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louie said:Hilarious.
In the Aeroplane over the Sea, right?
Exactly! I'm happy that someone else got it.
louie said:Hilarious.
In the Aeroplane over the Sea, right?
Fidelis Hodie said:Exactly! I'm happy that someone else got it.
Futureman said:Yea that was pretty cool. Do you have a link to any other videos you've done?
I'm preparing a little staged documentary to be released on Friday, I'll throw a link up on here.
soultron said:Those Blue Jays fans are definitely trouble, Henry Gale.
This will be an interesting read for me. I do work with my student television network and it'd be neat to learn some tips. I film and edit for a couple of shows.
HenryGale said:Haha cant believe you could see what hat that was in such a short spot, and it was kind of dark. Nice catch.
Did you like it?
Thoughts critiques?
UltimaPooh said:Well since you asked you need work on the camera angles in the beginning. Some of them are repetitive or too close to the shot before it.
The sounds is weird, at some points you have little ambient knows to a lot of ambient noise (city shots.) The music is also too high. If you're trying to tell a story through the music you should cut the dialogue audio. We already have a strong sense of what is happening without the audio. Let the movie tell it's story through actions not words.
I would recommend a shot of some type on the pregnancy test showing that it says she is pregnant.
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Here is a short film I did a couple years ago as a final project in college. Let me know what you guys think. I was the sound supervisor and assistant sound designer on the project. My speciality is editing but I was assigned to sound on this project.
http://vimeo.com/5308662
http://vimeo.com/5308662
sans_pants said:not bad henry, id work on the sound mix. visuals are good
oatmeal said:Henry, did you shoot at 720p60?
oatmeal said:I just got interviewed for the Las Vegas Review Journal for the Dam Short Fest that is coming up next week.
My short "Modern Art" is in it and they wanted to profile one of the filmmakers...so that'll be interesting, article comes out on the 10th.
Here's the short film if anyone is curious:
http://vimeo.com/8041489
HenryGale said:If you mean the music.. It is a lot better than it appears. I had to cut it from 9:28 to 5min for applications. Although I think it greatly helped the film. The effect it had was me taking a 9 min audio sequence and trying to fit it back together.
If you mean the ambient noise. Yes, you are correct. I need some more work in that. In fact my Capstone presentation teacher has challenged me to make that my primary focus on my next project for this semester. He thinks it could really push my work to the next level if I can get over a lot of amateur follies.
Dreams-Visions said:does anyone here have any insight into Green Screen?
my little brother is shooting a music video for one of his songs and is trying to figure out what a reasonable price is for the graphics work after the shoot. I'm assuming maybe a minute or 2 of green screen.
No, we have people shooting it professionally. He wanted to create some sort of futuristic looking scene for a couple of shots. I'd have to look at the proposed treatment, though.UltimaPooh said:Is he shooting and editing it himself? If so why not just do the green screen itself. It's a simple color correction type thing.
sans_pants said:you just live in vegas or do you go to school here?
Dreams-Visions said:No, we have people shooting it professionally. He wanted to create some sort of futuristic looking scene for a couple of shots. I'd have to look at the proposed treatment, though.
oh, they're complete novices looking to shoot their first video. they just know what they'd like to do and have it on paper...and have been assembling teams to help realize the goal. I just don't know (and don't know if THEY know) what really goes into making green screen turn into a believable reality...or how much it costs.oatmeal said:Green screen is a giant pain in the ass.
You can key it pretty well in After Effects, but to do a realistic futuristic setting...that's going to be a big challenge. I would assume he's not a good compositor if he's already asking how to do green screen.
Dreams-Visions said:oh, they're complete novices looking to shoot their first video. they just know what they'd like to do and have it on paper...and have been assembling teams to help realize the goal. I just don't know (and don't know if THEY know) what really goes into making green screen turn into a believable reality...or how much it costs.
I totally wasn't clear.oatmeal said:Technically it costs nothing, just time and years off of your life.
If he's wondering what to charge, since he's not a professional, charge what he feels is fair. But he's in for a rude awakening.
Also, put tracking markers on the green screen...if there's any movement, you'll be forced to try and find something to track, or hand track. Neither of which are very fun.
