PensivePen
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Some of the chapters are straightforward and very short, they're not all big open areas. And I haven't gotten the predator skill yet.
The Evil Within 2 |OT| "Something not quite right"
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I just don't get the "less dread" thing. For most of TEW i felt no dread whatsoever. The bosses and early village chapters were excellent exceptions. (And the entire DLC.)
But in TEW2 i constantly feel under threat. I've died several times on Normal and it was fairly traumatic and in the open world there are constant hints of danger all around and in the distance. Even just seeing a figure standing far away under a street light...
The dread is palpable for me. Much more so than the first.
I'm on PC and it's fine, great even. But I have a very high end machine.
_/¯Definitely doesn't double down on the nonsense. Well, at least not narratively. TEW2 actually explicitly tells you what's going on and what you're doing, unlike the first game which obscures almost all the plot points and goes with a weird, trippy adventure literally from start to finish.
The actual story is still hammy Inception by way of Resident Evil cheese.
kristianity77
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I bought this yesterday with so so expectations as the first one was fun but very flawed. Have to say so far, about two hours in, this is amazing. It's the first horror game this gen I've really gotten in to. In my opinion, it's almost like the silent hill game I've been craving for this gen.
Exactly my feeling. It's a pity I'm so busy this weekend/week, literally all I want to do is delve back into Union. This could be my GotY, it's like a Silent Hill Downpour but actually together in terms of combat/encounter design.
The stealth is really working for me, too. If you change the Cover control to Toggle instead of Hold it feels completely like Splinter Cell Conviction/Blacklist or The Division, where you can quick-run from cover to cover. Really solid cover/stealth system.
Pretty stupid that corner stealth kills are locked behind a tree though :/ skill trees should be there to hyperpower yourself, not to unlock basic shit.
Kain-Nosgoth
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Asking again since it's a new page
So.... i bought the PREDATOR skill.... and it doesn't work at all, i'm kinda pissed off!
Did i miss something? How does it works? Cause the thing they said in the tutorial definitely doesn't work
So.... i bought the PREDATOR skill.... and it doesn't work at all, i'm kinda pissed off!
Did i miss something? How does it works? Cause the thing they said in the tutorial definitely doesn't work
It seems like it's either bugged or if you're on Nightmare the range is reduced to nothing.
If you have an earlier save, go back and buy something else.
PensivePen
Member
I was actually thinking about this earlier today too. It really does feel like Silent Hill Downpour's concept executed much better.
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
Team Andromeda
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This is a much better game than the massively flawed original, which got a free pass because it was directed by Shinji Mikami. Mind you its not a patch on RE 7
I think RE7 is far more tightly designed and polished - but TEW2 has got the total immersion and ambition/experimental factor for me which is placing it way above RE7. TEW2 feels almost STALKER-esque at times.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Is this the corner stealth kill ability?
I just saw the trophy guide on YouTube by powerpyx and noticed he mentioned something curious about having the target being in the center of your screen
Edit: sorry its the skill description the enemy must be in the center of the screen for the sneak kill icon to appear
I feel like chapters 3 and to a lesser degree part of 7 make you run around following the communicator markers just so the player is encouraged to actively explore and find valuables that aren't on the crit path, unfortunately this has a negative effect on players who are already capitalizing on the exploratory rewards, if you're like me, and like to explore a new zone as soon as you enter, you're sort of punished with a bunch of retreading over the same areas. If this is just kinda turorialising, I expect that back half of the back won't have this minor annoyance. [I worded all of that extremely poorly but I think y'all can extrapolate what I'm saying here.]
One other small criticism, while I like a bunch of the art and design work for this game, much of the Marrow and a good chunk of Union are impressively dull, the Marrow in particular reminds me a lot of those drab city levels in the first game, minus some interesting vistas. All of the linear set-piece sequences have looked dope though.
One other small criticism, while I like a bunch of the art and design work for this game, much of the Marrow and a good chunk of Union are impressively dull, the Marrow in particular reminds me a lot of those drab city levels in the first game, minus some interesting vistas. All of the linear set-piece sequences have looked dope though.
No it's not corner stealth kill, I think it's the one that lets you 'warp' a short distance, so you can stealth kill enemies from further away.
But it's evidently badly bugged (or terribly designed but that's less likely).
D
Deleted member 30609
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i've been using it on PC with some success
look for the "cover arrow" (the little arrow that appears on cover you can hide behind) but on an enemy as you approach from behind. then hit the cover button to initiate the approach. hit the stealth kill button when the normal stealth kill icon appears (the tutorials said "e", but I'd since rebound it to "q" -- pressing "e" did nothing and it led to me sprinting into the back of enemy -- not good).
