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The Formula 1 2014 Season |OT| Who Will Win? Nobody Nose
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pants
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I disagree, Kimi is certainly in the same league.
Eh, we'll see come seasons end, I hesitate to read too much into last season since they were fighting for effectively nothing, I figure with the title on the line we'll see this season who the better of the two is always had my eye on Nico since way back at Williams.
massivekettle
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It's clear that Kimi does not belong in the top bracket of drivers (Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel). He hasn't been the same on Bridgestone/Pirellis than on Michelins. Or maybe it's the McLaren he's missing? His overall pace is just not what it used to be in the McLaren, and I am a big fan of his.
Getting trounced by Massa in 2008 and 2009 did not help his standing, and he's also nowhere in the Ferrari at the moment.
What also doesn't help Kimi is his inability to drive a car that doesn't suit him or is badly setup. More than ALO, HAM, VET, he requires a car to his liking, much like Button indeed. Once he has that, he is unbeatable (see 2013 Australian GP), but if he doesn't have that, he is prone to get shown up by Massa/Grosjean, etc.
Hope Nico didn't bite off more than he can chew by saying he's going for the win this weekend. He has nothing to prove really, he's fast. If he wants to quiet doubters he needs to do it on track. Only way I see him winning the WDC tbh is if Lewis' has a higher DNF count due to mechanical failure. Not extending his 25 point lead after Aus isn't exactly doing him any favors either. If Lewis wins this weekend Nico is gonna have to show that he's just as hungry for that WDC as Lewis is or else it's a wrap.
freakzilla149
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I don't see how you can say that after Bahrain. Sure, Hamilton is a hothead and that could get him in trouble but it's not as big a worry from the front of the grid. Also, Nico just isn't on the same level as Hamilton, Alonso el al.
Edit: I think you're all making a bit of an assumption in thinking that Nico will be able to get consistent 2nd place every race and Hamilton will have the inevitable DNFs.
If they are allowed to battle, I can see them taking each other out at least once during the season, allowing someone else to win. However, I don't see that changing anything in terms of Mercedes still winning both championships at this pace. Nothing we are seeing indicates the other teams are making huge strides forward.
forget abot other teams,, so far hamilton has been actually pretty minded with his drive but he is not vettel. Ham was really pron to mistakes in mclaren due to presion and his agressive driving. I love how he drives and there is no doubt that he is the fastest but not the most reliable, anyway will see.
It utterly shocks me that people still think this. We clearly haven't been watching the same sport.
You're mad. By your own logic we can't compare Rosberg to Schumacher because they too, were effectively fighting for nothing.
Psychotext
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I think from the front he's going to be untouchable. He only loses it when he's trying to make up places that his car doesn't deserve.
I'm not sure they can. Mercedes have a very good aero package and their PU is just far superior. As the PU's are now locked except for software upgrades then I don't see how RB can get that close via software upgrades alone. I had hoped for the sake of the championship that it might get to the point where RB can probably compete in some of the more technical aero dominated tracks but the Merc looks as glued to the deck as the RB.
He doesn't need to be. There's a lot LESS pressure when you're leading the race KNOWING you have the fastest car on the grid i.e controlling the race. Granted that RBR didn't have the huge advantage that Merc is enjoying right now, but Vettel had no competition, unlike Lewis this year. There was hardly ever any reason for Seb to be on the limit like Lewis has been. There was a gap to RBR that Lewis and Alonso had to make up with raw speed/talent as their cars just weren't as good. While Seb on the other hand dominated his races to the point where he got bored, always with extra pace in hand and when he pushes the car, he's always told to back off. Compare that to the rest of the pack that's actually fighting for places and you're bound to have errors. And then there's 2012 where Lewis finally had a car that was on par with RBR, drove a damn near perfect season, only the have McLaren fuck it all up.
I'm stupid. Is that the nose they'll be using? Where's the penis? Anyone care to draw on that picture Wollan-style for me?
Practice 1 is about to start, by the way. If the smog doesn't choke the TV crew and the paddock first.
Edit - Maldonado already spun by missing a turn while looking at the steering wheel. I'm not making this up.
Elvin Atombender
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He looks completely unfocused. He has gone off twice while looking at his steering wheel and now the crash going into the pits.
ConstructMe
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any way to watch practise in aus?
Times are 3,4 second slower than last year's FP2
We won't see true order until Qualifying tomorrow. Maybe in FP3, if Mercedes powered teams decide to up their game. But there is still looming chance of rainfall.
Mercedes at 315 km/h in 7th at 11k RPMs... I do not know if they ran in conservative mode/fuel heavy on FP2, because their long run pace was not so dominant.
List of PU parts changes across the grid
We won't see true order until Qualifying tomorrow. Maybe in FP3, if Mercedes powered teams decide to up their game. But there is still looming chance of rainfall.
Mercedes at 315 km/h in 7th at 11k RPMs... I do not know if they ran in conservative mode/fuel heavy on FP2, because their long run pace was not so dominant.
List of PU parts changes across the grid
Slackbladder
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He's probably trying to work out what it's for.
Mastah
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It's funny to see how wrong Rosberg was in predicting unrealistic top speeds in China:
Reality:
1 44 Lewis Hamilton 14:46:30 331.1
2 6 Nico Rosberg 14:32:33 331.0
They should beable to break 340 kph barrier during the race with the slipstream and DRS, but that's about it.
Reality:
1 44 Lewis Hamilton 14:46:30 331.1
2 6 Nico Rosberg 14:32:33 331.0
They should beable to break 340 kph barrier during the race with the slipstream and DRS, but that's about it.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Has the Friday press conference taken place?What did Honda say?
I don't get it, how does their nose look normal, whereas every other team has a anteater nose ? Can someone explain please ?
Nicktendo86
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Well, the McLaren is still a dog. Where there hell is this famous in season development? I said before the season I thought it was a bit of a myth, and oI know it is still early, but others are bringing major updates at a much faster pace. Shocking that a team of McLaren's size is in this state.
theignoramus
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Nico Rosberg isnt holding off Lewis Hamilton for 10 laps on tyres a half second slower, with no DRS. His peaks dont reach the level of other elite drivers, though he's fast and consistent.
That's essentially what I was getting at too, in case anyone was wondering. Can anyone explain for a couple of dunces like us?
pants
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I see Rosberg as more of a Prost than a Senna. Let's talk again come the end of the season.
LicenceToK1ll
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PdotMichael
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I'm not sure why people using Senna and Prost for Hamilton and Rosberg.
Rosberg was slower in all three weekends. There is nothing "smart" or stunning in any way if you only lead the WDC because of a DNF of your team mate.
Rosberg was slower in all three weekends. There is nothing "smart" or stunning in any way if you only lead the WDC because of a DNF of your team mate.
He was faster in Bahrain.
PdotMichael
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Not really. The safety car provided him with a big adventage for the last laps.
The gap between him and Hamilton before the safety car was quite big.
Not when it mattered.
Not enough to keep him in front.
Fox Mulder
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I'm new to F1, what's his story?
does he have a ton of money or sponsorships regardless of being a shitty driver or something? I've been watching season highlights and he at least won a race.
pants
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Exactly this.
To be fair to him he has some decent speed though, but it's been evident for a long time he'll never get himself under control.
Oh god lost it at 'Inoue Taki'
Well, his PR department is posting there, but that was his comment after FP2 todayLicenceToK1ll said:
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