tired of slogging around with his old man. Plus, it helps the devs, so it's all good...
 
Maybe I should cancel it until they patch the patch

They won't patch the patch.

Here's an update. Seems that they've got people working there who never considered that there would be an issue with downloading the same massive patch twice, at least not until the complaints started pouring in.

Hey guys. Just to follow up, we do understand that having to download such a large patch is frustrating and not ideal, and we want to let you know that we are actively working to ensure future ESOTU PS4 patches are not cumulative.
 

Winter John

Member
It's quite unbelievable that the people at Zenimax thought this would be acceptable. Thankfully, I have an ok connection and the pause trick bumped the download time down to 35 minutes, but still, having to re-download the 15gb patch should never have happened.
 

ironcreed

Banned
Here's an update. Seems that they've got people working there who never considered that there would be an issue with downloading the same massive patch twice, at least not until the complaints started pouring in.

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Thanks, guys.
 
I deleted TESO from my PS4 hard drive last night. That game looks like a turd, it sounds like a turd and it - for the most part - plays like a turd.

I hope the 16 GB update file rewrites the game engine completely. But it won't.

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If my PS4 is in rest mode will it download automatically?
 
Am I the only one feeling like this or are people generally enjoying the class freedom?

I personally prefer the freedom. I don't want to be shoehorned into a particular role and then be forced to plan around that role, form up with others for the best strategy based on those roles, etc. One of the things I love about Elder Scrolls vs other RPGs is the freedom. I can create a character, and then adventure and quest as that character, and do whatever I (or the character) want to do. No shackles. Having to "plan my build" and consult guides and shit while playing makes it far too game-y. That's okay for other games, but I'm glad they kept this one the way it is.

For what it's worth, I'm not into class-based multiplayer shooters either since I don't want to pick a "role" when I spawn. I prefer a Halo-type deal where whoever grabs a sniper gets to be the sniper, etc. Also, I never liked WoW or SWG or any other MMO I've tried before this one. I think the reason why this one works for me is that I can basically play it as a single-player game anyway. The quests and whatnot are interesting enough to where I don't feel the need to bother with the other people running around. I'll probably never group up, at least not by choice.
 
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