The GAF Video and Filmmaking Thread

MickD said:
D90 is getting a bump..

So I'm thinking of switching from my canon mini dv camera to something in the DSLR.

Is there any cameras that are capable of shooting more than 30 minutes without overheating? I shoot live music and other things. Clients like one solid video.
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it depends on the situation. in a moderately air conditioned room, i shot 50 minutes before my 7D gave the overheating warning.

then again, i tried shooting some LPGA players playing tennis at the US Women's Open a couple weeks ago during a pittsburgh heat wave... my 7D only lasted 5 minutes. it was fucking hot out, i didn't blame it, i wanted to stop too.

just take time in between songs to turn the camera off and open up the memory card slot, let it air out a little. you should be okay.
 
brerwolfe said:
actually, that's exactly what you want to do. if you have them on the same channel you have zero flexibility in the edit.

there should be a setting once you go to export, you probably have it to export stereo. changing it to export mono should have it come out both speakers.
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Ahk, I'm not to hot in Pro Tools just yet, but I'm still learning all the tricks.
 
brerwolfe said:
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Thx for the info, yea I'm in Texas so it's always hot. Was thinking about getting something, but I will wait till these get better and stick with my canon hd for now.
 
Okay. I just decided on the camera I'm going to use for my projects...

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14.2-megapixel DX-format CMOS image sensor; 3-inch monitor with One-Touch Live View shooting and movie capture

Includes 3x 18-55mm Zoom-NIKKOR VR Image Stabilization lens

Full 1080p HD Cinematic Video with full-time autofocus and sound


A video entirely shot with the D3100

For only $700 I can have a camera that produces movie quality stuff. With the right lens and equipment I can get whatever shot I want and it'll look good in full 1080p. It's perfect for me. I also wanted to try my hand at photography and buy a Nikon D90 but this kills two birds with one stone.
 
BlackGoku03 said:
For only $700 I can have a camera that produces movie quality stuff. With the right lens and equipment I can get whatever shot I want and it'll look good in full 1080p. It's perfect for me. I also wanted to try my hand at photography and buy a Nikon D90 but this kills two birds with one stone.
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The right user can make any camera produce 'movie quality' stuff.

Don't rely on the camera alone to give you the look you want, it still takes work.
 
brerwolfe said:
just learned today that a short test film we made in May was accepted into a horror film festival here in orlando. i thought we were making a comedy, but i guess it was just that bad... ;)

but really, a coworker has some friends that do special fx makeup at Universal Studios. they had a script that they wanted to try and shoot, and we had just purchased a couple 7D's.

if we did it all again, i would demand that we use more light... i tried to tell the "director" that we can always bring it back in post, but we can't add more light without introducing grain and artifacting.

i have the link hidden so it appears to be offline for whatever film festivals have that as a requirement, but i'd be happy to get any critiques/questions/comments gaf might want to throw out there. here's the link:

http://vimeo.com/11762514
password: date

here's a still from the shoot:

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I tried watching it, but the first half of it was almost complete darkness. You still gotta light that.
 
oatmeal said:
The right user can make any camera produce 'movie quality' stuff.

Don't rely on the camera alone to give you the look you want, it still takes work.
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I know. What was important to me was getting rid of the camcorder I have and getting a professional one. I was dreading spending anywhere near 2 grand just for the camera. Now 2 grand will get me the camera, a few lenses, a shoulder mount and some SDHC cards.

It's a great value.
 
BlackGoku03 said:
I know. What was important to me was getting rid of the camcorder I have and getting a professional one. I was dreading spending anywhere near 2 grand just for the camera. Now 2 grand will get me the camera, a few lenses, a shoulder mount and some SDHC cards.

It's a great value.
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I agree!

Good luck with the purchase!
 
oatmeal said:
I tried watching it, but the first half of it was almost complete darkness. You still gotta light that.
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you aren't telling me anything i don't already know.

the "director" said he wanted complete darkness. i said, what's the point in shooting anything? why not put a big fucking radio on screen and make it look like a radio broadcast movie then? i told him we have to light it, we have to be able to see something, we can always bring it back in post, but we can't make it brighter without it looking like shit.

short story long, the version they compromised on is SIGNIFICANTLY brighter than the first versions we shot. i'll get angry if i keep talking about it, i just thought you should know that i knew it was dark. way dark.
 
brerwolfe said:
you aren't telling me anything i don't already know.

the "director" said he wanted complete darkness. i said, what's the point in shooting anything? why not put a big fucking radio on screen and make it look like a radio broadcast movie then? i told him we have to light it, we have to be able to see something, we can always bring it back in post, but we can't make it brighter without it looking like shit.

short story long, the version they compromised on is SIGNIFICANTLY brighter than the first versions we shot. i'll get angry if i keep talking about it, i just thought you should know that i knew it was dark. way dark.
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Yeah I read your post, I was just saying in general...perhaps giving you more ammo to go against the director.

