OneEightZero
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Holy shit. Is that fucking real? Day one if so. :lolDrForester said:All will be answered when this is released later this year.
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The General Star Trek Thread of Earl Grey Tea, Baseball, and KHHHAAAANNNN
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XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
JJ's ST film also explicitly called out the Ent being the fleet flagship. No admiral on board of course.maharg said:
JoshuaJSlone
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If on-screen time mirrored off-screen time pretty closely, it wasn't quite THAT long. Generations came out late 1994, First Contact late 1996. In First Contact it's mentioned they've been on the E for about a year, so that would put about 1 year between D's destruction and the launch of the E.Teh Hamburglar said:
If the need arose they'd just promote a lieutenant to admiral.XiaNaphryz said:
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Well, they did promote Pike to Admiral. Meaning we'll see Admiral Kirk, Captains Spock and Sulu, and Commander Chekov once again after 2 movies or so.JoshuaJSlone said:
Escape Goat
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XiaNaphryz said:
You can receive a field promotion that is temporary. But for the movies sake we moved things along so people wouldnt be confused as to why Kirk wasnt Captain Kirk, etc.
DrForester
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OneEightZero said:
No date yes but yes it's being made.
Was watching DS9 tonight, 3rd season episode "Explorers." Came across "Hammock time!" Love the extemporaneous humor. :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCyowQs8dEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCyowQs8dEA
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Current rumor for release is September. You can pre-order the book at Amazon.DrForester said:
Fox Mulder
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I'm in Season 3 of TNG, and it's getting better, but when do they get rid of these shitty two seat hatchback shuttles?
I mean, I saw a bigger one a few episodes back, but I guess Q stole it.
I mean, I saw a bigger one a few episodes back, but I guess Q stole it.
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
bkfount said:
They stop using the shuttle pods around season 4.
Nolimit_SS
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Seen Enterprise a while ago, watching TNG at the moment, finishing 2nd season. Will watch DS9 and then Voyager but I want to know about movies, or rather an order in which I should watch them and when.
The Librarian
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Whatever you do, for the sake everything that is right in the world, DO NOT watch Star Trek V.Nolimit_SS said:
DrForester
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Nolimit_SS said:
You can watch the TOS movies any time (though if you can,t rack down a copy of the episode "Space Seed" for some nice background info on Star Trek 2, but the movie is plenty enjoyable without it.
TNG Watch the first TNG movie (Generations) after the series. Wait till you get to season 4 (or any time after) of DS9 then watch the next two TNG movies (First Contact and Insurrection). Wait till you finish Voyager to watch the last TNG movie.
You COULD watch the TNG movies immediately after TNG but you'd get spoiled on a few things in Voyager and DS9. They aren't part of the plot to the movies, just fan Easter eggs but noticeable spoilers non the less.
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maharg said:
Defiant and Worf on DS9
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JoeMartin said:
Kazon were stupid, no argument there. I think they missed some really good roads to travel with the half Maquis crew. That was a great idea, just poorly executed They threw in an episode now and then but pretty much they were totally accepted and integraded jsut a few episodes into it. Seska and Ensign Sutter were also some great characters they totally wasted.
Nolimit_SS
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I could, but since I'm watching almost whole franchise I'd like to keep it in proper time order. I will however watch them all anyhow.benjipwns said:
Haha, why not?Dax01 said:
DrForester said:
Will do, thanks!
I'm going to watch whole voyager anyway so npmaharg said:
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Nolimit_SS said:
It really is an absolutely terrible movie, but it really should be experienced. Watch it.
Row, Row, Row Your Boat...
The Librarian
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I often image what Hell would be like, and being forced to watch Star Trek V over and over again comes as close as any other description.DrForester said:
Honestly the only good part of the movie is that
campfire scene
DrForester
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maharg said:
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Nolimit_SS
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Well good thing I can multitask and read forums while watching, or skip boring parts hehmaharg said:
Also while googleing for timeline on some forums people were saying Voyager was the best
DrForester said:
Looking forward to it! lol, sounds awesome
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benjipwns said:
I can understand some Trekkies hating on DS9 though. It's my favorite show, but for people who grew up on the original and then TNG, DS9 totally went the other way from Roddenberry's vision.