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
Very interesting. Fyi i don't have the skill, just reporting what others said on the last page.
So basically it allows you to treat enemies as cover and "cover run" to them?
What a terribly convoluted solution. Perhaps increasing the range of the contextual attack button led to issues.
psychotron
Member
Anyone?
Most didnt. If you go on the support forums, a Best Buy employee stated that they thought the codes would be in the box. Said they have no codes from Bethesda, but are working on it. Im pissed.
So far I feel like TEW2 is a more consistent game than TEW, but has lost a bit of that games character. The fact its so easily comparable to Silent Hill and TLoU is a tad disappointing.
I agree theyre both weaker than RE7. My thoughts after beating TEW were that it was a shame that Mikami and Capcom hadnt stayed together, because Resident Evil could have benefitted from the strength of vision Mikami had whereas Mikami could really have benefitted from the tighter design that RE is usually known for (6 notwithstanding). After RE7 though, it felt like Capcom had made a better RE game without Mikami than Mikami had made without Capcom
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Aim assist definitely helps, youll still have some difficulty lining up the perfect shot so its not like its a complete cheat.
Problem is you can only enable it in survival difficulty.
Brerlappin
Member
Is it just me, or is the "bottle to the face + stab" combo that worked so well in TEW1 almost useless in this? Ive gotten it to work once. It sems like almost every enemy just shrugs off the bottle and doesn't get staggered.
Also, is there any way to kill those
??
Also, is there any way to kill those
singing ghosts
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
just run on the opposite direction, you will eventually leave the
"haunted" zone and then she'll disappear
didn't actually try to kill her
didn't actually try to kill her
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Deleted member 30609
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I haven't really tested the boundaries of the system, but yeah, that's the best way of describing it.
D
Deleted member 30609
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Edit: double post and misread.
Seems to be way harder to do for me too so I just gave up trying it.
psychotron
Member
Im playing survivor. Screw nightmare, lol. Just making sure its useful but not baby mode.
Badpsychometry
Member
I just got another handgun... At first this game without upgrading weapons and stats was kicking my ass, but now on chapter 11 everything is clicking into place. I love this game so very much and I hope we get a third game, or at the very least some DLC.
Thanks!
Jawmuncher
Member
About the only useful thing for bottles is as an anti-grab once you have that skill. They do jack all for diverting attention and trying to setup that stun combo.
With the combo I think the issue is they dont stay stunned very long.
With the combo I think the issue is they dont stay stunned very long.
What. Bottles have got me out of like 5 life-or-death binds and I'm only 4 hours in. I haven't used them as a stun-then-stab tool yet but apparently they're great for that.
Git gud?
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
it's a scripted area, you'll go there later
Ok thanks.
You will fucking love this, mate. Honestly. It feels like a slightly more action oriented Silent Hill with Downpour's world design.
Though tbh if i was going to go full listicle on the inspirations I'd say it's Resident Evil 4 meets Silent Hill meets Metal Gear Solid meets Twin Peaks meets The Last of Us meets STALKER meets The Evil Within 1.
And imo it carefully picks out and combines literally all the best bits of all these games.
My main issue with the game so far is how it locks basic movement/combat options behind the skill tree. It's probably something I'll only have to worry about on my first playthrough, but still. You shoot an enemy's leg, they get stunned for a period of time just long enough to make sure the player can run up to them, so you do it, and you don't have the skill that lets you kick the shit out of them. Why?
Skill trees should make progression more rewarding and fun, not the first few hours more boring and limited. At least they gave us the stomp, so there's that. I like the increased stamina, though. I didn't mind it in the first game, it made sense, but I do enjoy the sequel giving me something a little closer to how my character actually was in the first one after the upgrades than having to do it all over again.
Skill trees should make progression more rewarding and fun, not the first few hours more boring and limited. At least they gave us the stomp, so there's that. I like the increased stamina, though. I didn't mind it in the first game, it made sense, but I do enjoy the sequel giving me something a little closer to how my character actually was in the first one after the upgrades than having to do it all over again.
Whatever the bottom option is under graphics, advanced settings or something similar
symphonask
Member
Agreed. Seems like a superficial way to add difficulty. I couldn't believe stealth kill from cover was an upgrade and not something you can just do.
Yeah but there isn't much there.
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
The PREDATOR skill is definitely glitched... during the
part, it worked perfectly, but outisde of that it never works!
FPS
Free pass from who? It got mixed reviews.
psychotron
Member
Not sure if this is thread worthy but Bethesda confirmed on the support forums that a Pro/XB1X patch is coming.
Team Andromeda
Member
Agreed on all counts, great post btw