That's crazy though...what was his thought process for that? I can't understand it.
 
he had never made a film of any sort before, so he didn't understand the process. he just happened to write a basic script, and since it was his idea, it was his responsibility.

my coworker/friend and i were really only on board because we had both just purchased 7D's and wanted to shoot something with them, anything. it was a frustrating back and forth, and had they not been friends of my friend, i would've walked away after the first day of shooting and left them to their own devices.

i like it for what it is, but it doesn't add anything new or different to the genre or filmmaking in general. it's not something i would show to prospective clients, which is one of the reasons i have it hidden on my vimeo account. gore/horror/gorror, whatever you want to call it, isn't a genre i want to spend any time in.

aside from working with the prosthetics and sfx makeup, there isn't much from this film that i can really look back on fondly. they put me in the credits as DP, i told them i really didn't want to be credited, especially for DP. just say i'm a camera op. having a DP credit for the first 5 minutes of this movie is kinda embarrassing!
 
I screen for a medical study that is 8500 dollars. What is a great camera to make professional looking films with? I was thinking about using that cash to possibly just put down on a HPX 370 but would like to have 2,000 for living expenses and noise equipment for the next couple of months but I should have a real job too soon hopefully so I might just splurge and get that beast.
 
brerwolfe said:
he had never made a film of any sort before, so he didn't understand the process. he just happened to write a basic script, and since it was his idea, it was his responsibility.

my coworker/friend and i were really only on board because we had both just purchased 7D's and wanted to shoot something with them, anything. it was a frustrating back and forth, and had they not been friends of my friend, i would've walked away after the first day of shooting and left them to their own devices.

i like it for what it is, but it doesn't add anything new or different to the genre or filmmaking in general. it's not something i would show to prospective clients, which is one of the reasons i have it hidden on my vimeo account. gore/horror/gorror, whatever you want to call it, isn't a genre i want to spend any time in.

aside from working with the prosthetics and sfx makeup, there isn't much from this film that i can really look back on fondly. they put me in the credits as DP, i told them i really didn't want to be credited, especially for DP. just say i'm a camera op. having a DP credit for the first 5 minutes of this movie is kinda embarrassing!
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Yeah, the make up is actually really well done! I wouldn't have focused on the fake face for so long as you can tell it's fake, but the close ups work well. Especially nice considering it was just a quick project...who did them?

:lol @ getting DP credit. That's funny...please don't let people think I did this :D
 
AlternativeUlster said:
I screen for a medical study that is 8500 dollars. What is a great camera to make professional looking films with? I was thinking about using that cash to possibly just put down on a HPX 370 but would like to have 2,000 for living expenses and noise equipment for the next couple of months but I should have a real job too soon hopefully so I might just splurge and get that beast.
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8500 dollars for a medical study? Goddamnit...that's a lot of cash.

Fuck the HPX, go DSLR.

Buy a 7D (1500 BODY)
+ either a nice zoom (500ish), or a couple of primes (28, 50 would do you fine for awhile) (800)
+ Tripod/Shoulder Rig (whichever you prefer) (500)
+ Zoom H4n or similar audio device (300)
+ A few memory cards/batteries (300)
+ Shotgun mic with some XLR (200)
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You're in the range of 3500.

Compare that with the 8-10 grand you'd drop on an HPX370, and it's a no brainer.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
I screen for a medical study that is 8500 dollars. What is a great camera to make professional looking films with? I was thinking about using that cash to possibly just put down on a HPX 370 but would like to have 2,000 for living expenses and noise equipment for the next couple of months but I should have a real job too soon hopefully so I might just splurge and get that beast.
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Dude, I thought you got out of the guinea pig game? What happened?

When you get that camera, you should come shoot a movie with me. I have a pretty mean-spirited story for a 'found footage' movie.
 
another friend i met while working on a reality show has an idea for a short film. he's going to write it this week and throw out a casting call for it. i'll let you guys know more when we start shooting it, presumably by the end of september.

it's a fun little idea, almost a tongue-in-cheek psychological thriller.

is anyone else shooting anything at the moment?
 
