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[mclem]

And now it's official: RBR done for this test.

On the bright side, at least Bahrain's reknowned for it's pleasantly cool climate...

 

[Mastah]

Multi21 laps over 4 days of testing.

 

[mclem]

21 laps over 4 days of testing.

Heck, I could walk that!

I wouldn't particularly want to, but I could.

 

[Psychotext]

At least Bashi is getting some good mileage in. I suspect it's feeling pretty good to be back.

 

[DBT85]

Multi21 laps over 4 days of testing.

boom

 

[theignoramus]

I love the last sentence even more:



Surely you chosing to take the money from places like Korea, India, Bahrain or Abu Dhabi instead of racing in countries that love F1 has nothing to do with it, right Bernie?

I dont mind the sound of the new turbos, but the rules and regs about the fuel dont really reflect the spirit of F1, they reflect the spirit of an endurance race like LeMans

 

[brotkasten]

Horner:

"It's been a very difficult test,We have had numerous Renault issues as well as chassis cooling issues, which have affected our progress. What we have managed to learn shows that the problems should be solvable for the next test in Bahrain. There will now be a lot of focus on the dyno over the next few weeks."

 

[Juicy Bob]

But is the problem Renault, or how the Renault engine fits into their car?

Kobayashi's managed almost a full race distance so far today and he's got a Renault engine.

 

[Psychotext]

The problem they have now is clearly cooling related. There were other Renault problems over the last few days though (mostly ERS related).

 

[brotkasten]

But is the problem Renault, or how the Renault engine fits into their car?

Kobayashi's managed almost a full race distance so far today and he's got a Renault engine.

It's a problem with Renault's battery and a problem with how Red Bull packaged the power unit.

 

[DBT85]

By the sound of it they even moved the turbo from where Renault suggested it go lol.

Why bother sticking to what the people who make the thing tell you!

 

[DrM]

Nice mileage from Mercedes

 

[Dutch Gronk]

Alonso with 60+ laps is good news, but compared to what the Mercedes is doing it's peanuts.

WAY TOO EARLY SEASON PREDICTION of the week

Mercedes is gonna dominate the early part of the season, with Ferrari hobbling behind all season thanks to terrible qualifying sessions. Red Bull will get their shit together right before the mid-season break and compete with Mercedes for the title with Ferrari falling further behind in the process.

1. Rosberg
2. Vettel
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Kimi

1. Mercedes
2. Red Bull
3. Ferrari
4. Mclaren
5. Williams
6. Lotus

 

[chadskin]

Newey screw up confirmed.

 

[Juicy Bob]

Today I learned that Daniel Ricciardo is taller than I expected, a lot skinnier and also speaks Italian.

 

[Mastah]

Another Renault bites the dust:

Caterham F1 Team ‏@CaterhamF1 2m

Our positive Friday has unfortunately come to a close with a Power Unit component issue ending @kamui_kobayashi's day in the car early.

 

[Psychotext]

Heads...roll...

 

[Staab]

Sutil crashed again... lol :/

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Renault reliability™

 

[brotkasten]

Today I learned that Daniel Ricciardo is taller than I expected, a lot skinnier and also speaks Italian.

It always made sense to me, because of the name, but I was never certain about it. Much like I would've expected Di Resta to speak Italian.

 

[Mastah]

Sutil is clearly enjoying driving his Sauber with new power unit, but so far his talent is not good enough to keep it on the circuit:

 

[Psychotext]

"Cold Tyres"

 

[Mastah]

"The torque amount came in too aggressively"

 

[Risgroo]

Ugh, I think Sauber are in for an awful season. Their driver line-up is just so mediocre.

 

[chadskin]

Ugh, I think Sauber are in for an awful season. Their driver line-up is just so mediocre.

Yeah. Should've signed Bianchi.

 

[Juicy Bob]

I heard Kobayashi's Caterham spluttering on his way into the pits and saw a whiff of smoke too. Shame for him, but he's done a decent load of laps.

 

[Goldrusher]

Now there's an interesting sponsor...

 

[Pimpwerx]

Only started reading this thread again. Any websites with timing from testing? The site from last year is still showing last year's results.

Also, I'm just learning about this double points thing and change of penalties. Also, I like the change to the numbering system. NASCAR drivers are identified by their numbers for the most part. It will be nice to have a set number you can follow over a driver's career.

I really hope Merc can get the championship this year. Lewis deserves a dominant car, dammit. PEACE.

 

[DBT85]

Nice full explanation about that trick McLaren rear suspension

http://www.f1technical.net/development/435

 

[Goldrusher]

Only started reading this thread again. Any websites with timing from testing? The site from last year is still showing last year's results.

times:
http://www.f1today.net/nl/live-update

photos:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/01/31/jerez-test-day-four-pictures/
http://www.formule1.nl/media-library/images/dag-4-in-jerez/
http://ticker.auto-motor-und-sport.de/
http://f1.f-e-n.net/

 

[Mastah]

This time K-Mag wasn't so lucky, he hit the barriers:

 

[mclem]

Kevin Magnussen seems to go off more in the dry than the wet

 

[DrM]

Final day lap count by manufacturer
409 laps for Mercedes
209 laps for Ferrari
70 laps for Renault

 

[mclem]

Final day lap count by manufacturer
409 laps for Mercedes
209 laps for Ferrari
70 laps for Renault

Three-quarters of which were Kobayashi.

