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The General Star Trek Thread of Earl Grey Tea, Baseball, and KHHHAAAANNNN
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SpoonyBard
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Henchmen21 said:
At least Abrahms didn't try to remake Wrath of Khan once again...
The Librarian
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Eh. Despite Nemesis having an awesome space battle (something Star Trek 2009 lacked), overall, I thought Star Trek 2009 was the better movie. But, really, that's not saying much.Henchmen21 said:
OneEightZero
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I rewatched the newest Trek since it popped up on Netflix the other day. I had forgotten how gripping those first ten minutes were.
JoshuaJSlone
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I thought the crazy villain who blamed one of the main characters for the loss of his people/family, let it fester for a few decades, then decided to try and take it out on the galaxy at large (starting with things important to main character) seemed a bit familiar.SpoonyBard said:
EDIT: Also mind altering head slugs. And using a body of gas for aid in a surprise attack.
SpoonyBard
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JoshuaJSlone said:
Well... shit, you're right
It felt somehow different though, there was some originality...DrForester
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SpoonyBard said:
I wouldn't say that with all the hints being droped that Khan will be in the sequel. Hope Abrahms is just trolling fans.
KernelPanic
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Nemesis was pretty much a remake of Wrath of Khan right down to the
. What a horrible film/villain ... no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
All of the TNG films, with the exception of First Contact felt like a 2 hour episode than a feature film to me.
Ugh please no, Ricardo Montalban pretty much Khan a legit villain, don't see anyone else pulling that off.
a main character but may/may not be resurrected in the future
All of the TNG films, with the exception of First Contact felt like a 2 hour episode than a feature film to me.
DrForester said:
Ugh please no, Ricardo Montalban pretty much Khan a legit villain, don't see anyone else pulling that off.
DrForester
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time for Star Trek to die off for another half decade...
Escape Goat
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DrForester said:time for Star Trek to die off for another half decade...
oh dear.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
True enough. Always a small nebula or habitable planet within crashing distance when the need arises.JoeMartin said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I mentioned this to DrForester earlier, but I watched "Caretaker" last night for the first time since about 2002. So I've maybe seen it 4 or 5 times including the original airing.
It sucked. Really bad. Incredibly shitty matte work and effects, weak acting (particularly from the three Maquis characters), slow to get going, and the sets don't look half as good as they remember them.
I only mention this because this wasn't what I was expecting. I don't think Voyager was a great show, but I remember highly enjoying the pilot at the time. By the same token, I've rewatched bother "Emissary" and "Encounter at Farpoint" within the last 12 months, and they both hold up much better despite also suffering from typical Trek S1 jitters.
So is it just me, or is "Caretaker" pretty poorly made?
It sucked. Really bad. Incredibly shitty matte work and effects, weak acting (particularly from the three Maquis characters), slow to get going, and the sets don't look half as good as they remember them.
I only mention this because this wasn't what I was expecting. I don't think Voyager was a great show, but I remember highly enjoying the pilot at the time. By the same token, I've rewatched bother "Emissary" and "Encounter at Farpoint" within the last 12 months, and they both hold up much better despite also suffering from typical Trek S1 jitters.
So is it just me, or is "Caretaker" pretty poorly made?
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Stumpokapow said:
No I'll agree with this. I liked Voyager overall but those first two seasons were rough.
People bitch about them relying on the Borg but I'll take "Scorpion" as the spiritual second pilot of the show.
That said, I feel the same way about "Encounter at Farpoint" vs. "Best of Both Worlds"...
I'm currently watching the final season of TNG for the first time. I don't want it to end!!!
There was one episode so far that left me very angry. The one where the show is focused on the cadetes.
. Can't explain why i feel this way.
Also, the Masks episode, WTF was that?
There was one episode so far that left me very angry. The one where the show is focused on the cadetes.
I don't know why, but the death of Sito pissed me off. I didn't like her, but oh man, arrrgghhh!
Also, the Masks episode, WTF was that?
Ok I LOVED TNG but I never watched DS9. I don't have time to watch the whole series right now - but if I had to watch - let's say 10-25 episodes in order to get the gist of the whole series (i.e absolute best episodes that also carry along the overarching storyline the most) what should I watch?
I don't think you can really do DS9 up like that. You could watch the earlier episodes, which are mostly trashy (and imo incredibly boring) one-offs, or you could watch the episodes once the arc really kicked in, but you'd probably be lost if you only watched 10-25 of them.
