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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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All this bullshit just for everyone to guess it right anyway.
I still have to catch up with Supergirl. What was the mystery this time around?
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Who Mon-El really is.
Savitar must always be trapped in the Speedforce to maintain the time loop. Savitar must also have a beginning. However, Future Barry never figured it out, so it's possible it is him. But then again, there are still two versions of Savitar. The one that was trapped in the Speedforce (presumably our Savitar) and the one trapped by Future Flash and or created after Iris' death.
MikeBreezy92
Member
Yeah I'm not feeling future Barry this late in the game. The rest of the season's mediocrity and legit lows hurt any hype.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Judging from Twitters reaction, GAF might have figured it but shitloads of people are shook right now.
Is it me or GAF is way too cynical about this season? Internet is fucking hyped right now.
Boogalogist
Member
Will there be an episode dedicated to his origins?
I noticed this as well. Some people have had an idea but it looks like a LOT of people are surprised.
I do agree they dragged this out a bit to long but this season has still been good. Bad seasons labels are for Arrow season 3 and 4 levels of bad. This season of Flash has been no where near that level of bullshit.
The show has been racing downhill since the end of season 1, season 2 gets the excuse it had to spend half the season setting up LoT shit, but this season? They spent 20 episodes on...nothing. Nothing happened this season. At all.
Poodlestrike
Banned
We called it way back 'cause it fit into our admittedly cynical (but not wrong) "Barry is the real villain" narrative. Sooooo much of this season's conflict is down to him fucking up over and over and over. So, like "Barry is LITERALLY the Big Bad" was an easy leap.
You know, in a vacuum, that's not a bad metanarrative. Shame it was executed so poorly.
You know, in a vacuum, that's not a bad metanarrative. Shame it was executed so poorly.
OdysseusVA
Banned
people buggin if youre thinking this is comparable to arrow's worst
MikeBreezy92
Member
Because we're in a place where you have people who know tropes very well talking about a tropey TV show.... We're nerds pretty much
This season isn't even bad. It's actually good imo because it has a great cast of characters. Arrow is another level because imo they went back to their roots.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I'll admit that S2 was kind of shit but IMO it's gotten better this season. I don't get the doom and gloom. This feels like discussing Skyrim on GAF.
Arrow's worst was at least watchable, I'll take Felicity in a fucking wheelchair and Laurel giving them her blessing over this season
it's not bad like Arrow S3 or 4, but it's felt meandering and lost a bit of it's charm. pacing issues, mostly.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's not even knowing the tropes (though obviously that makes it easier). It's having a sufficiently low level of faith in the show's procedure to figure out what the most ludicrous twist would be and then pushing that as the obvious choice.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Flash at it's worst is better than Arrow S3/4
Barry being Savitar was always the most logical choice if most people can guess it.
That said. It really doesn't matter. On twitter right now most people are shook or happy with the episode.
Will admit, next week's episode looks fun/funny. Too bad it's the 3rd to last episode..
Boogalogist
Member
Claude Augario
Member
I would take a lobotomy over watching Felicity stand from a wheelchair and walk out of Oliver's life or give him shit for finding out he had a son and not making it about her.
Flash S3 is LEAGUES ahead of Arrow's worst.
MikeBreezy92
Member
It's mainly because Barry has been an idiot (both of them) for long enough and it's starting to irritate a lot of us. This honestly started when Barry gave up Velocity 9 to Zoom and has been down hill since the biggest fuck up being Flashpoint and his reverse character development
Permanently A
Junior Member
Except like half the cast in Flash depressed all the time lol
It's certainly not like say Legends, where the great cast allows me to overlook any failings within certain episodes.
As others have said, this season is just boring.
Permanently A
Junior Member
Nemesis121
Member
Barry and Kara are the same...
I am Supergirl I am very powerful and super strong if I am dealing with Humans...I am actually weakling if i deal with anyone with some kind of strength...
I am Barry Allen fastest man alive also the dumbest, how many times he's going take a hit for someone instead of moving them out of the way and continuing the fight...
The writers for these shows suck and completely bring the characters down to moronic levels..
I am Supergirl I am very powerful and super strong if I am dealing with Humans...I am actually weakling if i deal with anyone with some kind of strength...
I am Barry Allen fastest man alive also the dumbest, how many times he's going take a hit for someone instead of moving them out of the way and continuing the fight...
The writers for these shows suck and completely bring the characters down to moronic levels..
