The Formula 1 2015 Pre-Season |OT| The Power of Dreams™

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brotkasten said:
I really don't care about their relationship, but I'm wondering. Does the music world or rather Scherzinger fans care as much about Lewis as the F1 fans care about Nicole?
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I don't think anyone other than the tabloids care. It made me sick when the Sun spent more time talking about Nicole rather than Hamilton after Abu Dhabi.
 
BBC World News is going to show a feature with DC and Mercedes on how they prepare for the 2015 season called "F1: Behind the wheel" on the 14th.
 
BOOOOOO!!!

Are they afraid of Manor/Marussia running ahead of 'em just because of last year's nose regulations? Or are they afraid of it being so slow that it would get in their way more than once in a race? These are the only reasons I could think of...
 
Icecold dig at McLaren OP :P

Still see Mercedes as the team to beat this season, it would be nice if Ferrari continue their season in the same form as their testing.
DD said:
BOOOOOO!!!

Are they afraid of Manor/Marussia running ahead of 'em just because of last year's nose regulations? Or are they afraid of it being so slow that it would get in their way more than once in a race? These are the only reasons I could think of...
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Probably the latter.

Interesting tidbit:

2014 fastest overall time - 1m 23.276s (Kevin Magnussen)

2015 fastest overall time - 1m20.841s (Kimi Raikkonen)

That's 2.9 percent faster

Total distance run - by team (power unit, where different):
1. Mercedes, 516 laps - 2,284km
2. Sauber (Ferrari), 382 laps - 1,691km
3. Toro Rosso (Renault), 353 laps - 1,563km
4. Ferrari, 349 laps - 1,545km
5. Williams (Mercedes), 278 laps - 1,230km
6. Lotus (Mercedes), 190 laps - 841km
7. Red Bull (Renault), 166 laps - 735km
8. McLaren (Honda), 79 laps - 349km
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Is that just info from the first test or form all of the tests last year?
IE. Are they just faster than where they were at the start of testing, or at the end of testing.
 
Souldestroyer Reborn said:
Icecold dig at McLaren OP :P

Still see Mercedes as the team to beat this season, it would be nice if Ferrari continue their season in the same form as their testing.


Probably the latter.

Interesting tidbit:
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The speed is probably down to them being a lot more confident with the engines compared to last year when they were really untested, where this year they are just evolutions.

If you picked up the slowest times as well you'd of pointed out that RBR was a lot slower last year than McLaren has been this test.
 
DBT85 said:
Is that just info from the first test or form all of the tests last year?
IE. Are they just faster than where they were at the start of testing, or at the end of testing.
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For the Jerez testing only of both 2014 and 2015 respectively.

All info taken directly from the F1 App. So probably on the F1.com website too :)
 
DBT85 said:
Is that just info from the first test or form all of the tests last year?
IE. Are they just faster than where they were at the start of testing, or at the end of testing.
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First test with completely new engines, were most teams were happy if they drove at all.

Add to that a strategic F1 engine meeting (what to do in the future) is this Friday and I seriously doubt any manufacture was seriously pushing during the Jerez test. Barcelona might give a better indication, also better comparison with last years speed.
 
Jibbed said:
I must have been mistaken then, there was definitely a day that happened as Ted Kravitz and Autosport quote that figure.

Where did you get that data?
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https://twitter.com/MST_ChristianN

markao said:
First test with completely new engines, were most teams were happy if they drove at all.

Add to that a strategic F1 engine meeting (what to do in the future) is this Friday and I seriously doubt any manufacture was seriously pushing during the Jerez test. Barcelona might give a better indication, also better comparison with last years speed.
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I don't think so. It's a shame there wasn't Barca test last year or there won't be testing in Bahrain now, because comparison with times from Spanish GP will be inaccurate. During race weekend they only had mediums and hard tyres, while in testing all tyres will be available and that's 2 or more seconds coming strictly from softer compounds.
 
DD said:
BOOOOOO!!!

Are they afraid of Manor/Marussia running ahead of 'em just because of last year's nose regulations? Or are they afraid of it being so slow that it would get in their way more than once in a race? These are the only reasons I could think of...
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Is the 107% rule still in effect? Although I don't recall it being used even with cars >107%. :/
 
Looking forward to seeing the German "racing god" in press conferences seated lowed on the podium than his teammate.

Kinda feel bad for Alonso.
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The F1 now has podiums for drivers finishing between 5th and 7th? Great news!
 
What would be the point in them turning up with at 2014 car? They'd get utterly fucking annihilated. They wouldn't even be in the same ballpark.

I sort of see the romance of their phoenix act... but really, what would it get them?
 
Stolen from autosport forums:

I took the opportunity to ask Jon Noble and the other Autosport guys about the McLaren Honda, and their running at Jerez. (We were standing in line at Seville Airport today.) The story seems to be that the issues in Jerez are genuinely minor ones. Things like wiring of the electronics, and some install issues. Very frustrating I am sure for McLaren, but sort these niggles, and they will have a very good power unit.

McLaren aero, my photos make me think there is more room for tightening, especially around the exhaust pipe. Compared to Red Bull - I'd say the McLaren is next best at the rear, but clearly they need to get the reliability sorted first.
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DD said:
BOOOOOO!!!

Are they afraid of Manor/Marussia running ahead of 'em just because of last year's nose regulations? Or are they afraid of it being so slow that it would get in their way more than once in a race? These are the only reasons I could think of...
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Money.

Slower car.

Probably not a serious investor behind the revival, so why lose money?
 
Nicktendo86 said:
Stolen from autosport forums:
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Is there anything that makes us think the McLaren aero is all that much better than last year? I mean, they had the same PU as Merc but couldn't hold a candle to them... could the Honda make up for any shortfalls they may have?
 
