Really? Been to many? I found the Nurburgring extremely restricted. We were only allowed on a small stretch of grass along the second DRS straight.
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The Formula 1 2013 Season |OT| End of the Webber Era
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Really? Been to many? I found the Nurburgring extremely restricted. We were only allowed on a small stretch of grass along the second DRS straight.
Psychotext
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Are you talking about general admission? I only go for grandstands as I really don't want to travel all that way and then have to fight for a view.
They didn't do a big reveal or anything, but they have talked about it on twitter and stuff.
We can hope for a cancellation and a loss of license though
Well T4RG4 was saying on twitter that anyone that liked F1 2012 will love F1 2013. We are in for a treat, fo sure.
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
I read this and was like, "well 2011 (ps3) was good but they just needed to change the framerate, and the wet driving model, and...." Oh yeah it is codeinterns after all.
Oh god, I cannot wait to see what a clusterfuck of a release it is. Prediction: Barely more than a service pack and roster update to 2012, will dumb down and remove features while screwing up wheel control even more. Fuck tyre wear scaling! Woo!
What's the bet that it'll be as representative of F1 as GRID/2 is to touring cars. Why couldn't we just get a TOCA-fied F1 game, for fuck's sake?
I'll just save myself the time and download a 2013 fan mod for 2011.
No-one will love 2013. You heard it here first, folks.
Well I guess that will be a no buy from me...
Scarbs posted a 2014 preview including the rules and a sketch of what a car could look like.
http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2013/07/08/2014-rules-first-look/
8 forward gears, ratios fixed for the whole season
smaller front wing
lower nose (tip only 18cm off the floor)
no lower beam wing at the rear
shallower rear wing
single fat exhaust pipe exiting 18cm beyond the rear axle and between 30 and 55cm high, no bodywork rear of the exhaust axis.
With no blown diffusers, smaller front wings and less df from the rear wing, the cars are going to be car more skittish
http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2013/07/08/2014-rules-first-look/
8 forward gears, ratios fixed for the whole season
smaller front wing
lower nose (tip only 18cm off the floor)
no lower beam wing at the rear
shallower rear wing
single fat exhaust pipe exiting 18cm beyond the rear axle and between 30 and 55cm high, no bodywork rear of the exhaust axis.
With no blown diffusers, smaller front wings and less df from the rear wing, the cars are going to be car more skittish
hahaha well that's sealed my decision before even seeing the game.
Scarbs posted a 2014 preview including the rules and a sketch of what a car could look like.
http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2013/07/08/2014-rules-first-look/
8 forward gears, ratios fixed for the whole season
smaller front wing
lower nose (tip only 18cm off the floor)
no lower beam wing at the rear
shallower rear wing
single fat exhaust pipe exiting 18cm beyond the rear axle and between 30 and 55cm high, no bodywork rear of the exhaust axis.
With no blown diffusers, smaller front wings and less df from the rear wing, the cars are going to be car more skittish
Fixed gear ratios? Da fuq.
I hope so, I want someone to ask how many patches they expect to release for this one.
Bahahaha. I bet it still takes them another three or four months to "complete" it, which just includes 3.5 months of T4RG4 promoting it and two weeks deciding which bugs to leave in for the first patch to rectify.
PS. I found an exclusive scan of the cover:
Good man.
Fixed gear ratios for the whole season? That's fucking *massive*, I had no idea. So they have to decide them at the start, or are they the same across all teams?Scarbs posted a 2014 preview including the rules and a sketch of what a car could look like.
http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2013/07/08/2014-rules-first-look/
8 forward gears, ratios fixed for the whole season
smaller front wing
lower nose (tip only 18cm off the floor)
no lower beam wing at the rear
shallower rear wing
single fat exhaust pipe exiting 18cm beyond the rear axle and between 30 and 55cm high, no bodywork rear of the exhaust axis.
With no blown diffusers, smaller front wings and less df from the rear wing, the cars are going to be car more skittish
PS. Will be interesting to see how Vettel adapts to something that as you've said, will have less DF in general. I remember quite clearly that when the rear diffusers were banned he took quite a while to come to grips with the car... can't remember what year that was, maybe 2010?
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
First time hearing about fixed gears here too. Going to be interesting how that turns out.
Dutch Gronk
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Scarbs posted a 2014 preview including the rules and a sketch of what a car could look like.
http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2013/07/08/2014-rules-first-look/
8 forward gears, ratios fixed for the whole season
smaller front wing
lower nose (tip only 18cm off the floor)
no lower beam wing at the rear
shallower rear wing
single fat exhaust pipe exiting 18cm beyond the rear axle and between 30 and 55cm high, no bodywork rear of the exhaust axis.
With no blown diffusers, smaller front wings and less df from the rear wing, the cars are going to be car more skittish
8 gears, all at fixed ratios D: ?
Even smaller wings?
So basically we're getting GP2 without all the crazy drivers (An argument could be made for Maldonado and Grosjean).
Scarbs has another article up on Autosport, same info as he has in his own blog but with a few additions:
Car will see a massive loss in downforce and aero grip. Its going to be HP/fuel consumption and mechanical grip that will be the key next year.
You can see why Newey isn't keen on the new regulations.
