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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
The timeline changes once Iris lives, no? I thought at that point Savitar would lose memories of the future since it is now different and only have the memories Barry currently has.

Iris's death doesn't effect what happens with the Thinker.

Why would Future Barry lose everything? Worst case scenario everything would get rewritten as necessary. He's always from the future and it's clear that his memory gets updated.
 

LotusHD

Banned
Even if the audience found out Prometheus' identity early, it still took the cast a while to catch up. Too long. And even when they did, he still just disappeared and avoided saying or doing anything for episodes at a time. Like they still had to go to work together.

They found about his identity literally the next episode, so what are you even talking about lol

And him being forced to work together for a bit was awesome lol, it was the next step/evolution to when Slade showed up at Oliver's house. This villain who's ruining your life standing right in front of you, taunting you, but you can't just kill him right then and there.

I wished iris stayed dead...

am i the only one?

People who wanted Iris to die clearly aren't considering how depressed this would make Barry, for who knows how long. One of the common criticisms against this season is how we're so damn sick of mopey Barry, that the show is a lot more fun when him and the team are in relatively good spirits. What do you think happens to his mood when his fiance dies after spending the entire season trying to save her lmao
 
Decent enough even with that obvious HR sacrifice, I hope the Speed Schwartz keeps Barry but unless there's some WB fuckery we know that isn't happening.


Arrow has already done enough fridging of women in the lead character's life, we don't need The Flash to start doing it too.
 
I did not see that ending coming... I hope barry isn't gone forever as I love Grant as Barry Allen. and as much as I like Kid Flash I don't think that the show would have the same charm... who knows though.
 

caliph95

Member
If it is the same thing then what's the point in creating it in the first place? Also, the cold would make sense if it slowed the Black Flash down but to outright destroy it? Nope.
Same reason Cold Gun is supposed to shoot absolute zero (acts like generic laser sometimes and never kills anyone or turn a room into artic) and Heat wave is supposed to be absolute heat (even though that should destroy everything around them whenever he fires)
 

LotusHD

Banned
I did not see that ending coming... I hope barry isn't gone forever as I love Grant as Barry Allen. and as much as I like Kid Flash I don't think that the show would have the same charm... who knows though.

I mean, I much rather see Wally (and Jesse maybe?) at this point for a while myself. Dude's fun to be around compared to the perpetually mopey Barry nowadays:

infinitedancefosc0.gif


(RIP H.R.)
 

Jhoan

Member
The Flash is on par with Super Girl on being mediocre this season. I kept watching the latter out of habit and fell off with the former. Both shared the same habit of having their heroes be gluttons for punishment. I found the finale much better than Zoom's demise last season though and look forward to seeing a non-speedster villain.

Arrow and DC Legends of Tomorrow had a massive turn around in plot and quality writing so I hope the two aforementioned shows turn it around next season. Also, less Barry, more Wally and Jesse kicking ass for a while before Barry returns. We got a taste of it this season here and there but there's so much potential.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
Finale was average. At least Iris got a shot in, but I'm bummed Caitlin isn't joining back in right away.

And the Speedforce can fuck off.
 
I find it difficult to swallow that this show used to be my favorite superhero TV show and one of my favorite superhero media ever in S1 and has deteriorated so much in the past 2 seasons.
 

Freshmaker

I am Korean.
I find it difficult to swallow that this show used to be my favorite superhero TV show and one of my favorite superhero media ever in S1 and has deteriorated so much in the past 2 seasons.

It's fine. Given how it goes the past few seasons, Barry will be speedforcing two episodes. Then he'll return to fight an evil speedster.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I mean, I much rather see Wally (and Jesse maybe?) at this point for a while myself. Dude's fun to be around compared to the perpetually mopey Barry nowadays:

infinitedancefosc0.gif


(RIP H.R.)

God freaking dammit .. this show is absolute horseshit for killing H.R. I think it's safe to say the majority of people (here at least) would rather have had iris stay dead.
 

