The people in the cars on the dam and the Flash.
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The people in the cars on the dam and the Flash.
Jest Chillin
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All of the people on the road whose cars he threw off. Flash had to literally grab people out of falling cars to save their lives. That's pretty blatantly attempted murder.
But that happened after he'd been locked up originally.
Jest Chillin
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He still attacked police officers with a deadly weapon and attacked Flash as well. He did a lot more than vandalism.
OK I was downplaying it with the vandalism but how long would he be in jail for really? He get life without trial or parole just because he knew that STAR labs was involved with the Flash and the fact that Barry seems to enjoy locking people up like that just doesn't fit the boy scout hero hes made out to be. Even Ollie doesn't seem to enjoy locking his villains up and hes a nutter.
Jest Chillin
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He's more dangerous than your run of the mill criminal. That warrants special circumstances. The fact that he escaped the Star Labs cell is solid evidence that a normal prison isn't equipped for someone with his talents.
As far as trials go.. They sit right next to bathing and eating 3 square meals a day imo. Meaning unless it directly contributes to a plot point... It's mundane and useless to address in the show.
Night Hunter
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BTW, I just thought of something. Iris is supposed to be this shows Laurel. But as of right now they solved the whole "she can't know my secret" stuff pretty smoothly. Normally it gets dumb really fast because they get in danger anyway and it just doesn't make sense to not tell them (e.g. Laurel).
But as of right now Iris has only been in real trouble twice. With the Clock King it had absolutely nothing to do with Barry and she resolved the whole thing herself. And with Girder she only got in trouble because she ignored the warnings and put herself in contact with the Flash and thought it would be a good idea to write about it on the internet. So basically until now the whole "keeping my identity secret from the woman Iove" thing has actually worked out.
But as of right now Iris has only been in real trouble twice. With the Clock King it had absolutely nothing to do with Barry and she resolved the whole thing herself. And with Girder she only got in trouble because she ignored the warnings and put herself in contact with the Flash and thought it would be a good idea to write about it on the internet. So basically until now the whole "keeping my identity secret from the woman Iove" thing has actually worked out.
Barry also has a cover that Ollie doesn't. He works with the police and STAR labs, both know his story, so both can cover for him.
Where Ollie was just a rich vigilante with a hidden "Quiver" lair.
Ollie was usually out at night too. Barry does most of his stuff during daylight or early nighttime.
I get the sense everyone is going along with Wells re: the prison, and not thinking about the ramifications of it in the long-term. Barry hasn't really started grasping supervillain morality yet at any point - to him most of them are flat-out villains, and it's easier for him to view it that way.
But she is recurring on Flash. She's not a one-episode character.
Jest Chillin
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Recurring means consistently in, though not a main character. To use Arrow as an example.. John Barrowman, Manu Bennett, Cynthia Addai-Robinson, Audrey Anderson, all have recurring roles. Until/Unless Wally shows up.. there's no guarantee that she's going to stick around with any longevity. And actually the light they're casting her in with Barry makes her comic book connection to Wally more complicated to do here.
In any case, it really was just a comment to cite how she bounces around CW shows.
PHOENIXZERO
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She was a recurring character on Star-Crossed. Granted that show only lasted like 13 episodes but she was in 10 of them!
btw folks regarding the latest promos, the newer version confirms
, it's a teaser for February episodes.
John Barrowman and Manu Bennett are actually series regulars in season three and two respectively.
She is recurring. Multiple episodes.
the Firestorm stuff is not this coming episode but the one after
John Barrowman and Manu Bennett are actually series regulars in season three and two respectively.
She is recurring. Multiple episodes.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Honestly, there is really no point in trying to figure out the reasoning behind who gets locked up in Star Labs and who doesn't. Because they let Captain Cold and Heatwave go to regular prison. Yeah, you could say they're just regular guys that got their hands on some high end technology...but they did more damage than most metahumans.
From a writing standpoint, it's just easier to have them sent to regular prison (same with Clock King) because you can have a breakout scene, and then it doesn't have to be immediately addressed by Star Labs. So when the writers want to pull those characters out for a future episode they can.
