"The Freeman Returns" with The Official Orange Box Thread

I haven't upgraded my PC since HL2 either(but i plan to sometime). I might get a PS3 but I think since I make maps and mods for a hobby I will buy it for PC.
 
The only rational reason to pick up either console version is that your computer chokes and dies playing HL2 Ep. 1 (certainly the barometer for the new content, with its engine upgrades) and you have no intention of upgrading.

The PC version is clearly superior. Better controls, more people in a game and dedicated servers for online. TF2 will enjoy a healthy mod scene with more custom maps than you will have time to play.

ONLY buy the console version if your PC sucks shit and you can't or won't upgrade. And even then... think hard about that upgrade.
 
Draft said:
The only rational reason to pick up either console version is that your computer chokes and dies playing HL2 Ep. 1 (certainly the barometer for the new content, with its engine upgrades) and you have no intention of upgrading.

The PC version is clearly superior. Better controls, more people in a game and dedicated servers for online. TF2 will enjoy a healthy mod scene with more custom maps than you will have time to play.

ONLY buy the console version if your PC sucks shit and you can't or won't upgrade. And even then... think hard about that upgrade.
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Gee, i don't think any of this was mentioned already in this thread, or 5000 others.
 
I'll be buying the 360 version. I'd rather get it on PS3, but anyone even thinking that port won't be complete shit is nuts. I hope it's not and the team at EA does a great job, but that's not likely.

Here's hoping they prove me wrong.
 
Draft said:
ONLY buy the console version if your PC sucks shit and you can't or won't upgrade.
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Or, you just don't like shutting yourself away from the world in your computer room.

I will be buying the 360 version and will enjoy it from the comfort of my couch and big TV. I've never played Half Life 2 so this is a great package for me. Not interested in Portal or TF2 (I hated TFC), but HL2 and the 2 episodes is worth the price of admission as far as I'm concerned.
 
I don't really enjoy playing games with a kb/m anymore.

So, if I end up getting the whole box, it'll be the PS3 version at some point; just so I can use the controller.

And I already have HL2 PC, so if it would be nice to play it on a console. And if I want to play something steam on my PC, I already have a ton of stuff.

I'll get Portal from Steam when it comes out. That looks like crazy fun and it looks like I'll need the kb/m controls to enjoy it fully.
 
Mar_ said:
Or, you just don't like shutting yourself away from the world in your computer room.

I will be buying the 360 version and will enjoy it from the comfort of my couch and big TV. I've never played Half Life 2 so this is a great package for me. Not interested in Portal or TF2 (I hated TFC), but HL2 and the 2 episodes is worth the price of admission as far as I'm concerned.
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Man, is the 'comfy couch' and 'big tv' a part of you guys talking points? I swear I hear those same two arguments made every time :lol
 
i'm not sure i understand that argument. that's like asking pc enthusiasts to give up the "keyboard and mouse is more accurate" argument. of course someone who wants to play it on console is going to point out the fact that they don't have to sit in a computer chair in front of a 17" monitor--that's the biggest advantage of the console version
 
"i'm not sure i understand that argument. that's like asking pc enthusiasts to give up the "keyboard and mouse is more accurate" argument. of course someone who wants to play it on console is going to point out the fact that they don't have to sit in a computer chair in front of a 17" monitor--that's the biggest advantage of the console version"


Except couch/big TV aren't exclusive to consoles.
 
lockii said:
Man, is the 'comfy couch' and 'big tv' a part of you guys talking points? I swear I hear those same two arguments made every time :lol
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As you will also hear keyboard/mouse, and user created content again and again with pc gamers. They both have their advantages and those that prefer certain aspects will let it be known again and again.
 
PS3 version for me. But like many here, I'm praying to God that EA UK does a great job with the port. For some reason, knowing that EA UK and Criterion are in the same building gives me some weird sense of hope that they're sharing know-how of the PS3's guts. Maybe......just maybe..... EA will also feel obliged to make a great port of the Orange Box, since Gabe Newell seems pretty happy teaming up with EA for publishing and distribution. After all, Valve are also releasing Left 4 Dead through EA for 360. But I'm really tempted to get Orange Box next week and just play it on my nephew's 360. It's gonna be a long wait till November for the PS3 version.
 
Teknopathetic said:
Except couch/big TV aren't exclusive to consoles.
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so you have a breakfast in bed table you sit your keyboard and mouse on while you sit on your couch? i'm having trouble imagining a practical setup here. i'm sure it's entirely possible, but you're looking at a ridiculous amount of investment and a lot of work around just to use a keyboard and a mouse while sitting on a couch in front of a tv
 
C4Lukins said:
As you will also hear keyboard/mouse, and user created content again and again with pc gamers. They both have their advantages and those that prefer certain aspects will let it be known again and again.
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I'm just commenting on the remarkable similarity they all seem to have.
 
