The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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Any explanation to why the Reverse Flash didn't see the fireball coming and dodged it?

Yea, this show dulls the reflexes of speedsters way to much. You can run and be in perfect control at 600 mph, but still get constantly your shit kicked by people punching at regular speed?
 
Yea, this show dulls the reflexes of speedsters way to much. You can run and be in perfect control at 600 mph, but still get constantly your shit kicked by people punching at regular speed?

It makes sense though. Speedsters in this universe need to engage into superspeed mode. They don't always operate on it. Otherwise any form of talking to your enemy would be impossible. RF would also be waitin few minutes to see Barry drop on the ground after the hit.

The should have made Firetorm attack RF from side or behind, but generally you definitely can get a drop on Flarroweverse's speedsters
 
Jesus this has definitely got to be one of my favourite TV series of recent memory. Flash is one of my favourite Superheroes and I'm glad he's getting a worthy show, wish the Arrow started this well off at the start but hey they used it as a stepping stone to create this magnificent show.

Reverse Flash is terrifying O.o
 
I'd say that it makes sense with Barry, because like it's been mentioned multiple times already, he's not trained, has no experience and is generally sloppy. But the Reverse Flash is many levels above him, so I'd expect him to easily sense that attack and at least dodge it. It could've still worked as a distraction, to get him away from Barry. It's not like he seemed hurt by the hit anyway.
 
Another damn great episode of The Flash, this really has been one of the best new series so far and I cant wait to see where it goes.

Also there is some really great acting going on too, especially from Joe and Barry. Barry’s “Up until now you were in here because of the man in the yellow suit. From here on your in here because of me” was a fantastic line and he acted the hell out of it.
And Joe’s “The world needs The Flash….But I need Barry Allen” brought on the feels big time, I was also impressed with how well he acted scared after his first run in with RF.

As I said before, cant wait to see what happens!

As for the Story, I think RF is Thorne, for the simple fact that he wasn’t killed by RF (Which they made a point to mention) and its clear he knows how Barry feels for Iris and is even starting to doubt her so this will be his path to the dark side. How Wells ties into this, im not quite sure but I think the end reveal was probably a red herring.
 
Yea, this show dulls the reflexes of speedsters way to much. You can run and be in perfect control at 600 mph, but still get constantly your shit kicked by people punching at regular speed?

Get used to it. It's going to happen for the entire show's run.
 
So, when will Firestorm get his round with Felicity?

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Nah. It's Good Guy Eddie. If they turn him it will be something drastic, like Flash fucking up and causing some true damage. Or I can see Wells manipulating him by showing that Flash will cause something catastrophic if he's not stopped.

They really set up Eddie was a very stand up guy. Which will make his fall a lot more interesting, but this fall will need to be properly explained.
Zolomon's story in the comics matches Eddie's the closest.
Paralyzed by Grodd and increasingly bitter at the Flash. I imagine a paraplegic Eddie would be rather open to Wells popping out of his chair and offering him a Flash cure.
 
Zolomon's story in the comics matches Eddie's the closest.
Paralyzed by Grodd and increasingly bitter at the Flash. I imagine a paraplegic Eddie would be rather open to Wells popping out of his chair and offering him a Flash cure.

I was thinking about that too earlier, I'd be surprised if they didn't go down that route somehow.
 
Zolomon's story in the comics matches Eddie's the closest.
Paralyzed by Grodd and increasingly bitter at the Flash. I imagine a paraplegic Eddie would be rather open to Wells popping out of his chair and offering him a Flash cure.
Yeah. I'm kinda hoping for that. But I hope it's a long burn.
 
Between Eddie and Wells they both jumble up to make Thawne and Zolomon, I assume they mixed up the elements between them on purpose.
 
While I wouldn't rate any episode higher than 6 in the season (most of them barely scratching a 5) this last one was really great, solid 9 at least, hope the show delivers from now on and stops the lame bad-of-the-week formula.
 
We already see that he has an obsession with stopping the Flash. It's only going to get worse and the inevitable breakup with Iris is going to push him further over the edge. It's only a matter of time.

You'd think that now that Joe has broken the secret of metahumans to him, and with him having seen the Reverse Flash in person, he'd explain that there's one good one and one evil one.

I mean, Joe did point out that the Flash saved both of their lives, though Eddie couldn't have seen it.

Barry also needs to go apologize to Eddie like he did to Iris. Explain that he was mind controlled. I know they won't do this because "TV DRAMA", but if he actually gave a fuck about not being public enemy #1 he should try and smooth this over now that Eddie is in the loop.

I still think that Eddie will play the role of Hunter Zolomon in this universe, with Wells being the traditional Reverse Flash.
 
good episode overall

not liking the scientist chick and the nerd guy, i hope both are killed by the end of the season

What's up with the "I don't like character X, I hope they die" thing? Why not... I dunno, hope they pick up some character development? Or just get on a bus?

I see it a lot, and it's always a little offputting.
 
Why CBS though? Actually, why are they doing Supergirl?

Noticed the dirt at the bottom of the gif. Neat.

The CW is the result of a fusion between a Warner Bros and a CBS network. It is supposed to air 50% CBS shows and 50% Warner Bros shows. It is however heavily slanted to Warner Bros shows. Supergirl on CBS can be considered a gift to make up for that.
 
Rewatching the episode and Caitlin straight up thinks Iris suspects Barry is The Flash. Not only that but she tells her to confront him directly.
 
The CW is the result of a fusion between a Warner Bros and a CBS network. It is supposed to air 50% CBS shows and 50% Warner Bros shows. It is however heavily slanted to Warner Bros shows. Supergirl on CBS can be considered a gift to make up for that.

But CBS already airs a lot of Warner Bros. shows. Some of CBS' biggest hits are Warner Bros. shows.
 