 

[Pimpwerx]

times:
http://www.f1today.net/nl/live-update

photos:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/01/31/jerez-test-day-four-pictures/
http://www.formule1.nl/media-library/images/dag-4-in-jerez/
http://ticker.auto-motor-und-sport.de/
http://f1.f-e-n.net/

Thanks. That's not live timing, though, is it? I wish f1tests.org was updating this year. PEACE.

 

[dubc35]

I hope Renault is able to fix their issues for everyone except RBR. Although then they'll fix it in time for the last 10 races with quintuple points so Vettel will still win WDC.

Double points gimmick is still so fucking stupid.

 

[Risgroo]

I hope Renault is able to fix their issues for everyone except RBR. Although then they'll fix it in time for the last 10 races with quintuple points so Vettel will still win WDC.

Double points gimmick is still so fucking stupid.

If someone steals the title from Vettel because of double points, it will be the best thing ever. If Vettel is 49 points behind into the last race and grabs the title, I'll fucking kill someone.

 

[DrM]

I think that folks at Williams are having a party today, because they made a stellar move with engine supplier change

 

[NHale]

I hope Renault is able to fix their issues for everyone except RBR. Although then they'll fix it in time for the last 10 races with quintuple points so Vettel will still win WDC.

Double points gimmick is still so fucking stupid.

Helmut Marko after the panic meeting yesterday said the main problem right now is not the Renault engine, it's the car.

If you read between the lines, in yesterday's interview Ricciardo didn't appear very sure the car will be ready for Melbourne.

If the rumors are true and the Red Bull problems are caused by the design of coke bottle and sidepods it will probably require a big change on the car that will not be ready for Bahrain.

If this is true (and it looks like it) they have to go the 2012 Ferrari route and try a short fix for damage control and try to bag some points when other cars DNF and at the same time develop a B-spec of the car which is something that will take at least 3 months.

 

[Osiris]

I can't understand how RBR didn't hit these issues on the dyno, I mean Jerez has been no warmer than the UK has been, so either they knew coming to Jerez they were going to have overheat issues or they've had very little dyno time either, if it's the latter then they really are behind.

Certainly makes the next test more interesting, that's for sure.

 

[dubc35]

If someone steals the title from Vettel because of double points, it will be the best thing ever. If Vettel is 49 points behind into the last race and grabs the title, I'll fucking kill someone.

I agree. Although in either scenario it gives the double points gimmick a huge lift in the "excitement" it creates, thus solidifies it.

 

[DBT85]

I can't understand how RBR didn't hit these issues on the dyno, I mean Jerez has been no warmer than the UK has been, so either they knew coming to Jerez they were going to have overheat issues or they've had very little dyno time either, if it's the latter then they really are behind.

Certainly makes the next test more interesting, that's for sure.

Because a dyno is a soundproof room with lots of ventilation and and engine in it, with bespectacled, pipe smokers sitting in a small booth behind a sheet of glass making vroom vroom noises.


It is about as far from being packaged too tight and off spec in the arse end of a car designed by a guy known to be a) a genius and b) uncompromising in his pursuit of a slippery car above all else including reliability, design specs and tolerances, as you can get.

 

[Osiris]

Because a dyno is a soundproof room with lots of ventilation and and engine in it, with bespectacled, pipe smokers sitting in a small booth behind a sheet of glass making vroom vroom noises.


It is about as far from being packaged too tight and off spec in the arse end of a car designed by a guy known to be a) a genius and b) uncompromising in his pursuit of a slippery car above all else including reliability, design specs and tolerances, as you can get.

Not entirely true, there are chassis dyno's as well as engine dynos, so the term can also be also used to refer to a similar system that can run the engines at working revs in-situ on the car, with the car's rear wheels sitting on a dual-roller arrangement.

A bit like this, although the one I saw at the Force India factory was not on a ramp, but was integrated into the floor of the factory.

 

[Psychotext]

Yeah, frankly I'm extremely surprised that they haven't simulated it with the sort of air pressure that they know an F1 car generates over a lap. How they couldn't have known until know just blows my mind.

Unless the engine wasn't completed until very recently.

 

[Osiris]

Yeah, frankly I'm extremely surprised that they haven't simulated it with the sort of air pressure that they know an F1 car generates over a lap. How they couldn't have known until know just blows my mind.

Unless the engine wasn't completed until very recently.

Judging by the Renault results across the board I'm guessing this is the case.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

Alonso with the most laps on the day. SUCK IT MERCEDES! CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!

(I know that little bugger Hamilton actually did like 40 laps as well, but we all know Ferrari is gonna crush my hopes and dreams once again at some point this season, so might as well enjoy it now)

 

[Psychotext]

Renault admit to a "litany of issues" with their power unit.

 

[DBT85]

Renault admit to a "litany of issues" with their power unit.

There you go, the gremlins from Ferraris wind tunnel have moved to Renaluts Dyno.

 

[Osiris]

Renault admit to a "litany of issues" with their power unit.

Wow, those issues do not sound small, fixable sure, but there's no doubt they are seriously behind, and are going to remain seriously behind even at Bahrain, because Ferrari and Mercedes are not going to be standing still between now and Bahrain either.

I'm sure issues will be mostly gone by the first race, but there's no doubt Renault powered cars are going to be at a disadvantage in the early part of the season at best, and could have a mixed or even horrid time for the whole season at worst.

 

[f0rk]

Would be hilarious if Vettel won his 5th world championship because of double points in the last race after the car being bad for the first half of the season.