I certainly wasn't trying to say that the PC version isn't as valid as the console version. Jesus, please let's not turn this thread into a console vs PC argument. I just wanted to present the other side of the coin that Draft wasn't seeing.

I've been the PC gamer. Bioshock was my first console FPS after years and years of sworn PC FPS game bias. I've played in many tournaments in different Quake versions etc. But after a year of playing WoW, I really can't stand to be on that computer playing games anymore. I'd really prefer to just relax on my couch these days.

After playing Bioshock on console I just realised I'm better off putting up with the control problems and playing the game, having a good time. Than sitting in my rocking chair shaking my walking stick at anyone who dares say FPS games should only be played on PC. Which is what I used to do.
 
"so you have a breakfast in bed table you sit your keyboard and mouse on while you sit on your couch? i'm having trouble imagining a practical setup here. i'm sure it's entirely possible, but you're looking at a ridiculous amount of investment and a lot of work around just to use a keyboard and a mouse while sitting on a couch in front of a tv"


Ridiculous amount of work and investment? To...sit a keyboard somewhere?

You rock on, dude.
 
You know you don't have much of an argument when the ability to be a couch potato is your primary bullet point.

The M.O.B said:
Do we really need to have this same argument every time?
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Well, yeah

beelzebozo said:
so you have a breakfast in bed table you sit your keyboard and mouse on while you sit on your couch? i'm having trouble imagining a practical setup here. i'm sure it's entirely possible, but you're looking at a ridiculous amount of investment and a lot of work around just to use a keyboard and a mouse while sitting on a couch in front of a tv
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Any solid surface will do for the mouse. Keyboard goes in lap.
 
360 version for. Even though my PC could run episode one decently I'd just rather play on my couch. Yes, I understand that I could hook up my PC to my sound system/TV but I need it in my other room for my art to display reference pictures.

I can't very well paint on the couch.
 
lockii said:
I'm just commenting on the remarkable similarity they all seem to have.
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I am not saying you are wrong, just that it is human nature to defend your platform of choice with the best arguments you can come up with. With consoles it is price, comfort, ease of use, and big screen tv, and with PC it is controls, user created content and mods, resolution, and the ability to upgrade. Whenever it comes down to PC vs Console the defenders of the land will always resort to these key points.
 
Mar_ said:
Or, you just don't like shutting yourself away from the world in your computer room.
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that's the dumbest thing i've read today, congratulations.

i thought i might make it through the day without reading something borderline retarded.
 
TemplaerDude said:
that's the dumbest thing i've read today, congratulations.

i thought i might make it through the day without reading something borderline retarded.
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Yeah it certainly is a retarded thing to say. I mean, after working all day every day on computers. During my leisure time I should feel over joyed at getting right back on one at the end of the day and play some games!
 
Mar_ said:
Yeah it certainly is a retarded thing to say. I mean, after working all day every day on computers. During my leisure time I should feel over joyed at getting right back on one at the end of the day and play some games!
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... I'm certain you know that consoles are computers by the broad definition of the word, and sitting on one kind of surface staring at a screen for hours isn't such a great escape from sitting on another kind of surface staring at a different screen for hours.
 
Mar_ said:
Yeah it certainly is a retarded thing to say. I mean, after working all day every day on computers. During my leisure time I should feel over joyed at getting right back on one at the end of the day and play some games!
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People are going to pick this apart, but this is how I sometimes feel, despite being a fairly avid pc gamer.
 
The Sphinx said:
... I'm certain you know that consoles are computers by the broad definition of the word, and sitting on one kind of surface staring at a screen for hours isn't such a great escape from sitting on another kind of surface staring at a different screen for hours.
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It's most certainly a completely different experience in my house. But I don't care what anyone plays their games on. I just wanted to respond to Draft's post who was expecting everyone who has a computer should be playing Orange Box on PC. Well, no. They don't have to and there is valid reasons for all choices actually.

I have said everything I wanted to say in post #271. But you guys feel free to carry the torch for PC games.
 
Mar_ said:
It's most certainly a completely different experience in my house. But I don't care what anyone plays their games on. I just wanted to respond to Draft's post who was expecting everyone who has a computer should be playing Orange Box on PC. Well, no. They don't have to and there is valid reasons for all choices actually.

I have said everything I wanted to say in post #271. But you guys feel free to carry the torch for PC games.
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I'm no torch-carrier for PC games. That previous post just sounded more like an argument for taking up racquetball as a hobby than 360 gaming, that's all.
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
Er, couldn't you just hook up a controller to the PC if the whole idea of using kb+m from a couch is so unappealing?
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Absolutely. But then you have to configure a controller, and in my case, I would need to carry a recliner upstairs to my office.
 