OdysseusVA
Banned
Eh
I think I stopped watching S3 live and simply waited for it to become available online so that I could fast forward through anything with Felicity/drama. Im almost certain that carried over to S4.
The cast of Flash haven't been unbearable, annoying at times, but never have I considered dropping the show or waiting for an online version to fast forward through.
Maddocks
Member
I personally am enjoying the season a lot and think its just on par if not better then season 2. Season 1 will never be touched for me because it was just flawless in terms of characters and emotion and heart.
As a reader of the comics and everything having it be future flash is great, but if I never read the comics and didn't visit message boards to discuss the flash, I'm sure I would be shook to the core that they went this route.
As a reader of the comics and everything having it be future flash is great, but if I never read the comics and didn't visit message boards to discuss the flash, I'm sure I would be shook to the core that they went this route.
Yep
I literally did not watch for a month and shit ain't change
I could have watched the first few episodes, skip all the way till now, and nothing would have really happened. That's not good. I'm bored watching the show and that's not good as a viewer
Let's all talk about how great the Arrow reveal was. Middle of an episode surprise, pure confidence, maximum shook and totally played on our expectations.
And with only three episodes left, it's going to stay that way!
And with only three episodes left, it's going to stay that way!
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I did like his Freddy Krueger makeup though.
HoopzBarkley
Member
People are crazy, this is no where near Arrow season 3 bad, boring season but some episodes have been good and bad. Unless they have a decent explanation as of why this would happen. Im surprised that a lot of my comic book friends loved the reveal.
Nemesis121
Member
The Flash S3 |OT|Barry is the fastest man Alive..
Edit:The Flash S3 |OT I am the Fastest Man alive...
Edit:The Flash S3 |OT I am the Fastest Man alive...
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Fuck that's finally true hahaha
……forgetit
Member
So I finally got my girlfriend to watch the show. Her first episode of the Flash and halfway through the episode she says. "So the villain is Barry, right?"
BLOODED_hands
Member
This is pretty much me along with my annoyances at how nerfed they made Barry because they can't come up with anything to counteract his immense speed without nerfing him.
This season has just been
The enjoyment I have been getting out of this season was during moments that Barry gets his ass beat and when he does cool shit.
Damn
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Yeah but they spread it on thick in these last few episodes. Back when I was younger I sneaked into a Sixth Sense screening and immediately knew that Bruce Willis was a ghost. Because the movie was making it obvious near the reveal. People in the theater were losing their fucking minds.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
We've been preparing you for this for months, guys. It'd be fun to go back and find the first person to post that Barry is Savitar in here.
Anyway, I don't really see why the reveal that Savitar is an evil, corrupted Barry is making so many people angry. It's the only reveal that not only makes thematic sense but also offers the chance for some sort of character growth.
A corrupted Ronnie or Eddie not only does a disservice to those two characters, but it is also just pure fanservice wankery. There's no character growth to be had from it being Eddie.
"Oh, shit, looks like that time paradox hole really fucked Eddie up. Too bad we gotta put him down."
That's all you get from that route. And it may appeal to the lizard part of your brain as a tasty bit of fluff, but it's insubstantial and meaningless.
Now, if you have problems with the execution of everything this season, fair game. In that way especially, this season is like Arrow S3. I've maintained since that season wrapped that it actually sounds really great on paper and has some awesome story beats but is ultimately betrayed by its execution (and apparently some serious production issues). Flash S3 is probably going to fall somewhere in line with that, where there are a bunch of interesting plot points that sounds great when you talk about them but never actually come together to form a cohesive whole.
Anyway, I don't really see why the reveal that Savitar is an evil, corrupted Barry is making so many people angry. It's the only reveal that not only makes thematic sense but also offers the chance for some sort of character growth.
A corrupted Ronnie or Eddie not only does a disservice to those two characters, but it is also just pure fanservice wankery. There's no character growth to be had from it being Eddie.
"Oh, shit, looks like that time paradox hole really fucked Eddie up. Too bad we gotta put him down."
That's all you get from that route. And it may appeal to the lizard part of your brain as a tasty bit of fluff, but it's insubstantial and meaningless.
Now, if you have problems with the execution of everything this season, fair game. In that way especially, this season is like Arrow S3. I've maintained since that season wrapped that it actually sounds really great on paper and has some awesome story beats but is ultimately betrayed by its execution (and apparently some serious production issues). Flash S3 is probably going to fall somewhere in line with that, where there are a bunch of interesting plot points that sounds great when you talk about them but never actually come together to form a cohesive whole.