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The Formula 1 2015 Season |OT| Formula E Feeder Series
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brotkasten
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It seems weird that only Ferrari is happy with their super long nose.
fucking hell Mercedes is on such a high on every aspect of their business it's crazy. Motorsport (Formula 1), cars (S Class coupe, C Class coupe HNNNNNGGGG), trucks (driverless stuff). they're getting everything right. but I guess that's the aspiration you should have as the inventor of the automobile.
JadedWriter
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Holy fuck at Honda and Redbull. Honda practically goes through an engine per race.
Mastah
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Kimi and his bad luck:
Yeah, for no apparent reason...
It's such a shame he was retained by Ferrari. Spinning two years in a row in Canada - "technical problem" eventhough both Alonso and Vettel managed "mad throttle" (as Arrivabene described it) just fine. Losing the car like a tool in Austra - "Alonso surely touched him and caused it, there's no way world class driver (lol) like Kimi would manage to bin it on his own" - no technical fault was found. Being overtaken at the start at Spa by both Manors and McLarens - no one cared when he was at the back, I guess. Pulling off the start at Monza even Webber would be envy of - "no way Kimi made a mistake, there has to be a problem, poor him, such bad luck" - as it turns out he caused it by himself.
It's a joke he's basically Ferrari mascot right now, bringing money with his popularity.
Yeah, for no apparent reason...
It's such a shame he was retained by Ferrari. Spinning two years in a row in Canada - "technical problem" eventhough both Alonso and Vettel managed "mad throttle" (as Arrivabene described it) just fine. Losing the car like a tool in Austra - "Alonso surely touched him and caused it, there's no way world class driver (lol) like Kimi would manage to bin it on his own" - no technical fault was found. Being overtaken at the start at Spa by both Manors and McLarens - no one cared when he was at the back, I guess. Pulling off the start at Monza even Webber would be envy of - "no way Kimi made a mistake, there has to be a problem, poor him, such bad luck" - as it turns out he caused it by himself.
It's a joke he's basically Ferrari mascot right now, bringing money with his popularity.
Frijns completes Andretti Formula E line-up for season two
Nice! But I wish he had landed on a better team tho.
Nice! But I wish he had landed on a better team tho.
It's okay, he's just keeping the seat warm for Bottas or Verstappen, it really doesn't matter.
Yeah, Andretti are using last year's engine
Yep!
At least we're getting another season of ITV showing every race live. They did a pretty good job with the first season.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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That's good news, they did a surprisingly decent job of their coverage (with the exception of the London races in which they fell down the same hole the BBC have been sliding down for the last year or so in only talking in increasingly strained superlatives).
Great Britain's Jenson Button says he will quit Formula 1 altogether if he does not stay at McLaren-Honda in 2016.
Seems like the correct decision to me. At the same time he's not going to win WDC next year, and no team in a place to do so would hire him. Maybe it's time to move to sports cars or rallying?
Seems like the correct decision to me. At the same time he's not going to win WDC next year, and no team in a place to do so would hire him. Maybe it's time to move to sports cars or rallying?
Wax Free Vanilla
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Honda F1 Movie https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=MRDluXzgT7w
It sounds good.
Button said work started on next season's car in the UK and Japan in April, so can Honda run their wind tunnels 24/7 with a McLaren?
It sounds good.
Button said work started on next season's car in the UK and Japan in April, so can Honda run their wind tunnels 24/7 with a McLaren?
Nope...
JadedWriter
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That's right McHonda, act like nobody has been watching this season. If this isn't in that movie than the movie is BS fanfiction:
Psychotext
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glol. Some of the quotes in there...
...they should have included some of the driver quotes about the car too.
JadedWriter
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"I don't want...I don't want. " Fernando Alonso
TJ13: Could Renault be about to buy Red Bull Racing?
Renault buying RBR would solve a lot of problems for everyone. Total and Infiniti sponsorships retained, Renault gets a team with special privileges and Mateschitz gets out, Everyone wins?
Renault buying RBR would solve a lot of problems for everyone. Total and Infiniti sponsorships retained, Renault gets a team with special privileges and Mateschitz gets out, Everyone wins?
Except Lotus
what is more likely 5 years into the future? In regards to still being in Formula 1
as
Red Bull Renault
or Red Bull Racing with another engine Manufacturer?
Red Bull as a Renault Factory team has to many unknowns. Renault could decide to get out of Formula 1 again. That would probably be the end of a High-Spending Red Bull Team. If they didnt fight for championships in the 5 years as a factory team, they would be left dry and would probably be a midfield team after Renault pulls out.
Would the Junior Program survive? Even in the first or second year after Renault buys RBR? The Junior Program wasnt the Baby of the Red bull Racing Team, its Dr. Markos Baby. I think it would be the first on the chopping block. And even if it isnt part of the buyout because its Dr. markos Baby, they could just ignore the Juniors. And the Red bull Junior Program would be less prestigious for the young drivers because the door to Formula 1 is closed.
What happens to STR?
So what about the chances of RBR still being in Formula 1 after 5 years with a Ferrari mercedes or honda Engine?
Either they fight for Top3 or they scale heavily back with the budget. I see them bowing out of Formula 1 when they are constantly only Number 4 or 5 in the manufacturer Ranking.
But still, Renault not caring enough for more than 5 years and bowing out is more likely than RBR by themself.