LotusHD

Banned
God freaking dammit .. this show is absolute horseshit for killing H.R. I think it's safe to say the majority of people (here at least) would rather have had iris stay dead.

Not while there's a whole multiverse of Wells that use every season...

Killing Iris would've been lame. But then again, I wouldn't have done a whole season around her death to begin with.
Or not give her anything to do in general. :p
 

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
God freaking dammit .. this show is absolute horseshit for killing H.R. I think it's safe to say the majority of people (here at least) would rather have had iris stay dead.

No.

Iris dying changes everything and effects the stories and lives of Barry, Joe, and Wally for the worse. H.R. dying changes the character Tom Cavanagh is playing.

Congratulations to Tom Cavanagh for creating a character who people actually care enough about to be upset over. This means Tom and the writers did their job.
 

Nabs

Member
I totes want Iris dead so we get another 3 seasons of Barry moping around. /s

Seriously, chill with the fridging. We're off that shit.
 

caliph95

Member
I'll politetly say screw the whole Iris should have died, while i agree the whole plot was pointless and dumb for a lot of reasons.

They still shouldn't kill Iris and she is my least favourite of the Flash team.

I would rather her get stuff to do and have character and they were always close but then forget and fridging will just give us annoying drama
 

Earendil

Member
I'm kind of tired of someone having to die at the end of every season. I realize it's a bit of a tradition with CW shows, but can we please stop?
 

Menaged

Member
I know the answer is probably speedforce, but I was left baffeled at why Savitar doesn't kill Iris the moment he knows she didn't die. It's not like it matters that she dies at Infantino street, but it's the fact that it break Barry, so...

Also, I hate the fact that Savitar wrecked Barry and crew in the first part of the season, and now Barry just phased through his suit and... that's it.
 

caliph95

Member
next season intro: http://i.imgur.com/wIag7La.jpg?1
I know the answer is probably speedforce, but I was left baffeled at why Savitar doesn't kill Iris the moment he knows she didn't die. It's not like it matters that she dies at Infantino street, but it's the fact that it break Barry, so...

Also, I hate the fact that Savitar wrecked Barry and crew in the first part of the season, and now Barry just phased through his suit and... that's it.
It's speedforce and for some reason other than time wimey and speedforce he had to kill her on that date and since Barry wasn't driven to beat him he doesn't need savitar to exist and he is doing his whole dumb endgame in order to prevent himself from not existing
 

Sanjay

Member
Iris's death doesn't effect what happens with the Thinker.

Why would Future Barry lose everything? Worst case scenario everything would get rewritten as necessary. He's always from the future and it's clear that his memory gets updated.

What about that episode where current Barrys memory was wiped and made Savitar a nonthreat to Iris.

It would have been a perfect time to end it that way and reset the show and get Patty back in and make Iris want Barry but Barry falls for Patty Allen West. Make it proper CW show, Love triangles.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
But guys, you don't understand. I want my white girl who said one nerdy line back.

No, the last thing we need is another Felicity.

Bring a new character or bring back Patty and write her differently. Iris is my least favorite character in the show, and her not being there anymore would be greeaaaaat as far as I'm concerned. An H.R and Wally spin off would have been great .. or if they're gonna send off Wally to the teen titans thing, H.R could have been there as that group's mentor/resident science guy etc etc.

There are so many better things that could have been done but the show-writers chose the most cliched way out.
 

Billfisto

Member
So, the Weird Newspaper's byline changed to Iris, showing that the future is now back as it was.

However, it still said "Flash Disappears in Crisis" or whatever, in like 2024. That basically guarantees Flash needs to come back out of the Speedforce before then to disappear again later. Unless the Speedforce was changing time by making Barry come hang out, in which case the Speedforce is a big ol' hypocrite.

Also, LOL at Barry murdering every other villain, but the one time the villain turns out to be him he's all "wait, let's be nice to this guy."
 

caliph95

Member
No, the last thing we need is another Felicity.

