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[ShroudOfFate]

The timeline will only be clear once all the episodes have aired. It is like how we were struggling to find the moment where the Supergirl cross-over happened for almost a month. If the moment already happened, it could only have been during Versus Zoom.

Ah that's true. I guess I hadn't considered the Supergirl crossover and the way it worked out.

 

[KonradLaw]

Hows the current run? Kreisbergs run was an awful I love Felicity fest (and people say Guggenheim is bad). Hows Percy doing?

It's not bad. Not great either. It's not Grell or Lemire, but it's definitely better than any other New 52 run. I'm pretty hopefull for where Percy will take it next though. Guy is merely starting his comicbook career and there seems to be some growing pains. Most of all he seems to struggle against how little space the format gives you monthly, so some stories seem rushed. So it will be interesting to see how he will do with twice a month scheudle GA will get with Rebirth.

 

[ZeroX03]

Oh yeah, new episode tonight.

#2.20 "Rupture"
Episode Promo

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DC COMICS’ CHARACTER RUPTURE COMES TO CENTRAL CITY WITH ZOOM – Zoom (guest star Teddy Sears) arrives back on Earth-1 intent on taking over Central City. Barry (Grant Gustin) and Wells (Tom Cavanagh) come up with a plan to stop Zoom once and for all but it’s extremely stupid, just like typical Barry. Unsure if he should take the risk, Barry reaches out to both fathers for advice. Henry (guest star John Wesley Shipp) is adamantly opposed to Barry risking his life again but Joe (Jesse L. Martin) thinks he can handle it which puts the two men at odds with each other. Meanwhile, Cisco (Carlos Valdes) is shocked when he vibes the Earth-2 villain Rupture, who happens to be his brother Dante’s (guest star Nicholas Gonzalez) doppelgangster. Rupture came to this Earth seeking justice for Reverb’s death. Iris (Candice Patton) decides she’s finally ready to open up to Barry about her feelings for him: feeling sick of his stupidity. Armen V. Kevorkian directed the episode written by Kai Yu Wu & Lauren Certo (#220). Original airdate 5/3/2016.

 

[TheOddOne]

 

[DeathyBoy]

They should reveal that The Man In The Iron Mask is Walter Steele and be done with it.

 

[Xemnas89]

Here's a scene from tonight's episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLi31yjuIaA

 

[Joni]

They should reveal that The Man In The Iron Mask is Walter Steele and be done with it.

And every Flash character goes: who is that?

 

[DeathyBoy]

And every Flash character goes: who is that?

They'd never believe it. Zoom foreshadowing.

 

[Magwik]

The man in the mask is either: another Jay, Henry as Jay, or someone related to the larger DC comics mythos. Probably someone from the JSA or Legion of Superheros

 

[Tabby]

The man in the mask is either: another Jay, Henry as Jay, or someone related to the larger DC comics mythos. Probably someone from the JSA or Legion of Superheros

I still think it's Jay. He freaked out when Barry mentioned the name.

 

[brotkasten]

Seems like Flash will acknowledge the death on Arrow, in its upcoming

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Black Siren

episode.

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Rupture

seems to be a strong opponent. Better than Reverb even maybe.
And more Iron Mask teases.
http://tvline.com/2016/05/02/the-fl...aldes-cisco-brother-rupture-iron-mask-reveal/

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Hopefully he'll be a longer lasting villain. Like, 10 minutes, maybe.

I still think it's Jay. He freaked out when Barry mentioned the name.

They probably didn't know who was behind the mask yet, when they wrote that scene.

 

[Kyoufu]

They probably didn't know who was behind the mask yet, when they wrote that scene.

I really doubt that. They had to redeem the Jay Garrick name back when they wrote Fake Jay as Zoom. This was all likely planned from the beginning.

 

[Joni]

Spoiler

Hopefully he'll be a longer lasting villain. Like, 10 minutes, maybe.

That is a given, it is his one episode.

 

[TheCowboyPoet]

If we don't find out who's in that goddamn mask tonight, I'll riot. RIOT!!!!!

 

[Penguin]

If we don't find out who's in that goddamn mask tonight, I'll riot. RIOT!!!!!

Thought they already said won't be revealed until final scene of the season finale

 

[morningbus]

Thought they already said won't be revealed until final scene of the season finale

You say this like it's the first time someone just wanted to be angry in here.

 

[Ronin Ray]

The last few episodes have been so bad to me. Since they unmasked zoom it has been down hill.

 

[TheCowboyPoet]

Thought they already said won't be revealed until final scene of the season finale

WHAT!

 

[Sinatar]

Yea the man in the iron mask should be some complete nobody, make it a moment like this:

 

[ZeroX03]

WHAT!

Just in time for lots of character development.

 

[AlStrong]

Yea the man in the iron mask should be some complete nobody, make it a moment like this:

That would be perfect.

 

[Dereck]

The last few episodes have been so bad to me. Since they unmasked zoom it has been down hill.

It makes sense that since Zoom has no shame (has basically been wanting to steal people's speed to get faster), he's modulated his voice to make it sound deeper and has the ability to alter his eye color. He's really fast but I think the guy has low self esteem. He sounds and looks threatening but he's just a guy, just like Barry Allen. I think it makes him a more interesting character.

 

[Violence Jack]

Still going with Earth-2 Wally in the iron mask.

 

[Kyoufu]

Still going with Earth-2 Wally in the iron mask.

