The Formula 1 2015 Pre-Season |OT| The Power of Dreams™

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McLaren-Honda needs top probably dial back that talk, but I assume they're trying to attract a title sponsor. I'm not sure they can realistically expect much this year. The chassis was garbage last year as they were one of the worst Merc runners last year. It's a stretch to think they'll not only reverse fields on the chassis but also nail the engine on the first go. PEACE.
 
Pimpwerx said:
McLaren-Honda needs top probably dial back that talk, but I assume they're trying to attract a title sponsor. I'm not sure they can realistically expect much this year. The chassis was garbage last year as they were one of the worst Merc runners last year. It's a stretch to think they'll not only reverse fields on the chassis but also nail the engine on the first go. PEACE.
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I'm looking forward to the inevitable McLaren struggle with the promise of improvements being made to the car in future races, which inevitably leads to no substantial difference.
 
I'll be honest, that Ferrari concept is sex. I would take that.


As for the new rules not coming in until 2017, I'm ok with that too. Just putting wider tyres and wider cars with lower wings isn't suddenly going to make everything better. Better to actually think properly or a year and then get them in for 2017.
 
Mastah said:
Disband F1 Commision. Disband Strategy Group. Kick out Bernie. Kick out Todt. Bring back Maxxx. Do something before these bloated egos will kill F1 once and for all..
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As far as I'm concerned, it's all but dead in Australa (despite there being an Australian frontrunner driver in the series). Surprising what the knowledge of limited access to live races can do to one's enthusiasm.

(yes, I'm still bitter)
 
Shaneus said:
As far as I'm concerned, it's all but dead in Australa (despite there being an Australian frontrunner driver in the series). Surprising what the knowledge of limited access to live races can do to one's enthusiasm.

(yes, I'm still bitter)
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I can very rarely watch a GP live and there are no American drivers so it could be worse. :)
 
Force India is late with engine payment, so Mercedes will have their DTM driver Wehrlein in Force India car for two days
 
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As a respsonse, the drivers of Formula 1 have anounced they would all use the same helmet design at the season debut in australia, an all black helmet, with the words "Formula 1 is a sham" in big white letters.

I wish....

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F1 chiefs have grown concerned that fans are turned off by drivers constantly changing their helmet colours.
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Yes I'm sure that's what's turning fans off....
 
I do wish drivers would stick to a more consistent color scheme. I mean, its not my place to say what they should do necessarily, but I've always felt that a helmet often becomes part of the unique identity of these drivers, especially since its basically all we see of them when they're out on track. But only when there's some continuity. Which this rule doesn't really help because they are still free to change design season to season.
 
I pretty much couldn't tell you what any of their helmets look like (and I actually go to the races). I only know that Hamilton's is yellow.

In the race you're far better off looking at the camera colour than the helmet as it's immediately obvious.
 
Psychotext said:
I pretty much couldn't tell you what any of their helmets look like (and I actually go to the races). I only know that Hamilton's is yellow.

In the race you're far better off looking at the camera colour than the helmet as it's immediately obvious.
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Hamiltons is white as of last year.

Personally, I find it much more easy to look at the helmets rather then camera colour
 
Psychotext said:
I pretty much couldn't tell you what any of their helmets look like (and I actually go to the races). I only know that Hamilton's is yellow.

In the race you're far better off looking at the camera colour than the helmet as it's immediately obvious.
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Well its getting to that point, because drivers keep switching helmet designs, but otherwise, I find tracking drivers by the helmet a lot easier in an ideal world. I feel my eyes are more drawn to the driver rather than the top of the car. I'm 'learning' to look at the T-bar more now, but only out of necessity.

Still, I think its a bit much to tell the drivers what they can and cant do with their helmets. I just prefer it when there's continuity. You may be an exception, but I think a lot of longer time F1 fans will know many iconic helmet designs instantly since drivers did used to generally keep a running design.
 
Seanspeed said:
I do wish drivers would stick to a more consistent color scheme. I mean, its not my place to say what they should do necessarily, but I've always felt that a helmet often becomes part of the unique identity of these drivers, especially since its basically all we see of them when they're out on track. But only when there's some continuity. Which this rule doesn't really help because they are still free to change design season to season.
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But the only person that went ape shit with the helmet changes was Vettel. Hamilton had the same variation of his helmet since 07 i think, though a few things were altered here or there. Only really changed it last year minus the occasional one off. This really applies for a lot of the drivers minus Vettel. I have no clue what Rosberg has done helmet wise though I do believe last year was probably his first major change as well. In regards to the rule it's pretty stupid. They have teams dropping out of the sport and other manufacturers refusing to come in either because of Bernies involvement or they can't justify the expense and they opt to ban helmet changes. It's stupid and not tackling the matter at hand.
 