Shaneus said:
Is there anything that makes us think the McLaren aero is all that much better than last year? I mean, they had the same PU as Merc but couldn't hold a candle to them... could the Honda make up for any shortfalls they may have?
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Yes, first they have one of the key people behind red bull's winning aero now, they have restructured their entire organisation and ditched the previous policy of going for headline down force levels that are impossible to replicate on track and they are a works team now which makes a massive difference (they didn't know the final layout of the Merc engine until it was too late last year so got packaging wrong plus Mobil 1 were not able to produce the best fuel).

It is pretty much accepted they will have a much better chassis this year.
 
Let's ignore the money issue for a moment and consider how much slower Marussia were than Red Bull last year. Given the apparent jump in pace from last year, it would be stupid to let Marussia 'race' using last years car for the sake of the spectacle/sport.

As much as I want to see Marussia/Manor succeed they would add nothing. Literally nothing, to the value of the sport.

EDIT: To sound less...blunt, they'd be better off taking a year out to secure solid investment, sponsorship, clearing debts, and building a car for 2016 rather than rag-tagging along in 2015 and making minimal progress for 2016.
 
Let them try to qualify at Melbourne, at the very least.

When they inevitably can't lap within 107%, they'll pack up and go home. Simple.
 
The situation is infuriating. There is enough money in F1 to go around but the distribution is fucked up. Marussia trundle around at the back, so fucking what? They are a race team trying their best who actually scored points last season and they will see NONE of the reward for that. The small teams are vital for F1, they introduce new drivers, in this age of lack of overtaking they add small battles to the back of the grid, they employ thousands of people.

The people running this sport are morons and the teams who vetoed the move are self serving idiots.
 
Nicktendo86 said:
The situation is infuriating. There is enough money in F1 to go around but the distribution is fucked up. Marussia trundle around at the back, so fucking what? They are a race team trying their best who actually scored points last season and they will see NONE of the reward for that. The small teams are vital for F1, they introduce new drivers, in this age of lack of overtaking they add small battles to the back of the grid, they employ thousands of people.

The people running this sport are morons and the teams who vetoed the move are self serving idiots.
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I want the small teams to succeed as much as the next person, but F1 is a single class elite sport. Having a team running around lapping outside of the 107% would be ridiculous.
 
Ark said:
I want the small teams to succeed as much as the next person, but F1 is a single class elite sport. Having a team running around lapping outside of the 107% would be ridiculous.
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If they didn't have money issues they wouldn't suck so much. Actually I don't care about having smaller teams, I never did but this is different. It's hypocritical of F1 and the big ugys at the front to expect from a team like Marussia to make a decent car when they get such a low share. Screw them.
 
Sky F1 interview with Bernie about the whole situation.

Marussia's hopes of competing in the 2015 F1 season appear to have been dashed by rival teams.

The team, who were due to race under the Manor Grand Prix name, had hoped to compete this season using their 2014 car but that request has been voted down by opposing teams.

They wanted to use their old model to give them time to build a credible challenger for the 2016 campaign, but that request had to be passed by the Formula One Strategy Group, and failed to do so on Thursday.

Former J Sainsbury chief executive Justin King was looking to complete a takeover of the team but that was reportedly dependent on the team receiving their fee of more than £25m for finishing in the top 10 of the constructors' championship in back-to-back seasons.

However that money would only be paid if they competed this season and will now be split, according to reports, between Lotus, Force India and Sauber.

"They wanted to come in with last year's car and it didn't get accepted," F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone told the Independent.. "It needed all the teams to agree and there were three or four of them that didn't agree.

"The money that they should have got gets distributed amongst the teams that are racing. That's a pretty good reason I suppose.

"Maybe the other teams would have liked to use last year’s car. The trouble was that you can’t do these things for one team, you have got to do it for everybody."

Marussia fell into administration towards the end of last season with Russian owner Andrey Cheglakov no longer prepared to dip into his fortune to keep the team running around at the back of the grid.

It resulted in Marussia missing the final three races in the United States, Brazil and Abu Dhabi.

Sporting director Graeme Lowdon and team principal John Booth, the initial founders, have refused to let the team die and have been in negotiations with various parties over the past few months in a bid to keep the team on the grid this season.
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Zeknurn said:
I'll laugh when Force India, Sauber or Lotus are in the same position and the teams above them decide to do the same to them.
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Either one of those teams could end up folding during the 2015 season, so I can't really blame them at all. The problem is with the distribution of prize money, and that's not their fault.
 
I actually hope Marussia can throw together a 2015 car. Whilst I don't agree with them being able to run a 2014 car, I hadn't realised that they wouldn't get the prize money from last year if they didn't start this year.
 
German GP is actually a shadow of its past glory (especially on the ubershort Hockhenheimring), but it still sucks that there's one normal European race less in the calendar.
 
xrnzaaas said:
German GP is actually a shadow of its past glory (especially on the ubershort Hockhenheimring), but it still sucks that there's one normal European race less in the calendar.
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I miss the old Hockenheim Ring from the 90ties.
 
Zandvoort should be back, damnit.

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DD said:
I don't think it is suited to F1's safety standards anymore. Great circuit nonetheless.

EDIT: maybe Assen, but I'm not sure about the boxes there...
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Neither of these track reside near an oil rig or are designed by Hermann Tilke, I'm pretty sure safety regulations or pit boxes are the issue when trying to get a GP back to The Netherlands :D
 
Lewis Hamilton ‏@LewisHamilton 5m5 minutes ago

Hi everyone. I want to thank you all for the love & support during this tough time. It means the world to me. #TeamLH #bestfansintheworld
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Ooooh :(
 
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