Those hilarious mashup videos has inspired me to return to the roots and watch TNG again. Been watching episodes randomly on Youtube, I'm surprised that I forgot how much I have actually watched a good majority of it. Back in college, I used to watch a lot of the reruns on UPN. It's still fun to watch.
Never watched Star Trek before , but I decided to give it a shot recently. I'm on the third season of TNG and I'm finally starting to love it. The last episode I saw was "Yesterday's Enterprise" which somehow became one of my favorites so far.
I want to ask, is there any plot connection or cameos between the series? Something like Data being on DS9 or something? I want to watch this in order but I don't want to miss a cameo or an event because it was in another series. So, should I stick with TNG till the end or should I watch DS9 or whatever alongside with it?
I want to ask, is there any plot connection or cameos between the series? Something like Data being on DS9 or something? I want to watch this in order but I don't want to miss a cameo or an event because it was in another series. So, should I stick with TNG till the end or should I watch DS9 or whatever alongside with it?
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050612112752/memoryalpha/en/images/f/f5/BashirData.jpg
The Enterprise is featured in the first episode of DS9, and then halfway through the season, the Enterprise visits DS9 a second time, so the station is featured in a season six episode of TNG. Neither one has any particular continuity issues that reflect on the other show. When you hit season six, you can either start watching DS9 in parallel, or finish watching season six and seven to end TNG before moving on to DS9.
The Enterprise is featured in the first episode of DS9, and then halfway through the season, the Enterprise visits DS9 a second time, so the station is featured in a season six episode of TNG. Neither one has any particular continuity issues that reflect on the other show. When you hit season six, you can either start watching DS9 in parallel, or finish watching season six and seven to end TNG before moving on to DS9.
Escape Goat
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ruby_onix said:
There is the episode with
Thomas Riker and Kira on the Defiant
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Dizzy-4U said:
There were a few small cameo's (more the occasional recurring character from TNG than a major cast member) but nothing all that big, well except one big one on DS9, but if you don't know about that already, I'll let it surprise you.
Mostly, TNG just included a few episodes in the last two seasons that helped set up DS9 (Few episodes focusing on The Bajorans and Cardasians, who's races play heavily in DS9). They even introduced a new character who was intended to move on and become a major cast member on DS9 but the actress decided not to do it.
Escape Goat
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They did end up getting her...in the books. Take that, Michelle Forbes!
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Anasui Kishibe
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benjipwns said:
these people clearly can't understand what a jolly good show really is
benjipwns said:
I have love for Voyager if only because of the Doctor. The show may have been lackluster on the whole but I still believe he is one of the better characters in Trek history.
And I'm enjoying DS9 just fine - I've just started into season 4. Garak is probably the best played character on the show. Actually a lot of the Cardassians tend to be - they do a good job with Dukat as well. I've found the whole Dominion thing pretty boring so far, the Jem'hadar espeically. I'm assuming it'll pick up, but really it's just been GRRRR WERE WARRIORS WE LIKE TO KILL, and oh look another shapeshifter impersonating someone important to try and disrupt the balance of power, I didn't call that 5 minutes into the episode.
The Jem'Hadar are entirely disposable cannon fodder and were only put there as an excuse to get Sisko/Worf in the Captain's seat of a warship. And they're still twice as good as any Voyager villians. The Founders are an Odo yawnfest. Odo was a much better character before they came along. The Vorta are the interesting ones of the group.
The Ferengi and the Cardassians really came into their own in DS9.
The Ferengi and the Cardassians really came into their own in DS9.
British Monsoon
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ruby_onix said:
I concur - in the first series or so Odo is a mean-spirited grump whose only passion is enforcing his own brand of justice, but with each progression of his character they make him less intimidating, cold & isolated until he's just some sickeningly lovey dovey, whiney, homesick annoyance.
benjipwns
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The Doctor was awesome (and I certainly put him in my top five, if not higher, Garak is at the top, but The Doctor has to be involved), but Voyager DOES have some good standalone episodes. (The Doctor focused ones for example!) Even some ones I'd call really good or great. And if intoxicated I might even consider a few to be pretty brilliant.
