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The Formula 1 2015 Season |OT| Formula E Feeder Series

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Big Takeover

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At least it was back-to-back with Hungry, but still, it's a hype killer when GPs get cancelled so close the the summer break. After Britain, one lone race takes place over the course of the next seven weeks.

That's brutal.
 
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Psychotext

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So this looks like a good idea...

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Eau Rouge / Raidillon. I hope they plan on building that tyre wall about three times higher.
 
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Hammer24

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Dilly said:
It's at the top of the hill, so it's quite a big problem in fact.
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Maybe my old mind is playing tricks on me, and I misjudge the place due to odd camera placement - but I thought everyone but the RBR stayed well away from these kerbs anyway, as you lose way too much speed going towards Kemmel?
 
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Psychotext

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Its not really about what goes right though, it's about what goes wrong. I've seen so many instances of crashes turning really nasty because of sausage kerb launches.
 
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Hammer24

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Psychotext said:
Its not really about what goes right though, it's about what goes wrong. I've seen so many instances of crashes turning really nasty because of sausage kerb launches.
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This is true - but within and right after Eau Rouge the margin of error is basically zero anyways, no?
 
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Psychotext

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Not zero, there's a car width at least... but I still don't see why you'd make safety worse just to stop people potentially gaining a tenth or two. Like you said, hardly anyone uses that area anyway, so why risk making a crash into a (multiple) fatality.
 
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Psychotext

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itsgreen said:
No fans on the outside of that corner...

But yes, this is a terrible thing, because this will probably lead to crashes...
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Gold 3 and Gold 4?

Edit - Well, Gold 3. Gold 4 is further down. Either way, it's obviously fairly close to the crowd or there wouldn't be photos like this:

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itsgreen

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The rumble strips are on the inside of raidillon, the corner going left, so they are effectively already past Gold 3.

Gold 4 is on the outside of Eau Rouge, Gold 3 on top, Gold 5 is on the inside of Eau Rouge...

I have been on Gold 3 a few times :) Was there last year :)
 
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Big Takeover

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There's no way any of the major championships will agree to run with the circuit like that. I get that they want to stop things like those Clios from constantly bailing out when running side-by-side, but making the circuit more dangerous is quite obviously ridiculous. I can almost guarantee they'll get removed.
 
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Souldestroyer Reborn

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Shaneus said:
Yeah. I think if anyone's going to come from the blue to supply engines, it'll be Audi.
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Ain't gonna happen as long as Bernie is there.

Audi/VW is a no go unless Bernie goes as Audi is part of the VAG group who have explicitly said that for as long as Bernie is involved with F1 they won't be anywhere near it.

Porsche are invested in other motor sports, would be cool to see them but I don't believe they would join as a works team. (I'd have liked a Lotus works team but whatever) would be interesting but they'd be more of a partner team if it were to happen imho.

As for BMW? Well, in the consumer market they are rivals with Mercedes and Audi. They make rear wheel drive cars. I could see it happening. They may look at the situation that if Bernie was to leave and VAG got involved, they'd be out in the cold so to speak. They may want to get involved before VAG (If it were to happen) to get a head start. Plus they've been in F1 before, where they were relatively successful so it's a possibility. The only sticky point would be building cars relevant to road cars, they didn't like the regulations (or Bernie) so yeah...

I actually see Nissan as a higher possibility in regards to potentially supplying RBR with engines die to their Infiniti connections who are the "luxury wing" of Nissan.

The only manufacturers I can see that would be interested are:

- Toyota
- Ford (Once the Haas team is established)
- Nissan

Manufacturers who would be interested once Bernie is gone?:

- BMW
- VW
- Audi
- Toyota
- Ford (Once the Haas team is established)
- Nissan

Basically all of them :p
 
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Ark

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DrM said:
Looks like Rosberg will really invite Seb over to debrief :D :D
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It would be really cool of Mercedes to let him in, just for the sake of hilarious PR and in the interest of competition.

Yes I know this will never happen.
 
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DBT85

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Hammer24 said:
This. As long as both are on the same strategy (read: start on the same tyre), whoever leads on track pits first. They clarified this to the drivers, after last year the drivers tried to circumvent it. Merc will do absolutely everything to prevent the team getting split. Every shred of data, absolutely everything is team property and shared.
On the ROS-HAM relationship - the friendship is dead. They agreed to have a very professional relationship, but Ham wont come into ROS apartment anymore to plunder the fridge (ROS words).
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That makes perfect sense if they are just in formation for the race.