Why would Zoom keep Earth-2 Wally in there?

Also, Wally may not exist. After all, as far as Caitlin knows, she doesn't have a brother on Earth-1 but Killer Frost did on Earth-2.

 

[ZeroX03]

Still going with Earth-2 Wally in the iron mask.

Although "Jay" would probably know about Wally's familial situation, Zoom did know where Wally was and name him during the kidnapping.

Then again E-2 Iris and Joe didn't mention him, but maybe they didn't know he existed.

 

[Joni]

Still, masked guy seems white.

 

[tkscz]

I still think it's

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The real Jay. It's what he was tapping.

 

[Volimar]

I still think it's

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The real Jay. It's what he was tapping.

Yup

 

[brotkasten]

I really doubt that. They had to redeem the Jay Garrick name back when they wrote Fake Jay as Zoom. This was all likely planned from the beginning.

I thought they didn't know Teddy would be Zoom at the beginning of the season. Or do you mean they wrote the Mask Guy after the Jay Zoom switch?

Either way, I was more of a joke. While these things are normal in TV writing ("making shit up as they go"), it's becoming weird in the Arrowverse (the grave on Arrow, Teddy as Zoom).

That is a given, it is his one episode.

Hey! Killer Frost survived her first episode!

 

[Joni]

Hey! Killer Frost survived her first episode!

True, but she is always in the cast.

 

[Sephzilla]

My legit guess for the masked man is that he's

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a Jay Garrick that didn't agree to help Zoom. Zoom Jay straight up said he convinced himself from an earlier time to help him. Who says the Jay that helped him was the first one he talked to? Masked man could easily be a younger Jay that hadn't started Velocity stuff yet and thus had no reason to side with Zoom

 

[Joni]

My legit guess for the masked man is that he's

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a Jay Garrick that didn't agree to help Zoom. Zoom Jay straight up said he convinced himself from an earlier time to help him. Who says the Jay that helped him was the first one he talked to? Masked man could easily be a younger Jay that hadn't started Velocity stuff yet and thus had no reason to side with Zoom

Would be weird to kidnap him then, Hunter was never a good guy so no reason to remove him from the timeline.

 

[Apt101]

I mean. Pretty much half of the decisions they make on the show are dumb as fuck but it's still great.

 

[Sephzilla]

Fuck, I just realized something that makes my theory not work. NEVERMIND

 

[ZeroX03]

Nothing heroic in the Hunter we know.

 

[Xemnas89]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUyXUZ-snI

A new extended trailer for tonight's episode.

 

[ZeroX03]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUyXUZ-snI

A new extended trailer for tonight's episode.

That wasn't the right spell Cisco.

We don't normally get minute longs. Interesting.

 

[Vengal]

Iron mask speculation

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They've been pushing the similarities between Barry and zolomon so I wonder if the man in the mask is his reverse flash. Jay Garrick travelled back from the future to visit a supposed ancestor who was also a flash only to find out it was zoom. They still haven't explained how reverse flash Harry knew what Jay's helmet was just yet.

 

[Joni]

Harry Potter was on the show a couple of weeks back and they get Ron to cast

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Expecto Patronum

. That is weird.

 

[KonradLaw]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUyXUZ-snI

A new extended trailer for tonight's episode.

THis made me realize...why didn't we get those long ass awesome trailers for remaineder of the season for Arrow and Flash?

 

[KonradLaw]

Harry Potter was on the show a couple of weeks back and they get Ron to cast

Spoiler

Expecto Patronum

. That is weird.

Clearly we need an episode of Flash with Constantine guest starring.

 

[ZeroX03]

THis made me realize...why didn't we get those long ass awesome trailers for remaineder of the season for Arrow and Flash?

Legends got one.

The promo team only so much time and resources, so it's often devoted to the newer shows. Nothing tops that Arrow S2 long trailer.

 

[tim1138]

So if the man in the mask is

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the actual Jay Garrick

and the surprise appearance in the Legends finale is

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Alan Scott

are we heading to some incarnation of

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the JSA

across the shows next season?

 

[GulAtiCa]

I really loved last year's promo Heroes vs Villains fight club video from last year. Wish we got something similar for this year.

 

[Ronin Ray]

It makes sense that since Zoom has no shame (has basically been wanting to steal people's speed to get faster), he's modulated his voice to make it sound deeper and has the ability to alter his eye color. He's really fast but I think the guy has low self esteem. He sounds and looks threatening but he's just a guy, just like Barry Allen. I think it makes him a more interesting character.

The problem for me is he fought a speedster guy last year so I have no interest in Zoom. Him being a force of nature or some kind of monster that the speed force has wrapped because of his addiction to it is inherently more interesting to me.

 

[Xemnas89]

Chronicles of Cisco part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLsLzvp-dSs

 

[GulAtiCa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUyXUZ-snI

A new extended trailer for tonight's episode.

lol at Cisco at end.

 

[TheCowboyPoet]

Chronicles of Cisco part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLsLzvp-dSs

Is there an international version of this? In fact, was there ever one for part 2?

 

[Dereck]

Chronicles of Cisco part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLsLzvp-dSs

Yeeeeaaaahhh

 

[Joni]

So if the man in the mask is

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the actual Jay Garrick

and the surprise appearance in the Legends finale is

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Alan Scott

are we heading to some incarnation of

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the JSA

across the shows next season?

That has been a rumor since the tease for ma hunkel and friends.