Thanks, to the both of you who replied it helped me out. I will post the final YouTube video sometime this month. It's my first music video.oatmeal said:File > Export > Using Quicktime Conversion > Options:
Set Video Size to 1280x720. Keep it on BEST QUALITY (under encoding). I set mine to 6500kbps. I turn off Prepare for Internet Streaming.
Dreams-Visions said:I totally wasn't clear.
My little brother is the artist in a music video. He's doing the singing and dancing. He and his managers are trying to fullful an idea he had to implement some Green Screen in order to accomplish particular "futuristic" looks here and there. But none of them have really done anything like that and are still trying to get an idea how it works. They've assembled a team to do the video work and green screen, but editing the video and putting in the graphics stuff is beyond their experience level. I was thinking GAF might have some ideas about how expensive that kind of service is, per hour. They'd want someone professional enough to create the look they seek (a professional look).
sorry for not having been clear.
oatmeal said:
HenryGale said:Some of it, most of it was 1080 30FPS. I did the 60FPS on anything I felt I may have wanted to slow.
7D was an amazing tool. It took a little getting use to. I cant wait to utilize it this time around now that I am more familiar with the equipment.
Dreams-Visions said:I totally wasn't clear.
My little brother is the artist in a music video. He's doing the singing and dancing. He and his managers are trying to fullful an idea he had to implement some Green Screen in order to accomplish particular "futuristic" looks here and there. But none of them have really done anything like that and are still trying to get an idea how it works. They've assembled a team to do the video work and green screen, but editing the video and putting in the graphics stuff is beyond their experience level. I was thinking GAF might have some ideas about how expensive that kind of service is, per hour. They'd want someone professional enough to create the look they seek (a professional look).
sorry for not having been clear.
oatmeal said:I just got interviewed for the Las Vegas Review Journal for the Dam Short Fest that is coming up next week.
My short "Modern Art" is in it and they wanted to profile one of the filmmakers...so that'll be interesting, article comes out on the 10th.
Here's the short film if anyone is curious:
http://vimeo.com/8041489
Gotcha. I'll pass that along. Thank you.oatmeal said:OOOOH, haha. Sorry, that makes sense, too.
I'm not really an effects guy, but the company I used to work for charged I think 350/hour for their graphics work.
Sooo... It's expensive.
oatmeal said:As for the rest, strictly technical thoughts...
- The look is interesting, I kind of like it. High contrast, the pink/green gradient. It's unique.
- There are a lot of issues with the way it's shot...
a) The cut at :31 is really bizarre, it's almost the EXACT same shot as the previous one (sans the 'dolly' move), only the girl isn't as far into the frame. So it's like a jump cut backwards in time.
b) Some of the shots I think may have been too ambitious, or needed more time to get them 'right' as it's pretty jerky. I'm referring to the CU of the dropped keys and then the jib over to the guy on the bench. It's so wonky that it would have been better if it was just a CU of the keys falling, cut to a CU of the guy looking. Keep it simple.
c) Crossing the axis when he's giving the keys back. That's a big no-no.
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Cuts to:
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Which violates the 180 rule. The next cut is back to the first shot, so it crosses again.
- The audio is tough to hear in the conversation, and there is some 'wind on the mic' ruffle.
- When the dude goes into the house, more 180 breakage.
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Cuts to:
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- Back on the bench, there's just a lot of long shots that may be 'cool', but they just add unnecessary time...like the long pan and jib down to the keys. A lot of dead space in that shot.
- The shot through the staircase posts was nice. Good foreground, clear intent in the action, even though it's just pelvis down.
- It gets really dark inside, need to light that, even dark scenes are lit.
- Some focus issues when he hands the key over at ~4:00
Annnd stuff...sorry, I like to pick at technical stuff. Most of it is fine, it's just the 180 rule that you need to follow.
sans_pants said:dont sweat it too much, i almost never hear good sound unless its pro
that said, bad sound is a serious roadblock to getting noticed
oatmeal said:Why did you choose 1080p30? Just a stylistic choice...or?
Yeah, the 7D is great.
HenryGale said:WARNING MEGA REPLY
Holy crap, thats some of the best feedback I've gotten so far. Thanks!
I'm glad you like the filters. I tried to give it an odd dream like state for the first time around, and a darker cool tone for the bad day.