Chiggs said:
Absolutely. But then you have to configure a controller, and in my case, I would need to carry a recliner upstairs to my office.
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Oh, I meant if it's feasible for the person to hook the PC up to the TV in the first place. Not saying it's a realistic option for everyone, but it's an option nonetheless.
 
The Sphinx said:
... I'm certain you know that consoles are computers by the broad definition of the word, and sitting on one kind of surface staring at a screen for hours isn't such a great escape from sitting on another kind of surface staring at a different screen for hours.
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Yes they are exactly the same thing. Just as staring out my back window at my apartment swimming pool and doing the same thing on a beach are the exact same experiences. It is great how you can simplify any task to its absolute most broad definition and make it look idiotic.
 
C4Lukins said:
Yes they are exactly the same thing. Just as staring out my back window at my apartment swimming pool and doing the same thing on a beach are the exact same experiences. It is great how you can simplify any task to its absolute most broad definition and make it look idiotic.
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:shrug: It's my opinion that using-a-PC-as-a-workstation and using-a-PC-as-a-gaming-center aren't much alike, other than those superficials. If you're trying to say they're very different experiences then I agree and you're arguing with the wrong guy.
 
The Sphinx said:
:shrug: It's my opinion that using-a-PC-as-a-workstation and using-a-PC-as-a-gaming-center aren't much alike, other than those superficials. If you're trying to say they're very different experiences then I agree and you're arguing with the wrong guy.
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I just think that the console experience is very different from the PC experience. And just like watching tv for hours on end then playing a console game can be draining, the same can be said for working on a PC all day then playing a PC game all night. I have always found PC gaming to be more immersing and console gaming to be more relaxing. It is all about preference in the end.
 
C4Lukins said:
I just think that the console experience is very different from the PC experience. And just like watching tv for hours on end then playing a console game can be draining, the same can be said for working on a PC all day then playing a PC game all night. I have always found PC gaming to be more immersing and console gaming to be more relaxing. It is all about preference in the end.
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OK, that's fair enough. I'm one of the people who has a PC in the living room, and in fact I'm sitting on my couch typing this post with my bluetooth keyboard and reading your posts on my HDTV right now. (I admit this isn't my main gaming PC, which is in a separate room like most). It's true that most people don't have any incentive to put PCs in their living rooms yet, and if you haven't done it so far one good PC release like the Orange Box isn't going to convince you to do so when you already have a 360 hooked up ready to go.
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
Er, couldn't you just hook up a controller to the PC if the whole idea of using kb+m from a couch is so unappealing?
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For me, they (gamepads) don't seem to work with HL and HL2 for some reason.

I'd absolutely go the PC route if could get either my logitech or, preferably, my sixaxis working with these games.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
The Jer said:
For me, it doesn't seem to work with HL and HL2 for some reason.

I'd absolutely go the PC route if could get either my logitech or, preferably, my sixaxis working with these games.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Stupid question I'm sure, but have you asked Valve about it?
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
Stupid question I'm sure, but have you asked Valve about it?
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Not a stupid question. I, actually, haven't asked valve about it yet. It's just one of those things I've been too lazy to get around to, I guess.
 
I dunno about Ep 2 and Portal, but TF2 has an option under Mouse to support gamepads and it synced up with my wired 360 pad perfectly, didn't have to change any buttons.
 
Speevy said:
Is there any merit to the PS3 version of this game whatsoever?

I've never seen such a redheaded stepchild in all of gaming.
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Hey welcome back. I was wondering where were you all the time.
 
C4Lukins said:
As you will also hear keyboard/mouse, and user created content again and again with pc gamers. They both have their advantages and those that prefer certain aspects will let it be known again and again.
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Are you console defenders really THAT dense?

You can't have KB&M, user created content, supreme graphics on consoles.

CAN NOT

Physically NOT POSSIBLE.

You can have "comfy couch & TV" with the PC version.

CAN

Physically POSSIBLE.

"Comfy couch & TV" is no argument, absolutely none. It only makes consoles owners even more silly in this debate.

After playing Bioshock on console I just realised I'm better off putting up with the control problems and playing the game, having a good time. Than sitting in my rocking chair shaking my walking stick at anyone who dares say FPS games should only be played on PC. Which is what I used to do.
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That is absolutely true.

Sometimes when I think I have to play Gothic 2 after work (8 hours of coding in front of a laptop, daily) again in front of a PC I simply say "fuck it" and launch God of War 2 or Metroid Prime 2 on my consoles.

PC gaming CAN BE a chore, especially if you work with PCs, daily. But that fact doesn't make console gaming magically superior.
 
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