I think people bringing up how weird the metahuman prison thing is, depends on how the character of that week is portrayed. When it is some psycho with powers, you can hand wave it away in your mind. But Pied Piper doesn't have powers. And they were ready to lock him up for the rest of his life for the attack on his family's business? It just comes off as super excessive in that case, especially when the character is getting a full backstory and his prior relationship to other characters on the show.
Somebody call the DCUACLU . Lol
From a writing standpoint, it's just easier to have them sent to regular prison (same with Clock King) because you can have a breakout scene, and then it doesn't have to be immediately addressed by Star Labs. So when the writers want to pull those characters out for a future episode they can.
I think people bringing up how weird the metahuman prison thing is, depends on how the character of that week is portrayed. When it is some psycho with powers, you can hand wave it away in your mind. But Pied Piper doesn't have powers. And they were ready to lock him up for the rest of his life for the attack on his family's business? It just comes off as super excessive in that case, especially when the character is getting a full backstory and his prior relationship to other characters on the show.
Somebody call the DCUACLU . Lol
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Huh. Yeah.
I mean... Snart and Rory know that Caitlin and Cisco are outta STAR Labs and Flash is connected as are their guns.
Given who Wells is, I think it's safe to say he doesn't want Captain Cold and Heatwave anywhere near Barry. The Rogues and Speedsters don't mix. Difference with Pied Piper is, per the comics, he's a tad more ambiguous and slightly redeemable.
Freewheelin'
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Good episode. The Pied Piper was a pretty cool villain, but is anyone sick and tired of the whole 'genius becomes villain because mentor ignored his advice' cliche? 
What is Wells doing at the end? I assume he's trying to get more Speedforce so he can be more speedy
Edit: Oh and when does Hamill come into the show? really excited to see him lol
What is Wells doing at the end? I assume he's trying to get more Speedforce so he can be more speedy
Edit: Oh and when does Hamill come into the show? really excited to see him lol
fallengorn
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What is Wells doing at the end? I assume he's trying to get more Speedforce so he can be more speedy
He's losing his link to the speed force so he's tapping into the goatse force.
Jest Chillin
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She was starring in that cast I believe. Show got cancelled though.
Barrowman was promoted to Reg in S3 as was Bennett for S2. Before that they were recurring. She only has two eps listed thus far. Regardless of what these articles cite, that's not exactly recurring yet. I mean Felicity has more appearances.
Freewheelin'
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fallengorn
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He's supplementing the speed force he's lost using the device, but it's not enough.
Septimus Prime
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This week, she pulls a
quantum fucking processor
Everywhere is calling her a recurring character. She's recurring until proven otherwise.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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What the fuck does she actually do at Palmer Tech?
Freewheelin'
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Ok...so is he trying to get Barry's somehow?
And do you think he's Future Barry and trying to get back to his time?
brotkasten
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The episode was okay. Not great, but better than last week's episode. I liked that they showed Wells' powers or rather his issues with them. Ultimately, Pied Piper felt pretty lame. Nothing he did or said had any real impact. Especially the "I know your secret!" part let me to believe that Wells would be forced to react a bit more extreme again.
Good to see that Daniel Radcliffe is getting some work, though.
Good to see that Daniel Radcliffe is getting some work, though.
fallengorn
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No. He's just trying to fix his personal link to the speed force, he isn't going to absorb it from Barry. (Which would screw up the timeline he wants to preserve.) He's probably going to try and absorb it from the other reverse flash.
Personally, i think he's Zolomon and I think he's in the past to train Barry so he doesn't disappear in the future.
It'd be pretty messed up if he was future Barry. If that's true, future Barry doesn't mind stabbing people.
Jest Chillin
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Future Barry theory makes no sense. If he's Future Barry then therr is no way for him to have the tech to monitor the future newspaper headline. Whoever Wells is, he came to the past prepared with what he needed to he able to monitor changes in the future.
Freewheelin'
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jesus Fw, Wells took a blood sample from a guy who could leech Barry's Speed Force away, what the hell else do you think he's up to?
:lol fair enough m8
Hmm, that makes more sense thanks. Just read up on Zolomon, I'm thinking that he could be Professor Zoom too or some kind of hybrid at least
I think it's actually that he's losing control of the speed force which is why his legs were vibrating
Jest Chillin
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What other Reverse Flash? Didn't the producers say there's just the one, or am I making that up?
