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The First(of many!) Offical GAF Halo Tournament

Trasher

Member
Match Results for Teams 2 and 3:

CTF High Ground - Tie game: 1-1

KotH Narrows - Team 2 wins: 250-191

Team Slayer Guardian - Team 3 wins: 50-45

Overall winner: Team 2


Edit: *Shakes fist at Wispy*
 

Trasher

Member
The Wispy Scoundrel said:
I don't mean to be a killjoy (no pun intended), but that's messed up. If the first game is a tie, then there are no winners or losers. So the next two games following were up for grabs. We should still have to play a decider - Team 2 did not win the first game.

Anyway, nice playing with all you guys, finally! :D
Well I think technically we both won the first one. That's how Bungie scores it! :)
 

Ramirez

Member
IMO, a tie counts as a win for both teams. However, if everyone on those teams disagrees you're more than welcome to play another, good luck getting everyone together again. :p
 
Good games tonight guys. It is kinda a crappy deal for the losing team is there anyway this could be remedied for later games maybe like neutral flag or something instead of 1 flag. Cause we did both tie a game and win a game it is just a matter of which order the wins fell
 

Ramirez

Member
Well I originally wanted to run Multi flag on The Pit, but a lot of people said they don't like the Pit so I went with 1 flag instead. Like I said, feel free to play another game if your team feels it is actually 1-1. :p
 
Ramirez said:
Well I originally wanted to run Multi flag on The Pit, but a lot of people said they don't like the Pit so I went with 1 flag instead. Like I said, feel free to play another game if your team feels it is actually 1-1. :p

lol i see where you are coming from man with the first counting as both wins and you set up the tourny so i would say it is your call. I would just say for later games i would def go with a neutral flag because it is just a hazy situation as to who won i can see arguments from both sides unless everyone one else involved thinks we should stick with the one flag
 
I'd also like to thank team 2 and there captian trasher for being understanding about my retarded internet connection here at my parents house that made me drop those games. I appreciate it guys, and it was fun:D
 

fin

Member
Ramirez said:
As for Team 1/Team 5, how does Sat. at 6 EST sound? Pretty sure I have work off, but if I don't I'll report back.

Saturday works for me.

Did you guys use GAF Guardian 3 or normal?
 

Trasher

Member
Cap7ain Blood said:
lol i see where you are coming from man with the first counting as both wins and you set up the tourny so i would say it is your call. I would just say for later games i would def go with a neutral flag because it is just a hazy situation as to who won i can see arguments from both sides unless everyone one else involved thinks we should stick with the one flag
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Blood, this is not Nam, this is Halo, there are rules.
 

t4ng0

Member
is blueblur off the grid - my pm's fall by the wayside...

deepblue- care to organize your team and shoot me a pm on what times work?
 

ianswoody

Member
Super awesome great games tonight, guys. Sorry I BOOKED outta there right after the 3rd match, but I was already late. Team 2 r00lz!
 
Ramirez said:
If 4v4 cannot happen between the teams, then 3v3 is to be played. If one team has 4 show up and the other 2, then you all can pick to give the other team your extra guy.

What happens if the team who gained a person wins? Does the extra player continue playing for this team, or will be be out of the tournament, since his "real" team lost?

And finally seeing a game being played makes me all the more anxious to play our match.
 

Ramirez

Member
Jack Scofield said:
What happens if the team who gained a person wins? Does the extra player continue playing for this team, or will be be out of the tournament, since his "real" team lost?

And finally seeing a game being played makes me all the more anxious to play our match.

He would then become a part of the winning team.
 

Trasher

Member
I would just like to say that don't worry too much about what works and doesn't work right now with the tournament. Try to look at this as a beta. We will have this all worked out soon enough, and the second tournament will be much better. :lol
 
Trasher said:
I would just like to say that don't worry too much about what works and doesn't work right now with the tournament. Try to look at this as a beta. We will have this all worked out soon enough, and the second tournament will be much better. :lol

trasher looks at team 3:D
 

squatingyeti

non-sanctioned troll
Here's an easy solution:

Game 1 is One flag on high ground. If after the rounds, the game is a tie you play a sudden death. Restart. If the offense scores, the defense has ONE chance to score or game 1 is over. If the defense stops the offense, and then scores on their offensive turn, Game 1 is over. That makes it like a college football overtime. Each team gets a chance to win, but if Blue scores on offense and Red fails, blue wins. Blue fails on offense, Red scores, Red wins Game 1.