I run a production company in Portland and each year we compete in www.48hourfilm.com. It's a national contest where you have 48 hours to write, shoot and edit a short film. There were 56 teams this year in our town. Each team draws a genre, but all the teams share required elements which are a line, a character and a prop.

Anyways... this was our entry this year. (we drew dark comedy).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo5PrLV5jCE

We had a ton of fun making it, it's far from perfect, but it is what we could do with 48 hours. In case anyone is wondering, we shoot on a JVC HD110.
 
I did the 48 last year, but passed on it this year.

I've got a few music videos coming up in the next month and a half. And I have a first draft of a short pilot that I want to shoot in October/November-ish.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Dude, I thought you got out of the guinea pig game? What happened?

When you get that camera, you should come shoot a movie with me. I have a pretty mean-spirited story for a 'found footage' movie.
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It is tough trying to get a job in Austin. I just got back into town a couple of weeks ago and need some fast cash and came across this study. Sucky part is if I do it then I can't go to Fantastic Fest. I hope one of my job interviews goes through so I don't have to do it and just save up for a camera. Find me on Facebook. Christopher Scott Knudsen is the full name so you know. I want to know more about your "found footage" film and I can send you what I want to make into a movie.
 
Chuchamo Revisited

A night that started out with me and a bunch of friends being really bored which turned into trying to make music on a computer which then turned into filming a remake of one of our early movies

Kinda sucks, but whatever. This was more of a test to see if we could make a psuedo-creepy film work. Tell me what you think GAF :D
 
Soakedjunk said:
I run a production company in Portland and each year we compete in www.48hourfilm.com. It's a national contest where you have 48 hours to write, shoot and edit a short film. There were 56 teams this year in our town. Each team draws a genre, but all the teams share required elements which are a line, a character and a prop.

Anyways... this was our entry this year. (we drew dark comedy).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo5PrLV5jCE

We had a ton of fun making it, it's far from perfect, but it is what we could do with 48 hours. In case anyone is wondering, we shoot on a JVC HD110.
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Yeah... my buddy entered that. this is his video: http://vimeo.com/13436331

It was a realy good one. he entered it an hour late though.
 
On a total side note. They recently announced the film software lightworks is going open source. It's not done and released yet, but it's coming later this year.
 
BlackGoku03 said:
Yeah... my buddy entered that. this is his video: http://vimeo.com/13436331

It was a realy good one. he entered it an hour late though.
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Yah it's rough getting them done in time. That was the 4th one I've done and we pretty much have a system down to make sure we stay on track, but every year there are always several that get turned in late.
 
What about the other filmmaking thread?:(


Anyone know any good turtorials to get started with editing(editing philosophy) - prefereably video guides, and guides to get started with after effects?
 
Vigilant Walrus said:
What about the other filmmaking thread?:(


Anyone know any good turtorials to get started with editing(editing philosophy) - prefereably video guides, and guides to get started with after effects?
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if you have netflix instant queue, check out "The Cutting Edge," there's a lot of knowledge in there.

also, what's the other filmmaking thread?
 
Woohoo! I will try and draw attention to my shitty short films here too.

First one is Canis (a Cani being some sort of the Spanish equivalent of a teenage guido/douchebag).

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You can see it here: http://vimeo.com/8819440 (Spanish with English subs)

Second one is Emos, and I already did a thread about it but what the hell, maybe I can get some more feedback here. No poster yet, sadly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-U3NjOJx6Y&hd=1

And if you guys wanna talk editing or production, that would be de-light-ful!
 
BlackGoku03 said:
I know. What was important to me was getting rid of the camcorder I have and getting a professional one. I was dreading spending anywhere near 2 grand just for the camera. Now 2 grand will get me the camera, a few lenses, a shoulder mount and some SDHC cards.

It's a great value.
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I would hold off buying D3100 until the reviews come in.

It doesn't have a mic input so with that full time auto focus, the built in mono microphone will likely be picking up a lot of noise from the camera.
 
broadwayrock said:
I would hold off buying D3100 until the reviews come in.

It doesn't have a mic input so with that full time auto focus, the built in mono microphone will likely be picking up a lot of noise from the camera.
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Yeah... I had a long conversation with the fellows in the camera megathread. I'll be getting the Canon T2i instead.
 
