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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I don't think you know how TV works.
Barry shouldn't miss any episodes. He'll be gone for months (likely years for him) in screen time as it is.
Theres a good reason for that. His character is just as stupid if not more so than Barry.
Monochromaticx
Member
Are you talking about patty, Supergirl, the new girl that loved hr or whats her face from arrow?
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Barry dead now.
Time For Hot Pursuit Patty to come in
Time For Hot Pursuit Patty to come in
I mean yea, I doubt it too, but uh, it's more likely than Patty ever coming back
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Jessie Quick, Wally West, and Jay Garrick on Earth 1 for a few months while Barry finds his way back to the real world.
HoopzBarkley
Member
I feel like they could use this to actually write Barry as more confident and more heroic. I thought the finale was fine, though the season did suck.
More than killing off Iris, yeah.
Too many people here and in the Arrow OT have been like "Kill Iris/Felicity/Laurel"
Need to hop off thay shit.
kylecoley182
Banned
so high chance of the thinker being the villain next season?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'll fight anyone who says kill Laurel but both Iris and Felicity have long since overstayed their welcomes in their respective shows in my opinion.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Bingo.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Well, they did have the Philosopher's Stone cause that explosion that seemingly released a bunch of energy...
broncobuster
Banned
Iris just needs to have storylines around her job and personal agency. When she's written as, like, Barry's love interest who doesn't seem to have a life outside of that, there's not much to latch onto.
It's funny how in the Flashpoint episode, she the brains behind Wally's Flash. Maybe we see that dynamic a bit next season.
It's funny how in the Flashpoint episode, she the brains behind Wally's Flash. Maybe we see that dynamic a bit next season.
So I guess you conveintly forgot how awful the character if Laurel was when she was with Oliver. The CW shows have a problem that I've stated many times, they can't write SOs. At all. Supergirl, Flash, Arrow, Legends, all the shows deal with this. And people like you, who can't figure out how to fix a character beyond killing them because you don't like them, fuck up shows.
Lord Frieza
Member
I feel like I can't be the first one to think this, but I didn't see anyone mention it. Seems pretty obvious to me that Barry will become the Black Flash since Frost killed Hunter, but instead of a shambling zombie, he'll just be Barry in a black suit. And they'll pull some bullshit where he can leave the Speedforce for a little while before it goes crazy to help Team Flash and/or Wally will continuously run into the Speedforce to ask him how to deal with blah blah.
You guys never watched Smallville clearly.
"Main" villains, maybe, but he's definitely been out for blood against jobbers like Girder, Atom Smasher, and Sand Demon.
The Speed Force has been portrayed as being pretty Anti-Time Travel / Anti-Meddling with the Timeline. It showing up specifically to meddle with the timeline is either dumb writing, hypocrisy on it's part, or just means Barry's stay there will be temporary so the written events still come to pass.
Twice, and yes.
I mean you say that, but uh, Laurel has been annoying me for the longest time, while Felicity at one point used to be a cool character, and Iris hasn't done anything as annoying as the stuff Laurel has done over the seasons. (Her main issue is that they just don't give her anything to do imo) Just all that baggage the character had permanently soured me on her. That's part of why I like Black Siren. While it's quite the awkward situation if they try to redeem her, not that I know where they'll take it, but the actress is clearly having a much more enjoyable time playing as her, minus said baggage.
I never wanted Laurel to die, but uh, between her and Iris, only the latter's death (when it may have been real at the time) made me sad. With her death, I was like "Welp, won't lie, next season will probably be better now." While Iris dying on the other hand, she barely does again to begin with, and I'm already tired of Emo Barry and co., so that certainly wouldn't improve anything.
Admittedly, Felicity at times is kind of picking up Laurel's slack by doing similar stuff I disliked Laurel for doing, but she's the magical tech girl, more or less eternally useful.
But yea, deaths aside, I don't really blame anyone for liking those two over Laurel. Regardless, better writing is needed for the both of them. S5 has tried with Felicity to mixed results, hopefully Flash S4 will do more for Iris.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Undead Fantasy
Member
So what happens to RF now that Barry is out of commission?
Shouldn't that create a paradox?
Fuck shouldn't Savitar not existing create another singularity?
Shouldn't that create a paradox?
Fuck shouldn't Savitar not existing create another singularity?
Guessing you haven't watched Legends RF
was erased by Black Flash
Also speedforce
and inconsistent writing
Undead Fantasy
Member
I did but remnants of him should still be a thing in Flash.
If that wasn't he case then they should be changes in the timeline like Cisco turning into Casper.
Ragnarsson
Member
This talk of Barry's return is giving me Flashpoint flashbacks. I also think it would be great to have Wally as The Flash for a while and keep Barry in the background (I'm thinking of Fringe, season 4). However, this will totally be like Flashpoint - one episode and done.
MisterRoboto
Member
They should make Barry run Snake Way
Yup, haven't seen Jane, but can confirm Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is good shit
Can't wait for the Super Speedster transformation
Impeccable
Member
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I think writing suffers when there aren't rules. Supergirl sorta has the same issue, but to a lesser extent. The speed force on this show is a more nebulous concept than alien superpowers. In Flash, things just happen because of the speed force. When a show is more grounded, you have to come up with plausible explanations for why a character would walk away from their friends, why a city is in danger, etc. The speed force is a crutch for the writing in this show.
It doesn't mean they can't do speed force stories and make them interesting. It just means that even the physics defying speed force needs rules. It's like when a show has magic in it. If you don't establish "the rules" then shit can just happen and nothing matters. The rules can be a little vague. They can even be broken sometimes. But there has to be some sorta...boundary. Every season is a clean slate with these kinda shows. So you never know. They might get it together
1000000% agree with all of this. As a game designer myself, we have rules we set up for how the character can interact with the world around them. If you break the rules, there must be a reason SHOWN to the audience to explain how or why. Flash has gotten to the point where they don't care anymore to do that last part. They break rules all the time and never come back to it. It's frustrating as a fan and viewer of their content.