Then, there wouldn't be this Tie game. It seemed as though Team 3 was better at One flag, while team 2 dominated KOTH. Unfortunately, since you can tie, team 3 will go to the losers bracket.

Does that One flag option make sense to people?
 

Trasher

Member
The Wispy Scoundrel said:
Considering it was hardly made clear in the Tournament rules, and everyone on Team 2 & 3 agreed to playing that last game on Guardian, we should be given the benefit of the doubt and have to play a decider. It's only fair. :)
K, see you in three weeks when we can all play again.
 

fin

Member
Update:

I've heard from 3/4 players on Team 5, and it's good to go on Saturday, I'm still waiting on Cuckoo.
 

Deepblue

Banned
t4ng0 said:
is blueblur off the grid - my pm's fall by the wayside...

deepblue- care to organize your team and shoot me a pm on what times work?

Here's what BlueBlur had to say...
Sorry guys, I got sucked into Burnout last night. But no one messaged me though.

I've already PMed my entire team but I see the consensus is Wednesday night. I really don't want Jack to be left out though. I'm available every night after 6:30PM EST so I'm hoping we can knockout this bad boy on Thursday night or at least one or two days after.

If we can get everyone together tonight, that'd be great.
 
Just reminding you guys that I won't be able to make it tonight, so don't stick around and wait for me. I wouldn't mind team 6 finding a replacement for me, either, if that's even possible.

Good luck team 6! :)
 

EazyB

Banned
Deepblue said:
Alright, can we schedule Thursday at 6:30~ PST?

Jack's busy during weekday evenings.
Jack Scofield said:
All times are PST.

Tuesday: Any time between 1-4pm
Wednesday: 1-4pm
Thursday: 1-4pm
Friday: 1-4pm

I can also play after I get out of work, but that varies, so it'll be a long shot. The weekends should be a bit more open for me, though, especially Sundays.

In two weeks, my work schedule will be changed to Friday, Saturday, and Sundays as my days off, which would be ideal, but I'm afraid that's too long from now. :(
If we want to get everyone in we'll have to push it off until the weekend :(
 
Like I said before, if you guys can get everyone (minus me) online at the same time, go for it. I don't want to be the one person who holds back this match. I'm well aware that my current schedule doesn't allow for many playtime options, and I have no problem with someone replacing me as long as it helps get the game played.

I'll be ready for the next tourney, though. Like I said before: in two weeks, I won't have to work weekends anymore. That should be a major plus for whenever tournament two begins.
 

squatingyeti

non-sanctioned troll
Trasher said:
So does Team 3 want to do a rematch tonight on one Flag until someone wins? :lol

And can my team be there?


I'm not upset. I'll take the loss. I think it makes sense going forward though, don't you guys? If people start playing one flag to a win, it isn't done for both rounds, unless neither team scores, or both teams score during the 1st wave. It should be college football rules. Each team gets a chance at offense. If the score is still tied, continue playing until one team scores and the other doesn't. If the team that was defense first, scores first, they win. The offense already had their shot.

Example:

One flag is played and both teams score 1 capture. Overtime is played.

Blue is offense/Red is defense in overtime. These results could happen:

Blue scores, Red has their offensive round to score or they lose.
Blue does not score, Red scores, Blue loses.
Neither team scores, continue playing following above guidelines.

I for one, think going forward, that is a better idea than having a tie.
 

Trasher

Member
squatingyeti said:
I'm not upset. I'll take the loss. I think it makes sense going forward though, don't you guys? If people start playing one flag to a win, it isn't done for both rounds, unless neither team scores, or both teams score during the 1st wave. It should be college football rules. Each team gets a chance at offense. If the score is still tied, continue playing until one team scores and the other doesn't. If the team that was defense first, scores first, they win. The offense already had their shot.