Can Henry Allen be exonerated now?

I can't replay the video at work, but I know that Joe West confronts Reverse Flash and asks him why he killed Nora Allen. I can't recall if Reverse Flash responds or takes responsibility for the act.

Obviously the existence of a the Reverse Flash tends to corroborate Barry Allen's juvenile testimony exculpating his father for the murder of his mother. However, Joe advises Eddie that they need to keep silent about the world of metahumans (which implies they're the only two to survive the encounter with Reverse Flash, otherwise the other task force members would need to be a part of their conspiracy towards silence as well).

On one hand, I understand Joe's reasoning, but on the other hand, they have to account for the fact that an entire task force was killed! I don't see any way that you can just write that off. So if you have to go through the effort of justifying why they all died, couldn't that same level of proof or explanation be raised to address Henry Allen's innocence?
 
Can Henry Allen be exonerated now?

I can't replay the video at work, but I know that Joe West confronts Reverse Flash and asks him why he killed Nora Allen. I can't recall if Reverse Flash responds or takes responsibility for the act.

Obviously the existence of a the Reverse Flash tends to corroborate Barry Allen's juvenile testimony exculpating his father for the murder of his mother. However, Joe advises Eddie that they need to keep silent about the world of metahumans (which implies they're the only two to survive the encounter with Reverse Flash, otherwise the other task force members would need to be a part of their conspiracy towards silence as well).

On one hand, I understand Joe's reasoning, but on the other hand, they have to account for the fact that an entire task force was killed! I don't see any way that you can just write that off. So if you have to go through the effort of justifying why they all died, couldn't that same level of proof or explanation be raised to address Henry Allen's innocence?

Well as we saw on Arrow's episode the media is saying that a "Mysterious yellow blur attacked Star Labs". So they definitely have to have said SOMETHING.
 
Can Henry Allen be exonerated now?

I can't replay the video at work, but I know that Joe West confronts Reverse Flash and asks him why he killed Nora Allen. I can't recall if Reverse Flash responds or takes responsibility for the act.

Obviously the existence of a the Reverse Flash tends to corroborate Barry Allen's juvenile testimony exculpating his father for the murder of his mother. However, Joe advises Eddie that they need to keep silent about the world of metahumans (which implies they're the only two to survive the encounter with Reverse Flash, otherwise the other task force members would need to be a part of their conspiracy towards silence as well).

On one hand, I understand Joe's reasoning, but on the other hand, they have to account for the fact that an entire task force was killed! I don't see any way that you can just write that off. So if you have to go through the effort of justifying why they all died, couldn't that same level of proof or explanation be raised to address Henry Allen's innocence?

The existence of RF corroborates Barry's claims to an extent but there's still no actual hard evidence of it. Short of making RF confess to the crime, there's no way to exonerate Barry's father. Which is a problem that I've had this entire time with Barry's statements about freeing his father.

I mean the civilian world is not only not overtly aware of Metahumans but they're not at all equipped to imprison or even detain them for crimes. So it would be an incredible uphill battle in getting any kind of legal justice with RF and Barry's dad respectively.
 
I kind of assumed it was the guy in the wheelchair from the future. He is the Reverse Flash right? Or are there more? He even speaks in the same voice the last scene.

It's possible that it is him, yes. Or he could be leaving that suit for future Eddie to discover and travel back in time to kill Barry's mum (that device he put on the suit at the end is a time travel thing, I assume)

That's one theory anyway.
 
What's up with the "I don't like character X, I hope they die" thing? Why not... I dunno, hope they pick up some character development? Or just get on a bus?

I see it a lot, and it's always a little offputting.

You see, death is the deepest character development possible for a character. Just ask Aunt May.

It's possible that it is him, yes. Or he could be leaving that suit for future Eddie to discover and travel back in time to kill Barry's mum (that device he put on the suit at the end is a time travel thing, I assume)

That's one theory anyway.

One of the reverse Flash's powers operate by slowing down time around them rather than actually moving fast. Could just be powering up the suit as far as that goes.
 
Well as we saw on Arrow's episode the media is saying that a "Mysterious yellow blur attacked Star Labs". So they definitely have to have said SOMETHING.
Thanks for that heads up:

The existence of RF corroborates Barry's claims to an extent but there's still no actual hard evidence of it. Short of making RF confess to the crime, there's no way to exonerate Barry's father.
I'm not sure that's the standard though. Most exonerations are based on irrefutable DNA, true, but there have also been post-conviction relief based on faulty forensics, police practices, etc. Eyewitness testimony of two active police officers would be given decent weight compared to the lack of investigation the first time around. They have to explain the Task Force getting slaughtered somehow and their word is good enough for that.
 
So how is wells beating his self up in that force field if he is indeed reverse flash? Is he just that fast?

They said there are two reverse Flashes later in the episode.

Also Wells likely being a time traveler could potentially make beating himself up possible.
 
They said there are two reverse Flashes later in the episode.

Also Wells likely being a time traveler could potentially make beating himself up possible.
I just took that as Barry eventually being able to time travel and going back in time to try and stop reverse flash that night, which is why Barry as a kid is zoomed away into the streets so that he is safe from their fight around his mom, yet reverse flash kills his mom anyways.

But since there are two reverse flashes, are they working together?

This episode has officially confused the hell out of me lol.
 
I hope we get to see Firestorm use his whole power set (transmuting things, etc), then be more than just a Human Torch type character.
 
They seem to be. How else did Wells end up inside that force field?

Maybe the Wells at the end of the episode is the future version of Reverse Flash that stole the device and he has the exact same lab setup?

Or Wells is in cahoots with RF since he should have recognized RF's voice.

this is why i hate time traveling storylines.....
 
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