Seems like it could still get messy if one of them is getting royally shafted sitting behind a slightly slower car or something for 10 laps when the guy out front is just cruising and not pushing his tyres. Guy in front doesn't want to pit for another 5 laps so the guy in the Trulli train gets boned.
 
EarsOfASnake

EarsOfASnake

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Pimpwerx said:
Some will complain, but Wolff hasn't done anything to warrant a nod for a race seat, so no reason to give her a replacement role. I mean, does anyone know if she's even fast?

When Shuey broke his leg, I believe Luca Badoer was the test driver, but they used Mika Salo to fill the race seat. The reason bring Luca was slow as dog shit, and the few times he managed to get in a race, this was abundantly obvious. I've no doubt it's a similar case with Wolff. It's not necessarily PR, it's just that some drivers are good at testing, but lack racecraft.

I just looked, and Suzie Wolff never won a single race outside of juniors. Yeah, I'd say she's not cut out to drive on Sunday. PEACE.
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But you're never bringing in a replacement driver with the intention of blowing the competition away are you, it's a 'we have to make do' situation. This weekend would have been an almost perfect way to give Wolff a run. Season opener with teams barely functioning, a great PR opportunity and at the very least it's more miles and data for the team. Hell, it would have at least made the race interesting to watch compared to what we got.
 
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Massa

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MikeDub said:
But you're never bringing in a replacement driver with the intention of blowing the competition away are you, it's a 'we have to make do' situation. This weekend would have been an almost perfect way to give Wolff a run. Season opener with teams barely functioning, a great PR opportunity and at the very least it's more miles and data for the team. Hell, it would have at least made the race interesting to watch compared to what we got.
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She couldn't run this weekend because she didn't take part in qualifying, Bottas hadn't been injured yet. For the next race if Bottas is still out then Williams will find the best driver they can to maximize their points, plain and simple.
 
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Ryne

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Figured VDG will settle for money, I didn't think winning a seat in the fashion he was going about it would be very popular with the other members of the team. Sounds like it would be a complete hostile environment.
 
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Shaneus

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Ryne said:
Figured VDG will settle for money, I didn't think winning a seat in the fashion he was going about it would be very popular with the other members of the team. Sounds like it would be a complete hostile environment.
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Off to Formula E!
 
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Pimpwerx

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MikeDub said:
But you're never bringing in a replacement driver with the intention of blowing the competition away are you, it's a 'we have to make do' situation. This weekend would have been an almost perfect way to give Wolff a run. Season opener with teams barely functioning, a great PR opportunity and at the very least it's more miles and data for the team. Hell, it would have at least made the race interesting to watch compared to what we got.
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It's about securing max points regardless of who's in the car. Teams aren't out there for show. Why run a slower driver when a faster one is available and can secure championship points that will pay millions? Suzie Wolff getting an undeserved race seat would actually be the PR move, as she is unqualified. Even NAD pay drivers are usually champions or good drivers at lower formulas. PEACE.
 
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Ganzlinger

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DD said:
Can someone please tell the swiss press to calm down?

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This is not good for him. Only one race doesn't mean anything in this business. That pressure on Barrichello and Massa turned them into failure in the eyes of Brazilians, as both didn't succeed to be champion like Senna or Piquet. Barrichello is now a meme around here for "delay" and people lost patience with Massa when he lost to Bottas last year.
 
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DD

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Ganzlinger said:
This is not good for him. Only one race doesn't mean anything in this business. That pressure on Barrichello and Massa turned them into failure in the eyes of Brazilians, as both didn't succeed to be champion like Senna or Piquet. Barrichello is now a meme around here for "delay" and people lost patience with Massa when he lost to Bottas last year.
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:p
 
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Dead Man

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Ganzlinger said:
Massa at least should have more credit.. that 2008 season when he lost the title when Hamilton passed Glock in the last curve was unbelievable. And with the changes in punctuation system adopted later he would have been the champion. lol
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Auto correct still throwing up some wins. :)
 
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Hammer24

Banned
DBT85 said:
That makes perfect sense if they are just in formation for the race.

Seems like it could still get messy if one of them is getting royally shafted sitting behind a slightly slower car or something for 10 laps when the guy out front is just cruising and not pushing his tyres. Guy in front doesn't want to pit for another 5 laps so the guy in the Trulli train gets boned.
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Well, its still the preferable outcome from the team perspective. They don´t really care who of them finishes in front, as long as they finish, and preferably 1-2.
Oh, and they are allowed to race each other - when the man in front coastes too much - overtake him on track! :)
 
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itsgreen

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Giedo van der Garde statement
‘We have reached a settlement with Sauber and my driver contract with the team has been ended by mutual consent. As a passionate race driver, I feel sad and am very disappointed. I have worked very hard my entire career, ever since starting with go-karts at the age of eight, to live my dream and become a successful Formula One driver. I had hoped at last to be able to show what I am capable of, driving a car for a respected midfield team in the 2015 season. This dream has been taken away from me and I know that my future in Formula One is probably over.