Example:

One flag is played and both teams score 1 capture. Overtime is played.

Blue is offense/Red is defense in overtime. These results could happen:

Blue scores, Red has their offensive round to score or they lose.
Blue does not score, Red scores, Blue loses.
Neither team scores, continue playing following above guidelines.

I for one, think going forward, that is a better idea than having a tie.

Agreed.
 
EazyB said:
Jack's busy during weekday evenings.

If we want to get everyone in we'll have to push it off until the weekend :(
I'm going to New Hampshire for skiing and visiting the parents this weekend, but I'll definitely be bringing the XBox and tv :D. With enough notice, I'll be free anytime Sat, Sun, and Friday night.

I'm also free tonight. I'll get on around 7 est, and just stay on (as away, if I'm not playing).
 

EazyB

Banned
Revengeance said:
I'm going to New Hampshire for skiing and visiting the parents this weekend, but I'll definitely be bringing the XBox and tv :D. With enough notice, I'll be free anytime Sat, Sun, and Friday night.

I'm also free tonight. I'll get on around 7 est, and just stay on (as away, if I'm not playing).
Good deal, hopefully, at the very least, we'll get this first game done by the end of the week.
Maybe we'll have enough for 3v3 tonight (~ 7 PST?), we should at least try. Leaders, get those PMs out.
 

EazyB

Banned
Jack Scofield said:
Just got home from work REALLY early. Did teams 4 and 6 play their game?
Unless I missed it, no games were played. There wasn't even much of an attempt to get a game going :(

But hey, at least you didn't miss anything.
 
Well, Ramirez said that the 3rd game is only needed if the first two games are tied, and he is the tournament creator so he can make and change rules as he wishes.
Although, it probably should of been mentioned before the tourny started.

To me, it doesn't make sense to not have a clear winner after an odd number of games.
I play for fun, so the outcome doesn't matter that much to me.
If the majority of players want a rematch, then one should be held I guess.
 

Trasher

Member
roosters93 said:
Well, Ramirez said that the 3rd game is only needed if the first two games are tied, and he is the tournament creator so he can make and change rules as he wishes.
Although, it probably should of been mentioned before the tourny started.

To me, it doesn't make sense to not have a clear winner after an odd number of games.
I play for fun, so the outcome doesn't matter that much to me.
If the majority of players want a rematch, then one should be held I guess.
Pretty sure it is just Wispy that wants one haha. Blood and I agreed it would be too much of a hassle to get our teams together again for one game. So we are just gonna move on. We now know how to set it up for next time though.
 

squatingyeti

non-sanctioned troll
Ramirez said:
It's double elim, so it's not like they're done for good anyways.

Oh, I beg to differ. Team 3 was done when they were stuck with me.


On a different note, do you think the idea I had is good for One Flag? Every game from here out could use it, and I think that would make the games the most fair. One team could be just a little better at One Flag, but still tie under the current settings. While the other team may be just a little better at KOTH, but there is no tie, so they win the whole thing. The team that's better at KOTH doesn't need to try to win One Flag, they just need to hold on.
 

fin

Member
Team 1 Vs Team 5 Saturday at 1:00 EST? We need to have it earlier for our UK friends.

Post here if you are available or PM me.
 

Blueblur1

Member
t4ng0 said:
blueblur appears not to notice pm's, so deepblue - feel like organizing that thur team 4?
Sorry, I've read them all, but I haven't responded. I thought I had made it clear that we would wait it out till the weekend for Jack. Regardless, let's get this going on Saturday.
 

Trasher

Member
The Wispy Scoundrel said:
Nah, I know it would be a hassle to set the game up again, there's no denying that. Personally I just don't feel your win was justified - make no mistake though, I had a fun time playing with you all, but a tie game doesn't equal a win or a loss for either team in my opinion. A tie is a tie - simple as that.
Yes, we all understand that. There was never an argument about that.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
From today to Sunday
Free : 2pm EST - 8pm EST.

I'm in the UK and I need to get up for work early, I can push to 9pm EST if the games drag or takes a while.
 
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