Don't know if they have said but both Wells and A Reverse Flash were at the same place at the same time. I don't think RF could be THAT fast without Barry noticing.
Septimus Prime
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Barry is fast enough to take pictures of himself from a distance. RF is supposed to be way faster than him right now, plus RF ostensibly has some control of the Speed Force, so I don't know.
Jest Chillin
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He'd have to move so fast as to change clothes and make it appear as if he's being thrown around while showing a speed force trail while in Costume and no trail when he's Wells. I mean that would be on the level of those comic panels posted a page or two back where Flash is fast enough to transport an entire city away from a nuclear boast in under a second.
More_Badass
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Wait, how fast would that even be? The time between pressing the button and the camera taking the picture, has to be like miliseconds, right? That has to way past a few times faster than the speed of sound.
Septimus Prime
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According to this article, "Most modern DSLRs can handle shutter speeds of up to 1/4000th of a second." Since they were using a phone, let's just assume it's half that, so 1/2000, which is fast enough to take a pic like this:
Assuming the group was standing about 5m away from the camera, Barry would have to have moved at 10,000 m/s, or 22,369.36 mph (probably even faster, since he would have had to stop to take the pic and then run back before the camera falls). If you factor in acceleration, it gets even more outrageous. Sound, by the way, is 340.29 m/s, so Barry is moving way the hell faster than he should be able to on this show right now.
We also know that RF is as fast to Barry as Barry is to a regular person, since RF can do his vibrating face thing fast enough such that Barry can't see who he is.
So yeah. I think he can do it.
Jest Chillin
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Cell phones don't shutter and most top of the line cell phones have an extra hesitation as they do the auto focus/find face feature before they actually take the photo. Barry strikes me as the kind of guy who always has the new hotness. So I think you may be overestimating the speed of the camera.
Septimus Prime
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The new iPhone camera burst fires a bunch of shots (how does it not shutter, though? That's kind of fundamental to how a camera works). Plus, there is also the whole matter of him somehow not dropping the phone after he hits the button, which leaves only two possibilities:
1. if the CMOS is really fast, he has to run over, pause, return, and catch the camera before it falls, or
2. if the CMOS is slow, and/or there is a time lag, he has to run back and forth to steady the camera before it falls even a little bit or risk getting a blurry picture.
In either case, he'd have to move ridiculously fast--so fast that he's almost in two places at the same time. Someone even faster than him, then, could also do the same but have his performance be even harder to perceive.
More_Badass
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According to an article from last year, LG was touting their cellphone camera speed, supposedly the fastest yet, focusing in 276 milliseconds. Let's use that base line to factor in the phone's focus speed
PHOENIXZERO
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Looked like an Amazon Fire phone with a 2 second timer set maybe. Yay product placement!
StopMakingSense
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Digital sensors can just manage their exposing electronically, turning on and off.
Septimus Prime
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It was most likely a Windows Phone, given how prominently Windows 8 and Surface have been shown on both Flash and Arrow.
Ah. Okay, so then it's still just a matter of semantics. There's no physical shutter, but turning off the sensor achieves the same effect.
Jest Chillin
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Shuttering is the closing of the Iris to trap the light. I'm not a camera expert but I don't know if that's applicable outside of film using camera's. Since phone cameras and DSLR's both take stills and video, I'd assume that they're basically taking a screen shot of the image rather than actually shuttering.
Realistically though, he'd have to be incredibly accurate with his speed in order to not be even slightly out of focus. Which, I think, is beyond his level of control right now. So I would just chalk up this feat to "it works because they want it to work."
For the sake of theorycrafting.. sure. I can say, anecdotally, my LG G3 has a noticable pause between when I tap to take the photo and when the photo is actually taken. Enough of a pause that if my hand shakes it can blur the photo easily. Photos of my kids end up blurred all the time as they move after I've tapped. I don't think either myself or my kids can access Speed Force though. ;p
The clarify the process.. the phone will turn it's light on and re-focus before it "snaps" the photo.
We need Dr. Light and this could be the title od a cool episide.
pulga
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I'm becoming more and more convinced this show is an alternate reality/timeline that derived from the original Flash show.
PHOENIXZERO
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"Too Much Running" trailer
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=786403858118586
at the end lol
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=786403858118586
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