But, the problem with Voyager, as I and so many others have said probably in just this thread, is that none of it mattered. Every episode reset 99% of everything, including damage to the ship, character development, relationships, etc. The second season is basically the only time the show has any kind of arcs and even that's ruined by how lame the Kazon are. The Maquis problems? Gone by the end of the first season after accounting for nothing. The Equinox crew? Meh, who? Even with the lousy Borg children, they tried to bail out of them as fast as possible. I don't even remember what happened to them and have to look it up, and I've seen every episode about four times.
The show should have been more like Year of Hell than what it was. I mean in the insane Hirogen Holodeck two-parter they literally blow a fucking hole in the middle of the ship and the next week nobody even handwaves it away, it's like it never happened. Hell, Harry Kim and Noami Wildman come from another universe or whatever and nobody gives a shit even in that episode.
It had a brilliant premise and they don't do shit with it. We never think the ship is actually struggling to survive 70 years away from the Alpha Quadrant because nobody really dies, everything is fixed by the next week (or the end of the episode) and almost everyone acts just like they did six months into getting lost. They did DS9 on a station so they couldn't warp away from their problems every week and it wound up working fantastically. When you consider that the shows were mostly running concurrently, it hurts Voyager. Hell, Enterprise did Voyager better than Voyager did considering how they were similarly "in the unknown" (even if we already knew a lot of the races) especially during the Xindi arc.
Despite all this, I've started watching the reruns on Spike TV again. I LIKE much of Voyager, it's just so far away from what it could be and that's what makes me harsh with it.
It's kinda like the recent Star Trek movie. I think it's pretty crappy, the plot is mindbogglingly stupid, it did things it didn't need to do at all that make it even worse, and I still consider it a generic sci-fi film with a "Star Trek mod." But I've seen it five times and I'm sad I don't get a sequel until 2012 at best because I have that silly hope that with the junk out of the way something great can be done with it.
Clearly something is wrong with me. I need The Doctor to evaluate me.
But, the problem with Voyager, as I and so many others have said probably in just this thread, is that none of it mattered. Every episode reset 99% of everything, including damage to the ship, character development, relationships, etc. The second season is basically the only time the show has any kind of arcs and even that's ruined by how lame the Kazon are. The Maquis problems? Gone by the end of the first season after accounting for nothing. The Equinox crew? Meh, who? Even with the lousy Borg children, they tried to bail out of them as fast as possible. I don't even remember what happened to them and have to look it up, and I've seen every episode about four times.
The show should have been more like Year of Hell than what it was. I mean in the insane Hirogen Holodeck two-parter they literally blow a fucking hole in the middle of the ship and the next week nobody even handwaves it away, it's like it never happened. Hell, Harry Kim and Noami Wildman come from another universe or whatever and nobody gives a shit even in that episode.
It had a brilliant premise and they don't do shit with it. We never think the ship is actually struggling to survive 70 years away from the Alpha Quadrant because nobody really dies, everything is fixed by the next week (or the end of the episode) and almost everyone acts just like they did six months into getting lost. They did DS9 on a station so they couldn't warp away from their problems every week and it wound up working fantastically. When you consider that the shows were mostly running concurrently, it hurts Voyager. Hell, Enterprise did Voyager better than Voyager did considering how they were similarly "in the unknown" (even if we already knew a lot of the races) especially during the Xindi arc.
Despite all this, I've started watching the reruns on Spike TV again. I LIKE much of Voyager, it's just so far away from what it could be and that's what makes me harsh with it.
It's kinda like the recent Star Trek movie. I think it's pretty crappy, the plot is mindbogglingly stupid, it did things it didn't need to do at all that make it even worse, and I still consider it a generic sci-fi film with a "Star Trek mod." But I've seen it five times and I'm sad I don't get a sequel until 2012 at best because I have that silly hope that with the junk out of the way something great can be done with it.
Clearly something is wrong with me. I need The Doctor to evaluate me.
Did I mention I've read about 75% of the Star Trek comics and novels despite how absolutely shitty some (most?) of them are? (And continue to read ones I haven't as time goes by.) That probably explains more than anything I wrote above. Some of them are amazing though, A Stitch in Time and I, Q need to be made canon for one thing. Double Helix too, among others.