Good. I hope they take it another step and make them register their design upon entering the sport. I like the traditional Monaco helmet free for all though, so once a year they can do as they please.
 
Typical. Instead of saying to all drivers "listen, wankers, no more stupid helmet changes every single race, you are allowed to do one-offs from time to time, but I dare you to do a Vettel" we will have rules and regulations about helmet colours. That's fucking insane.
 
I'd love them to try this in MotoGP! Ha ha ha ha, i love new lid designs, they help keep things interesting and give some personality to the sport.

I suppose if the fans are that set against it then disallowing changes is the only way to save F1. I wonder how many letters of complaint they had from fans that prompted this action? ;)
 
nature boy said:
Wow everything must be fine in F1, if banning helmet changes is seen as such a priority...
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I think this is great.

I have great problems identifying the drivers with a new helmet every race.

It frustrated me way too much.

A step in the right direction is a step in the right direction...
 
itsgreen said:
I have great problems identifying the drivers with a new helmet every race.
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Really?, how many drivers change the helmet every race?. I think only one and he already said that he will not do it this year.

So now if a driver want to change his helmet for a special occasion like breaking a record, or paying tribute to an injured driver/friend, they can't do it.
 
so it shouldnt be an issue? If only one driver does it (Vettel) then you can find every driver. The one with the helmet you dont know is Vettel. Its that simple *rolleyes*
 
And we also live in an era of constant on-screen graphics and identifiers. It's now really, really hard to not know who you're looking at on screen.

They don't have a clue.
 
Juicy Bob said:
And we also live in an era of constant on-screen graphics and identifiers. It's now really, really hard to not know who you're looking at on screen.

They don't have a clue.
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To be fair, both the on-screen graphics as well as the commentators identify the drivers wrongly from time to time....
But I don't think the current situation is so bad that it needs to be fixed....
 
Juicy Bob said:
And we also live in an era of constant on-screen graphics and identifiers. It's now really, really hard to not know who you're looking at on screen.

They don't have a clue.
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When there's one car on screen. At nearly all other times, the graphics are really of no use for identifying drivers. It's a problem, even with enthusiasts (as this thread has proven as this topic keeps coming up from time to time).

Personally I'm in favour with keeping helmet designs stable, but it's only a small part of a bigger problem (and of course it also doesn't help that nearly all helmet designs have been awful for a long time, in part due to the amount of sponsors they carry). They tried to make a big fuss over driver numbers, but they're still completely redundant as they're barely visible on the car, there's no standardised location for them, and due to every team styling them differently, even when you do spot them they're not easy to recognise.

The coloured t-cam has really been the only consistent way of differentiating between team mates for the last decade or so, but even then, it's a small area on the car, and you have to remember which driver in each team has the coloured cam.
 
Seanspeed said:
I do wish drivers would stick to a more consistent color scheme. I mean, its not my place to say what they should do necessarily, but I've always felt that a helmet often becomes part of the unique identity of these drivers, especially since its basically all we see of them when they're out on track. But only when there's some continuity. Which this rule doesn't really help because they are still free to change design season to season.
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I agree with this. I prefer helmets to be iconic and special edition helmets were getting out of hand.
 
Banning helmet changes is so dumb. It shouldn't be so hard to remember drivers now that two teams have folded.

I liked the changes drivers did for Monaco or night races. Makes them feel a but more special.

I dont get why F1 cars look identical anyways, why not invert colors or something.
 
Adam Scott Aukerman said:
Put yourself in the shoes of someone that doesn't watch F1 religiously.
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I just started watching f1 last year. It's easy enough to follow on tv, but I haven't gone to a live race since I live in the US.

I've gone to many NASCAR races and it's not hard at all to identify cars since teams aren't driving identical liveries.
 
I'm fine with the helmet change, not bothered either way tbh.

However they could do with adding more visibility to the different cars from each team rather than just the cameras. Make the end plates of the FW and the outside 3 inches orsmge/yellow or something.
 
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