Fox Mulder
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i'd hate that.
redbull gets hate, but they spend money and are a good exciting owner for the sport along with their driver program. Renault's shit engines got worse this year and who knows how long they stick with owning a team again, leaving Lotus or Redbull fucked.
Yeah, because F1 definitely needs fewer manufacturers & engine suppliers. Good call.
Renault buying Lotus is way more exciting to me than Red Bull, honestly. I think it's because I think RBR would be competitive just by having a decent engine. They don't really need to be a works team. A Renault Lotus is a really interesting curveball I'd like to see thrown into the mix.
Except the performance issues, yes? What are the chances their 2016 engine will be markedly better than this year's (in both reliability *and* performance)?
Reanult basically competing with Honda on the number of engine changes.
Oh right, the European season is over which means we're back to odd times for all the sessions.
FP1 is coming up in two hours.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and make the prediction that no team will be able to compete with Mercedes next year so it doesn't matter if Red Bull has Renault or Ferrari power units. 2016 is a write off.
They will be looking at 2017 and hoping that the current sets of rules and regulations will be thrown out, allowing for a more competitive field.
FP1 is coming up in two hours.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and make the prediction that no team will be able to compete with Mercedes next year so it doesn't matter if Red Bull has Renault or Ferrari power units. 2016 is a write off.
They will be looking at 2017 and hoping that the current sets of rules and regulations will be thrown out, allowing for a more competitive field.
If Red Bull are ready to sell up after a difficult year or two then good riddance to the wankers.
I won't miss their incessant moaning, their feeling of entitlement or their complete lack of humility or class. They can flaunt their wad at another sport and preferably also fuck off out of football.
Maybe some hilarious idea like extreme chess or naturalist paragliding would be a better fit.
I won't miss their incessant moaning, their feeling of entitlement or their complete lack of humility or class. They can flaunt their wad at another sport and preferably also fuck off out of football.
Maybe some hilarious idea like extreme chess or naturalist paragliding would be a better fit.
Mohonky
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They may not have a choice, they've backed themselves into a position where Renault are sick of them constantly talking shit about them so they no longer want to be an engine provider.
Redbulls plan was to get rid of Renault and get a Merc or Ferrari unit and I would say they were hedging their bet that the FIA would force either of them to supply engines whether they wanted to or not. Merc already told them to take a hike and now they have to rely on Ferrari. If Ferrari says no, only Honda is left, a proposition even worse than Renault, so they definitely don't want to go there and they'd be better to stick with Renault, but after all the shit talk, Renault have been so soured over the whole ordeal they don't want anything to do with them either.
Personally, I wouldn't supply Redbull either. They never said jackshit about Renault when they were winning, never heard a peep about them despite the fact Renault powered them to 4 WDC and WCC. Then the second they aren't winning we've been hearing about nothing but Renault. To be fair, the Renault engine hasn't been terrible reliable or as powerful as the Merc or Ferrari units but Renault have always had to work around a really compact Newey chasis so they've had to make a square peg fit a round hole so you can't really scream at them 'make us an engine as powerful or more than the opposition and it must be bulletproof, oh and it must fit within these specifications.'
So yeh Renault have had enough, they've decided ugh fuck these guys, we'd rather run our own team than do this shit again and if you were Merc or Ferrari why would you supply Redbull? Redbull have already demonstrated they won't credit you when they do win and when they aren't winning they'll throw you under the bus.
Can you imagine if Merc or Ferrari did power Redbull and they didn't win? How many weeks before Redbull start getting the lawyers out and accusing them of supplying B-Spec engines? It's not worth the drama.
Redbull have cornered themselves now. Renault want nothing to do with them. They need Merc or Ferrari to stop up and Merc so far are laughing at them and the alternative is Honda and you can imagine how well they would go down after Redbull.
Their tantrum throwing is going to cost them. Every manufacturer goes through down periods. Ask Ferrari. Ask Mclaren. Ask Williams. All have dominated and then fallen and had to work their way up again. But that's not good enough for Redbull.
Fox Mulder
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Redbull still is regarded as having a great car, it's the shit engine down on power and blowing up every 5 minutes killing them. Renault even regressed this year. It's not absurd for redbull to be demanding and publicly shitting on Renault's awful work. They're stuck in a bad situation with little control.
Bernie needs to force a manufacturer to supply redbull, as losing two teams isn't going to help anyone, and I doubt Renault will improve much under current rules owning just Lotus or Redbull and having no customer teams.
Mohonky
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But they built the car around what they wanted the car to be, not the whole package. Thats the problem. If they get a new engine from anyone else, the cars going to need to be redesigned as well, and there is no gaurantee they can make another engine work and keep the same level of chasis performance.
brotkasten
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Speaking of Red Bull
"Niki Luda and Helmut Marco having a bite together. Interesting..."
"Kvyat's sessions looks to over with a fuel system issue"
"Niki Luda and Helmut Marco having a bite together. Interesting..."
"Kvyat's sessions looks to over with a fuel system issue"
brotkasten
Member
The boy must've been nervous.
Vettel almost hit the wall as well, but we always does that during FP.
Vettel almost hit the wall as well, but we always does that during FP.
Even I despise the current Red bull, but this is wrong. They thanked renault several times for wins. They even had Renault Mechanics on the Podium.
I refuse to get my hopes up
Mercs are just playing around.GERMAN JESUS WILL SAVE US
Edit: Ericsson always looks like he's on some dank shit ahahha.
RSI.
KFC?