Sir_Crocodile
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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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RomanticHeroX said:
True, but Newey's getting old now <_<. In all seriousness I don't think the difference will necessarily be drastic but it should make for a more competitive field, allowing drivers to make more of a difference. I'm already excited for Valencia and just to see where things go.
bloodforge
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That was a fantastic race. Yay for Button winning!
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This is as good as it gets with the current technical regulations though, it may seem slightly artificial, but it certainly provides us with exceptional entertainment.S. L. said:
EarsOfASnake
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This.Reno7728 said:
What did I say? McLaren will win in Canada 
The WDC was over at Monaco. Vettel has a ridiculous lead, they need him to have 2 DNF's and a very poor result where the next person outscores him by 12pts (if equal Vettel will win on win count).
The ban might introduce reliability problems for the Renault engine but quite frankly no one expects this to be big. All it should do is bring Red Bull back to the pack. Vettel will have to be seriously unlucky not to win the WDC now.
The Ferrari's and McLaren's will trade wins with each other. No one will dominate. I think Alonso would have been very strong in a dry race today.
As for the race itself, can not draw conclusions on relative speed of cars on a rapidly drying track. It's just a lottery if your setup will fit a green track. Jenson came quids up and was able to pull it off with the aid of DRS. In a normal situation the speed differential between the Red Bull and McLaren would have been minimal and both would have had around 0.7s/lap on Michael not 2secs.
As for whether Jenson should get a penalty. That would be a rubbish call by the stewards, penalising every single racing incident. I HATE post-race penalties, just do it during the race. I thought it was a racing incident, though Alonso may see it differently and quite frankly he may have a case since that corner is not normally an overtaking zone.
The WDC was over at Monaco. Vettel has a ridiculous lead, they need him to have 2 DNF's and a very poor result where the next person outscores him by 12pts (if equal Vettel will win on win count).
The ban might introduce reliability problems for the Renault engine but quite frankly no one expects this to be big. All it should do is bring Red Bull back to the pack. Vettel will have to be seriously unlucky not to win the WDC now.
The Ferrari's and McLaren's will trade wins with each other. No one will dominate. I think Alonso would have been very strong in a dry race today.
As for the race itself, can not draw conclusions on relative speed of cars on a rapidly drying track. It's just a lottery if your setup will fit a green track. Jenson came quids up and was able to pull it off with the aid of DRS. In a normal situation the speed differential between the Red Bull and McLaren would have been minimal and both would have had around 0.7s/lap on Michael not 2secs.
As for whether Jenson should get a penalty. That would be a rubbish call by the stewards, penalising every single racing incident. I HATE post-race penalties, just do it during the race. I thought it was a racing incident, though Alonso may see it differently and quite frankly he may have a case since that corner is not normally an overtaking zone.
Harry_Tequila
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Great race once the rain moved on. I especially enjoyed Massa passing Kobayashi on the finish line.
Thought Vettel was just going to hold on at the end and it was surprising to see him crack for once. Button did well to put him under pressure at the end, getting into the DRS zone on the penultimate lap was probably the straw that broke the camel's back and gave Vettel one too many things to think about.
Hadn't noticed it before but people on this board are insanely bitter about Hamilton. He was to blame for hitting Webber at the beginning but really he just slid into him after he drifted onto the wet side of the track. Button was solely at fault for the other accident and even apologised to him for it. Don't get it really.
Finally, despite hating him while he was in F1 the first time I am actually genuinely disappointed that Schumacher missed out on a podium, I quite like him these days.
Thought Vettel was just going to hold on at the end and it was surprising to see him crack for once. Button did well to put him under pressure at the end, getting into the DRS zone on the penultimate lap was probably the straw that broke the camel's back and gave Vettel one too many things to think about.
Hadn't noticed it before but people on this board are insanely bitter about Hamilton. He was to blame for hitting Webber at the beginning but really he just slid into him after he drifted onto the wet side of the track. Button was solely at fault for the other accident and even apologised to him for it. Don't get it really.
Finally, despite hating him while he was in F1 the first time I am actually genuinely disappointed that Schumacher missed out on a podium, I quite like him these days.
Psychotext
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You mean except for Brawn's debut season?Juicy Bob said:
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The incident between Alonso and Button will probably go without a penalty. While Button was behind Alonso, he was on the racing line while Alonso had gone wide into the corner.
So it was a case of both drivers being somewhat at fault and therefore a racing incident rather than an avoidable collision.
So it was a case of both drivers being somewhat at fault and therefore a racing incident rather than an avoidable collision.
Flo_Evans said:Only because vettel is coasting out front... And look what happens. Be interesting to see what kind of gap he pulls next race
Actually back when the greatest team of all time raced, Ross always had a simple strategy: Do only what is needed to win. The Ferrari's cruised for many races during 2002 & 2004. Several races they could have lapped the entire field. Spa 2002 especially, they had devastating race pace due to Ferraristone's on the F2002. The car was built for the race, the fact it shitted on the rest of the field in qualifying was always a bonus.
anonnumber6
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That was almost a Kimi-Suzuka tier drive from Button, fantastic drive. The real point of interest is how he managed to be 1 second a lap quicker than Vettel when the dry line emerged. Schumacher's best race since his comeback and you can't help but feel DRS was too much of an advantage today based on how easily Schumacher was passed by Webber and Button. Alonso's and Button's incident was a racing incident, Alonso had a fair reason not to yield and Button had the inside line.
Vettel choked but with such a large advantage in the WDC it is his to lose regardless of the throttle overrun ban.
ALonso was unlucky in the first stops, played the strategy I think is the best to play of following the performance and not the forecast.
BBC F1 in my opinion did the best job today. For the whole five and a half hours I was not bored, just imagine how awful it would have been if Legard was still lead commentator.
Vettel choked but with such a large advantage in the WDC it is his to lose regardless of the throttle overrun ban.
ALonso was unlucky in the first stops, played the strategy I think is the best to play of following the performance and not the forecast.
BBC F1 in my opinion did the best job today. For the whole five and a half hours I was not bored, just imagine how awful it would have been if Legard was still lead commentator.
And are they all red?shas'la said:
Anyway, this race just proven that F1 is still the world leading racing series, even despite an epic Le Mans and a decent MotoGP at Silverstone. From a downpour to the race of the championship, I don't mind that it took 4 hours to complete, it was worth it.
anonnumber6
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Really uncomfortable moment to watch just like the McNish crash at Le Mans with the spectators behind the barrier.abunai said:
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Has everyone forgotten that the McLaren's had a better wet/race setup. Their gamble worked.
Also "cruising to victory" by leaders only came about when the engine number restriction was introduced to increase reliabilty as well as reducing costs for the teams.
Also "cruising to victory" by leaders only came about when the engine number restriction was introduced to increase reliabilty as well as reducing costs for the teams.
abunai said:
This race has provided so much entertainment
Rain and more rain
Hamilton and Webber
Hamilton and Button
Rhianna + Rain + Umbrella
Camera man falling over and probably filming Rhianna's under parts
George Lucas
Liuzzi Boots
Kobayshi car camping
Schumi charging up the field
Red shoulder birds + bird friends
Button Bumping Alonso out
Steward flopping around the track like a fish out of water
Button charging and winning
Vettel LOL
So much
anonnumber6
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He pitted after Button.Flo_Evans said:
RomanticHeroX
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The era of Schumi cruising to victory usually saw a dozen engines or so blow per weekend, and that was just from Honda. The reality is any car leading with a comfortable margin goes into cruise mode because there's nothing to be gained from pushing harder than is needed.
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