Pretty basic question, but...

How do you pull off the reverse shot? (ala one person talking to another, you can see the one one person's face, and the back of the other person's head. It's probably the most standard shot I see in sitcoms.)

I mean...do you HAVE to have two cameras? Do you use one and film the scene twice? I just don't want to have to switch the camera 15 times for one two-minute conversation.
 
Barrage said:
Pretty basic question, but...

How do you pull off the reverse shot? (ala one person talking to another, you can see the one one person's face, and the back of the other person's head. It's probably the most standard shot I see in sitcoms.)

I mean...do you HAVE to have two cameras? Do you use one and film the scene twice? I just don't want to have to switch the camera 15 times for one two-minute conversation.
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Assuming you're talking of sitcoms like Friends or Married with Children, those formats use multiple cameras.
 
Barrage said:
Pretty basic question, but...

How do you pull off the reverse shot? (ala one person talking to another, you can see the one one person's face, and the back of the other person's head. It's probably the most standard shot I see in sitcoms.)

I mean...do you HAVE to have two cameras? Do you use one and film the scene twice? I just don't want to have to switch the camera 15 times for one two-minute conversation.
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One camera...shoot over the shoulder of the entire scene, then flip and do it again.

No need to switch every time the dialogue switches, do that in editing.
 
oatmeal said:
One camera...shoot over the shoulder of the entire scene, then flip and do it again.

No need to switch every time the dialogue switches, do that in editing.
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Yeah, thats how the easiest way to get in done. With the feature I shot in July (8minutes out of 110 edited so far . . *sigh*) you just shoot coverage. Lets say two people are talking, easy conversation, 2 over the shoulders, a close up or two and a wide. It's really basic, but edited together it comes across on screen.

What you really need to worry about then is whatever your actors say or do on screen they keep it consistent. Eating, drinking, smoking, saying their lines, shuffling clothes . . any and everything. Continuity, bro!
 
Last week, I went out with my wife and shot a bunch of footage so I can play around with the Final Cut Studio package a bit more (notably Motion and Compressor). This is the result:

The Spirit

There's a number of shortcomings I couldn't overcome at the current time because of lack of equipment and/or knowledge. One of those would be the jitteriness of the initial footage. I don't have a steady cam mechanism, so I was using a monopod held stiffly against my side for the opening and the stair sequence. I also had to use FCP's smooth cam video filter, which did as well of a job as one could ask.

Other than that, if anyone has any color correction tips and/or general transition/editing tips, I'd love to hear them. I'm open to whatever.
 
Cool thread. I would love to get more into filmmaking, I just don't have the money for the equipment. But I'm really more into the editing aspect and have been using video game footage to edit with and add music to and such. Rockstar Games tweeted about my latest video a couple months ago, so that was was super cool :D
 
Heyo, this is not a "film," but I wanted to get some tips on editing and anything else you can help me with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr9q645buro

A couple of things:

I'm using a crappy webcam mic because I can't justify spending the money on something better for now.

Also, the tournament footage is not mine (the one that's used the most is from stock footage used for the video replay) but I'd appreciate tips on what equipment and method to use for filming fencing in the future.
 
Willy105 said:
That's kinda disturbing. A 7 minute film, you say?
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Yeah, it's only about 7 minutes long. :lol And thank you... I wanted the trailer to be disturbing in a psychological way.
 
Allright, so this really isn't much but I figured I'd get some feedback. This is barely the first minute of the rough cut of the feature I shot over July.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_jAq86Wl-M

Would love some feedback.

Technical things:
- Everything was shot my one T2i, with the Tamron 17-50 2.0 VC. If you missed the hand held rig I made, the camera was all mounted to that little beauty.
- All sound was done on a Zoom H4n with a boom pole I made and a mic I got off of amazon.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any words, kind or harsh!


fake edit: Just noticed the sound is a smidge behind in some shots. Gotta' fix that.
 
I thought that was great. I personally would get rid of that shot of closing the door. I didn't think that angle worked, felt oddly a bit disorienting. The acting is pretty good so far.
 
I started learning After Effects during the summer in my spare time. I finished my "studio" logo recently by combining 2-3 video copilot tutorials:

Studio Logo

There's a couple of old tests up there too.

Edit - After seeing some of the image quality some of you guys are posting in this thread and the other film-making one, I'm set on selling the HV20+35mm rig to get a 5D. I'm looking forward to low light shooting and having something more mobile.
 
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