DangerMouse
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Holy shit.
Edit: And holy shit again.
Edit: And holy shit again.
Holy shit, what an episode again. Amos back at it again and that speech of Avasarala was amazing.
Good good, very good.
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Also maybe they are, maybe they're just humans infused with it.
It's not like the industry is flush with towering women.Naomi is very tall, described as "towering" over Holden. I guess they couldn't have a tall woman looming over the lead?
Once the episode has aired, it's fair game for discussion. The only things that need spoiler tags are any book discussion, previews, interviews about future episodes, etc...Cover up your spoilers
Welcome to Episode 5 of The Churn, our post-show podcast about The Expanse.Each week during Season 2, The Expanse creators Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham (who you all know as James SA Corey) and Syfy Wire's resident The Expanse superfans -- Fangrrls Managing Editor Cher Martinetti and Editor-in-Chief Adam Swiderski -- take a deeper dive into the latest episode.
Still reeling from Miller's sacrifice, the Roci crew begin the process of moving forward. Holden questions his role as a leader, Alex gets some TLC, and Naomi makes an executive decision unbeknownst to anyone else. We break it all down with Ty and Daniel and then everyone's favorite dubstep-loving Belter, Andrew Rotilio, joins us to talk about Diogo's journey.
I've been reading the first book and (not spoilers) Chrisjen isn't even in the first book. Naomi is very tall, described as "towering" over Holden. I guess they couldn't have a tall woman looming over the lead? Also, Amos curses a lot. A LOT. I do appreciate all the work the show did in getting the characters-mostly-right.
Episode 5 is the end of the first book .right?
Edit: I did not get the point of them showing Epistein drive's origin, it went nowhere and was kind of random.
The origin of the Epstein Drive, which apparently cost Solomon Epstein his life, isn't really necessary from an informational standpoint, but the reminder of the human cost of innovation, and the way that innovation expands outward from itself, is important thematic material. It also fits perfectly with the show's mood—the characters aren't always the most nuanced, but there's a fascinating empathy at work here in showing how systems of repression and dominance develop, and how ”progress" shapes lives in ways that can only be predicted in retrospect.
The whole Epstein thing is a breakthrough because they only had fusion drives and were limited by that speed. So I think they pretty much went as far as Mars for colonizing, due to how long it took for travel.
With the drive, it allowed them to reach the belt, the outer planets, etc.
Yes. But why does that matter for the post-Venus story in this episode? It does not.
BTW, show is more and more moving away from the books.
That's my Boy Miller turned into Reaper right?
This show doesn't let up
Why were The UN's ships attacking Mars? It looks like they were taking down some large satellite
Why were The UN's ships attacking Mars? It looks like they were taking down some large satellite
From an acting point of view I felt like this week's episode was rough. Everyone seemed to be playing caricatures of their roles, and Avasarala's scorched earth speech in Errinwright's office was really, really bad.
Why were The UN's ships attacking Mars? It looks like they were taking down some large satellite
I think it was the Mars ships opening fire on a communication satellite? Then the UN fired back. Well one of them started firing at the satellite lol. They thought they were being attacked, and communications were being jammed.
Why were The UN's ships attacking Mars? It looks like they were taking down some large satellite
I think it was the Mars ships opening fire on a communication satellite? Then the UN fired back. Well one of them started firing at the satellite lol. They thought they were being attacked, and communications were being jammed.
Agreed. It happens sometimes on this show... It's overall excellent, but sometimes it's like they went with the first rehearsal take with no reshoot. Naomi had a few pretty rough scenes in the last episode too, where it sounded like she was just reading off a cue card so they could wrap the scene up and go to lunch.From an acting point of view I felt like this week's episode was rough. Everyone seemed to be playing caricatures of their roles, and Avasarala's scorched earth speech in Errinwright's office was really, really bad.
I think her acting and emoting is great, she just struggles very heavily with english intonation and emphasis. It's not an accent thing, really, she just always emphasizes the wrong word and pauses in the wrong places and it sounds wrong.I kinda tuned out during that speech. I'm just not a big fan of that actress--think it stems from an awful SVU episode she did way back.
Just started and well behind - only finished E3 the other night.
I'm very impressed at how well they adapted the books to screen. I hope it holds up.
Same, I caught last night's episode and it was damn good.
Though like someone said, they cheaped out on the Ganymede attack.
They..really are moving away from the book.
I'm really curious as to where that's gonna lead. So far i don't think they're even gonna get to Prax, but they seem to be hinting at some foreshadowing for Book 5 related events. Could they be skipping out on books 3 and 4, or condensing them down into one season?
Yes. But why does that matter for the post-Venus story in this episode? It does not.
BTW, show is more and more moving away from the books.
They..really are moving away from the book.
I'm really curious as to where that's gonna lead. So far i don't think they're even gonna get to Prax, but they seem to be hinting at some foreshadowing for Book 5 related events. Could they be skipping out on books 3 and 4, or condensing them down into one season?
She simply could not pull that speech off and the director should've recognized it and gone for scheming, calm anger rather than bombastic rage. Avasarala is equal parts of both as a character, but on the show they have to use what they have and focus on an actor's strengths and weaknesses and they're not doing that with Shohreh at all.
Who's the actor who played Epstein? The guy reminds me of Will Wheaton.