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The Formula 1 2014 Season |OT| Who Will Win? Nobody Nose
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Another fun fact - Nico barely slowed down in last part of the race, he kept his advantage between 20 and 25 seconds, no matter how hard Riccardo raced on 2nd place. And looks like no fuel issues around, only Williams probably played it safe and backed down when they got that 6th place.
EarsOfASnake
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Sky team bringing up Jensons father during an interview is such a cheap thing to do.
Yeah i didnt like that. Dont think jensen did either.
This is what I was thinking all race long. It seems so risky with all the changes going out and how well Mercedes powered teams are doing.
massivekettle
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They had ERS issues. All things considered, they were pretty fast.
It looks like this, I reckon.
Mercedes >>>>> RBR > Williams 1/2> Ferrari/McLaren >> [the rest]
I don't trust Renault engines enough so far. I would put Mercedes>McLaren>Ferrari>Force India> the rest.
massivekettle
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Where is Williams?
brotkasten
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Apparently only the front brakes on Kobayashi's car worked.
Somewhere in there causing trouble. I think Massa will be a huge headache for the top teams all year long, certainly top 10 team and fighting for a spot in the top 5 all year long. They have a well designed car, what I held back with them in my prediction was overall engineering talent and budget for the rest of the season.
I feel so bad for him, right away when the reporters asked him, the first thing he said is "it was my fault" and then it pretty much goes to how the brakes work this season compared to last season.
brotkasten
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According to Kravitz, Ferrari is half a second per lap slower than Mercedes, even without their battery problems.
massivekettle
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Ferrari is 18kg overweight according to Kravitz.
Lewis suffered potentially from an failing electrical connector (which explained the misfiring).
Lewis suffered potentially from an failing electrical connector (which explained the misfiring).
And they need to install turbine protection cover, so that will up their mass for 3 kgs...
He probably got that from FP form, where Fernando managed to get to half a second deficit to Mercedes
I think the whole field is more then 1/2 a second behind the Mercs at the moment....take out the safety car and Ricciardo/Mag would have finished 35-40 seconds behind and that's with Rosberg cruising for most of the race
massivekettle
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Sounds about right. They were roughly 0.8-0.9s slower during the race, and that's with ROS coasting in the last stint.
massivekettle
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Indeed. The Force India is the worst Mercedes-engined car by quite a margin, too.
Psychotext
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There was a lot of talk of that being a possibility.
I did it when heard he was getting a gearbox penalty because I thought, for some stupid reason, that it was 10 places and that Force India would have more pace than they did.
Oh well.
Not sure how they prevent both going over and going under though.
Can't believe sky didn't use their 3D shit to show the car going under though. How close was the Williams to Kobayashi's head?
massivekettle
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All the angles I can see are from the front, but the car was definitely lifted off the ground. These people are some of the smartest around, they can find a solution (without making it ugly I hope).
Caterham twitter
Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperF1 2m
FIA says @danielricciardo's car "has exceeded consistently the maximum allowed fuel flow of 100kg/h"
Serious..
Psychotext
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massivekettle
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If they are serious about enforcing their rules, yes, it should be a DQ.
Fuck.
F1 Manager has been updated and here are the people in the top three positions.
Check the league page for the full list.
Check the league page for the full list.
They said there would be no leniency on the fuel rules.
The question is, at what point was he pushing hard enough to need over the limit fuel delivery. He was never keeping up with Nico.
Surely it's impossible to consistently exceed the maximum allowed fuel flow and not be fuel limited? I mean you could exceed it at points which would still be a rule violation but if you're consistently doing it then you're going to be eating far more fuel than competition who were fuel limited while Red Bull were not. It may be a sensor problem.
Psychotext
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I'm joint last with about a million others. I did pretty well on the Castrol one, but that was obviously more about predicting the results,
Safety car, aborted start.
They have the fuel flow sensor as well as data from the injectors so will be able to corroborate either way.
Joint 4th, I'll take it!
I think I forgot about something as I only picked the 4 things, not a Quali lap.
Yeah!
Equal first. Now to start the quick descent to the bottom
How's the scoring work? I have Kobayashi as my # 1 driver, I wouldn't have thought that would have helped my chances to be competitive
Edit - Never mind. Found the FAQ's
I meant in comparison to the competition who were fuel limited at points. They've all got the same amount of fuel, and an consistently over the limit fuel flow means you're eating more than competition who are under that limit. I could see he how could be over the limit say towards the end when they knew he had enough to get home which would still be a dq but not consistently throughout the race.
Psychotext
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We don't know if all the teams started with the full 100kg. They might have, they might not have. Also, consistently could mean any number of things here.
Edit - Wait, are you confusing the difference between the fuel flow and total fuel? Both have limits, and it's quite possible to exceed one without running out of the other.
Imagine that he chills out for 10 laps, doing a fuel flow of 80kg an hour. He could then have ten laps at 120kg an hour (not that he should be able to) without running out of total fuel.
evanswolves
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https://twitter.com/tedkravitz/status/445135537285111808
We're hearing Ricciardo has been disqualified for using more than 100kg/hr of fuel in race. Will post FIA confirmation ASAP
We're hearing Ricciardo has been disqualified for using more than 100kg/hr of fuel in race. Will post FIA confirmation ASAP
If there's found to be erroneous sensors or the difference is within a certain degree (let's say 1% so 99kg/h - 101kg/h), then Red Bull may still be able to argue their way out of this. 'Consistently' suggests either a sensor issue or they were 100% breaking the rules.
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