I had a valid driver contract for the entire 2015 season and enforceable rights to it. I pushed very hard until last Saturday in Melbourne to get the drive that I was entitled to. This legal process started in 2014 and has taken a great deal of effort. It was never a last minute thing, but it only became public in the last week when we tried to force the team to accept the rulings of a succession of legal authorities and courts.

I am a race driver and all I want is to race. However, the team principal was adamant not to let me drive, notwithstanding my legal rights to do so and a series of rulings and court orders in my favour and despite my race driving abilities. I will never understand this. I could have persisted, but the team principal had taken a decision contrary to my contract that she would not work with me and this became painfully clear in the paddock in Melbourne. To push on against this determination might have brought down the team, it would most certainly have wrecked the opening Grand Prix in Melbourne because the team´s cars would have been seized by the court, it may have ruined the careers of two young drivers Marcus Ericsson and Felipe Nasr. Possibly the team´s directors would even be taken into custody. I decided I did not want to live with that idea, even though it was only the team’s management that was responsible for the bizarre situation I found myself in.

I am very grateful to my fans and many friends in Formula One who have given me a lot of support during the last couple of months. This period has been very difficult for me especially since I could not talk to anybody about the pending proceedings. Last week, many drivers on the grid gave me their support and several of them did so openly in the media as well. The same goes for several leading figures in the paddock who include team bosses and reputable former Formula One drivers. I thank them as well.
My future in motorsport has not finished: on the contrary, I see this as a new beginning. I will sit down with my management in the coming weeks to discuss my future plans. I would love to take part in the WEC and the Le Mans 24 Hours in an LMP1 car. Former Formula One drivers do very well in this series. We also have our eye on other series such as the DTM in 2016 and beyond.
There has been a lot of speculation in the media over the past week, so I want to set out clearly that my sponsors paid the sponsorship fee related to the 2015 season in its entirety to Sauber in the first half of 2014. This was simply in good faith and to help the team deal with its cash problems at the time. Effectively, it was my sponsor’s advanced payments that helped the team survive in 2014.
Sauber’s financial decision-making in this case is bizarre and makes no sense to me. I am not at liberty to discuss details, but Sauber paid significant compensation to avoid honouring the contract they had with me. Only in that respect can I be satisfied that my rights have finally been recognised and that at least some justice has been done.

I want to thank McGregor for sponsoring me from the time I won the Formula Renault 3.5 Ltr. Series in 2008. I hope we can continue to build on this as my motorsport career goes forward in other series.

I want to thank my family, my father Gerrit and my wife Denise in particular, for their tireless support throughout the years that I have been chasing my Formula One dream. The last couple of months have been especially hard for me but they have always stood by me. Of course, I also want to thank my father-in-law, Marcel Boekhoorn, who has been a great supporter during my entire career through the motorsport ranks. Without him, I would not have got this far.

I also thank Jeroen Schothorst and Jan Paul ten Hoopen for managing my career and business affairs since 2008 and in particular for their unconditional support during these last four and a half months. I also extend thanks to my legal advisor Gijs Rooijens and the law firms, Druces, Blackstone Chambers and King & Wood Mallesons (Australia), that worked very hard and enthusiastically – sometimes literally day and night and during weekends – to fight for my rights.

Finally, I would like to direct a few words to the teams, drivers, future drivers, their managers and the Formula One governing bodies. I sincerely hope that what has happened to me will start a movement aimed at setting new standards and bringing about new regulations to help protect the rights of drivers. I would like to think that the values and business ethics that apply in any other business should be equally applicable in Formula One. I am lucky to have had Marcel and Jeroen on my side. Both of them have extensive backgrounds in business and bring a lot of expertise to the table when it comes to resolving complicated business affairs. Without them, I would have remained empty-handed in the wake of this extraordinary affair. There are numerous examples of talented drivers with good intentions but without the sort of professional support that I have had, who have been broken by Formula One and who have seen their careers destroyed. I therefore hope that my unprecedented case which was heard last week by the Supreme Court of Victoria at Melbourne will serve as an example to illustrate what should change, and that new regulations will be implemented to help protect driver rights.’
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:)
 
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