Bring a new character or bring back Patty and write her differently. Iris is my least favorite character in the show, and her not being there anymore would be greeaaaaat as far as I'm concerned. An H.R and Wally spin off would have been great .. or if they're gonna send off Wally to the teen titans thing, H.R could have been there as that group's mentor/resident science guy etc etc.

There are so many better things that could have been done but the show-writers chose the most cliched way out.

So, the Weird Newspaper's byline changed to Iris, showing that the future is now back as it was.

However, it still said "Flash Disappears in Crisis" or whatever, in like 2024. That basically guarantees Flash needs to come back out of the Speedforce before then to disappear again later. Unless the Speedforce was changing time by making Barry come hang out, in which case the Speedforce is a big ol' hypocrite.

Also, LOL at Barry murdering every other villain, but the one time the villain turns out to be him he's all "wait, let's be nice to this guy."
He only killed HR and bunch of other ppl that i can't remember

what dumber is how pointless it is it deserves its own episode but nope need to drag that mystery and have underwhelming grodd episodes that had to be a two parter
 

Menaged

Member
next season intro: http://i.imgur.com/wIag7La.jpg?1

It's speedforce and for some reason other than time wimey and speedforce he had to kill her on that date and since Barry wasn't driven to beat him he doesn't need savitar to exist and he is doing his whole dumb endgame in order to prevent himself from not existing

That's so so stupid. So basically they could've kept Barry without memory for 48 hours or so, and get rid of Savitar that way.
Great job writers.
 

LotusHD

Banned
No, the last thing we need is another Felicity.

Bring a new character or bring back Patty and write her differently. Iris is my least favorite character in the show, and her not being there anymore would be greeaaaaat as far as I'm concerned. An H.R and Wally spin off would have been great .. or if they're gonna send off Wally to the teen titans thing, H.R could have been there as that group's mentor/resident science guy etc etc.

There are so many better things that could have been done but the show-writers chose the most cliched way out.

Why not write Iris differently?
 

Sanjay

Member
Also, LOL at Barry murdering every other villain

This is not ture at all, Barrys never killed any of his main villian in all three seasons. You can't find a worst hero then Barry Allen. He actually fails at being a villian too. He's a total failure as a hero and villian. I hope Kid Flash next seasons the real deal.
 

Wingfan19

Unconfirmed Member
So, the Weird Newspaper's byline changed to Iris, showing that the future is now back as it was.

However, it still said "Flash Disappears in Crisis" or whatever, in like 2024. That basically guarantees Flash needs to come back out of the Speedforce before then to disappear again later. Unless the Speedforce was changing time by making Barry come hang out, in which case the Speedforce is a big ol' hypocrite.

Also, LOL at Barry murdering every other villain, but the one time the villain turns out to be him he's all "wait, let's be nice to this guy."
Yup, I immediately said out loud as Barry was saying good bye that you LITERALLY just saw the newspaper headline which means you'll be back. I am really starting to hate how the writers are hand waving away so many plot holes and not abiding by rules set forth when they started the show. There should be a giant white board in the writers room with all their time travel rules written on it in permanent marker.

They're treating their audience like morons and appear to have this "we can do no wrong" chip on their shoulders due to one great season of TV.
 

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
So, the Weird Newspaper's byline changed to Iris, showing that the future is now back as it was.

However, it still said "Flash Disappears in Crisis" or whatever, in like 2024. That basically guarantees Flash needs to come back out of the Speedforce before then to disappear again later. Unless the Speedforce was changing time by making Barry come hang out, in which case the Speedforce is a big ol' hypocrite.

Barry wasn't removed from the timeline yet. I imagine they could go check again and the story would be different.
 

Mokujin

Member
Now after Shield another show that gets scared to explore real sensible deaths just for the sake of keeping the main cast and only "red shirts" recruited for the season are the sacrifices.
 
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