Mercedes and Lotus with their FRIC systems will be at an advantage.
Car will see a massive loss in downforce and aero grip. Its going to be HP/fuel consumption and mechanical grip that will be the key next year.
You can see why Newey isn't keen on the new regulations.
Mercedes and Lotus with their FRIC systems will be at an advantage.
Each team can pick each gear ratio set for it's drivers at the start of the season. They are then locked in to that for the whole season. Don't forget that with the ERS and the turbos, the cars are going to have more torque throughout the rev range compared to todays cars.Tracks like Monaco are outliers so they'll focus more on the rest of the races. 8th will be plenty long to prevent them getting stuck in the limiter at the low DF races with the DRS open.
Scarbs said the teams will have done lots of simlulations to get the best ratios for the whole season.
As scarbs said in the comments
Not only that, any team that doens't have a reliable ERS system is fucked. 160bhp comes from that system for 33 seconds a lap. If someone had Webbers canny luck with KERS then they would really struggle.
Without even going into *deeper* things, the MAIN CONCERN should be making the linearity for wheels NORMAL.
I am lucky to have Fanatec wheels where I can manually adjust the linearity and steering degrees indepenetly of the game (on consoles naturally), but 95% of people outthere with Logitech wheels are screwed.
F12012 patch for steering didn't solve linearity issues because 320/330 setup is still superior to 270.
Add all other problems now.
Interesting, what is the date? I guess Team VVV will be there, looking forward to his impressions.
What am I mostly interested in is next-gen PS4 version of the game which I will buy nontheless of anything if 60fps will be standardized.
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
I'd be surprised if 2013 gets next gen versions. That team struggle enough as it is putting it out on three platforms.
Video footage of the FOM cameraman getting hit by Webber's wheel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvO9fzPp-SE
Yeah the BBC do a live World feed that broadcasters can take. No preamble or anything and nothing after the driver interviews on the podium.
We broadcast it to some airlines and cruise ships.
The problem with reviews is that they play with controllers. And for controller users, F1 2012 is by far the best game made by Codemasters because you can actually drive the car with some precision unlike previous games.
Unfortunately, the game is borderline unplayable to the large majority of people that use wheels. I'm not convinced that they didn't do it on prupose after the constant whining from controller users about people with wheels being faster than them online...
Prepare to be surprised. T4RG4 was joking the other day that during their "always fantastic" afternoon races on the studio, the AI was so good that it looked like real people, to which he said on a tweet "maybe someone turned on the Cloud"...
I'm ready for Drivatar Massa Edition in F1 2013.
Thursday. I'll be there, so I'll try and find out as much as I can and give you guys a proper impression.
re: gear ratios:
hmm, no more platypus nose but not sure about the drooping nose either.
scarbsf1 said:
hmm, no more platypus nose but not sure about the drooping nose either.
scarbsf1 said:
Sounds great, thank you in advance!
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
In that case, I imagine we'll get an "Unparalleled clusterfuck."
8 gears is probably the biggest "wuuuuut" to me. 7 is just such a magical number, and I associate 7 gears with F1. With 8, it's really, really strange. I guess I'll get used to it, even with simulation when it catches up, but it's really a big change. And the fixed ratios. I'm so accustomed spending a few hours getting to know a new track, finding ratios, and looking at youtube videos of Schumacher to see how he had it.
I guess that's gone.
I guess that's gone.
Jezbollah
Member
8 shorter ratio gears allow for fewer gears to be used at Monaco (ie 1-6/7) but still use the top gear for Monza.
Exactly. My head is just full of all kinds of fuck!
Mastah
Member
Already taken down by FOM :/
8 forward
Depends on the team. Teams with a lower front bulkhead than others (McLaren) might look better than teams that had to resort to the platypus nose (everyone else).
ClassyPenguin
Banned
They should put that on the boxart.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
No your not. But again, if Kimi was riding a donkey I'd probably say that's the best looking car on the grid
RukusProvider
Banned
How much slower are we expecting the cars to be next year?
These things stopped being F1 cars since 2009. Truly the pikey clusterfuck of the forever.
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
The cars can't continue to get faster ad infinitum. Things change, so must F1.
PdotMichael
Banned
I'm not sure what's the point of fixed gear ratio is.
It doesn't save money and it gives the team and drivers less options to pull out the best of the cars.
But yeah, businessmen in charge of making the F1 "more interesting".
It doesn't save money and it gives the team and drivers less options to pull out the best of the cars.
But yeah, businessmen in charge of making the F1 "more interesting".
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Josh Hill has quit motor racing ending the possibility of a 3rd gen F1 champ.
The greatest helmet design is finally retired
The greatest helmet design is finally retired
Evolution_1ne
Banned
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
Josh Hill has quit motor racing ending the possibility of a 3rd gen F1 champ.
The greatest helmet design is finally retired
Aw man, that would have been great to see. Hope he's out for his own reasons as opposed to not getting the right opportunities.
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
I wonder if one of the ramifications of this will be that teams aren't allowed to fuck around with the design of their wheel nuts.
Couple of seconds a lap, mostly down to cornering speeds being lower because of reduced DF. In terms of outright straight line speed they'll probably be the same.