The cut you refer to I cant really argue with. It is two separate shots, and in the original you can see its much farther down the road, this is my shortened version. I just didn't have any other footage to replace those shots, and really liked the first one. Except I need the second since it contained her dropping the keys. This basically was a give and take. I took away the continuity and confused the viewer a bit with the shot, but gained a shorter set of shots which shouldn't have been as long from the get go.
I hadn't noticed some of those cuts. the 180 rule is video 1 stuff, but I suppose it's easy to make simple mistakes like that. I hadn't noticed that I made that error, I'll have to keep some of the earlier things in mind next time I shoot.
The house part and 180 breakage I knowingly violated, It more had to do with the set up of the apartment, and our limited time. I don't think it was too jarring, but I suppose there were ways I could have added in camera movement if I wanted to change the angle.
Yes you're right as well about things being a bit too dark. I try not to make too many excuses, but at times some things are limited to being a student. I didn't have a crew it was me and my actors, I did everything. We got together and shot when we had time, so certain things were just unseen factors such as the low lighting (had never been there) which with more time, experience or a crew could have been overcome. Either way though, there are ways I can overcome those, and just being conscious of it will hopefully allow me to have more foresight in future projects.
As far as my amateur skills on the gib and certain shots you felt were a little ambitious your'e pretty dead on. It was my first time ever using a slider track (instead of a dolly) and the gib arm. I am eager to finish my concept for this semester so I can really take those tools to the next level. Find shots more suited for them, and make them far smoother.
I'm honestly really glad you took the time to take that apart from me. in my OT for the film I had mentioned how we had a snow storm. Our final was canceled, so no one in the class nor my teacher got to give me any feedback. I just dropped the disc off and that was that.
Knowing the areas in which my films can be improved is the only way to get better, and this was my most ambitious and best film so far. I cant possibly expect to make something twice as good if I don't know what I did wrong.
So thanks.
I'm a director/editor.HenryGale said:Also may I ask, what do you do for a living? You seem very knowledgeable.
Stick to 24p, unless you NEED to go to 30 (and you shouldn't need to). 24p looks nicer.HenryGale said:Well I honestly have never used a camera at this picture quality before, so I wanted the highest resolution and picture quality. I know some people are sticklers for 24FPS but I didn't think it would make the difference.
Dreams-Visions said:I totally wasn't clear.
My little brother is the artist in a music video. He's doing the singing and dancing. He and his managers are trying to fullful an idea he had to implement some Green Screen in order to accomplish particular "futuristic" looks here and there. But none of them have really done anything like that and are still trying to get an idea how it works. They've assembled a team to do the video work and green screen, but editing the video and putting in the graphics stuff is beyond their experience level. I was thinking GAF might have some ideas about how expensive that kind of service is, per hour. They'd want someone professional enough to create the look they seek (a professional look).
sorry for not having been clear.
Depends on the lens.Max@GC said:Playing with the thought to buy a 7D. Shot on the HV20 before and already liked the quality and image stabilization. Does the 7D have built in image stabilization or does it depend on the lenses you´re using?
Raxel said:RE: CG backgrounds. Look into virtual sets/backgrounds for AE, they're like $100.
Oh wow. Will look into all of that today. Thank you so much for your insight.Raxel said:I've done green screen (and white screen) work in AE. It can be done yourself. You'll need 4-5 lights (2 for background, 2-3 for subject) and keep the subject some distance away from the screen to avoid any shadows.
Get a 30 day trial of AE, get used to using keylight (there's a great tutorial on video copilot) and bang it out.
RE: CG backgrounds. Look into virtual sets/backgrounds for AE, they're like $100.
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msdstc said:Just got a new computer and everything setup to start doing some independent stuff with some friends. Hard to find people who are actually willing to participate. Anyways a few questions
1. I know I've asked this before, but what are YOUR methods for getting proper slow motion and what kind of advice can you give me? I'm looking for fluid, and natural slow motion.
2. What are some cheap alternatives for steadicams? Anybody tried out the DIY kind?
3. Finally what does everyone here use for caputring sound?
Naked Snake said:Just throwing this out here, music video made by a friend of a friend of my friend (lol): http://www.vimeo.com/10679243
I loved it on many levels. Impressive for a one-man job shot with Canon 7D.
They are a couple in real life.
Futureman said:Yo GAF, this is my most accomplished, quality project yet. Made an "exaggerated" documentary about my uber-Steelers fan friend the Chief.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyWQpbEgOKw
check it!