JoshuaJSlone
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Seriously. Just the last chunk of highly serial episodes would take up ~10.maharg said:
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
You think didn't do just that with Nero, and that he won't bring up Kahn at some point? :lolSpoonyBard said:
Escape Goat
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DrForester
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Coldsnap said:
You mean Commander Riker? No it's not a wig (or it's a really really good one that no one ever picked up on)
Learn2read
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Great read from the (now deceased) screenwriter of Insurrection about it's creation. The book was banned by Paramount but is online and shows how badly they fucked it up.
http://movies.trekcore.com/insurrection/FadeIn.doc
Choice quote from Patrick Stewart's first reaction:
http://movies.trekcore.com/insurrection/FadeIn.doc
Choice quote from Patrick Stewart's first reaction:
Escape Goat
Member
they took it down
Learn2read
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Escape Goat
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:lol
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
Perhaps it's too much to ask of him to denounce his own work, but I feel that there isn't much room for equivocating at the end. He tried to make something banal into something profound. Aranofsky did the fountain of youth angle years later, and it was much, much better.
And yet I feel that the story could have worked if he had included the Dominion War angle from the beginning. The setup for the film is awful, and it is something from which it never quite recovers. Introducing a "war-weary Picard", however, might have given audiences a reason to care. Bu they took a wrong position from the start, trying to be too whimsical like Star Trek 4, even though the final product did not resemble it in any way whatsoever.
And yet I feel that the story could have worked if he had included the Dominion War angle from the beginning. The setup for the film is awful, and it is something from which it never quite recovers. Introducing a "war-weary Picard", however, might have given audiences a reason to care. Bu they took a wrong position from the start, trying to be too whimsical like Star Trek 4, even though the final product did not resemble it in any way whatsoever.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Here's a Trek comic I did for the old college newspaper:
Also used to work for the local UPN affiliate, so I did a couple of spots for Voyager. On two of them I used some music from the soundtrack of Star Trek: Armada. Find 'em here:
http://www.danalaratta.com/trek.html
I used to post and argue on trekweb.com all the time under the name Imbarkus. Sad how such vibrant online trek-focused communities have all faded away.
Also used to work for the local UPN affiliate, so I did a couple of spots for Voyager. On two of them I used some music from the soundtrack of Star Trek: Armada. Find 'em here:
http://www.danalaratta.com/trek.html
I used to post and argue on trekweb.com all the time under the name Imbarkus. Sad how such vibrant online trek-focused communities have all faded away.
Gary Whitta
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I read the Piller book and recommend it; it's a well-written, comprehensive, very frank look inside the process of writing and developing a studio franchise movie. And proof that even bad movies are made with the very best of intentions.
DrForester
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Gary Whitta said:
I wonder if anyone would say the same for "Threshold"....
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
From the gaming side:
Guy creates a scale 1:1 model of the Enterprise in Minecraft - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2-d5a3r94&fmt=18
Guy creates a scale 1:1 model of the Enterprise in Minecraft - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2-d5a3r94&fmt=18
SpoonyBard
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Gary Whitta said:
I read that too, and now finally managed to rewatch Insurrection. Ok, now I understand some of the weirder things that happen in that movie, but that doesn't make the movie any better, unfortunately. Insurrection would be a pretty good two-parter episode, if some of the action scenes were cut shorter and there was more dialogue and not just silly one-liners. It's still better than Nemesis and Final Frontier, but that's not much.
Escape Goat
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I saw the episode where Kes gives Neelix one of her lungs. Chalk that to another plot point thats never, ever brought up again.
SpoonyBard
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Willy105 said:
Kidney
Maybe Voyager ran out of lung pills...Escape Goat
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Willy105 said:
Thats not my point. Neelix is put into a lot of situations where one lung would fuck him up but nothings ever said about it.
DrForester
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Watching Star Trek VI on Blu-Ray
Can not unsee TNG sets now that someone told me about them
Engineering = Engineering
Dining Hall = Conference Room
Federation President Office = Ten Forward
Can not unsee TNG sets now that someone told me about them
Engineering = Engineering
Dining Hall = Conference Room
Federation President Office = Ten Forward
The Librarian
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Whaa--? They used sets from TNG in the movie?DrForester said:
Gonna have to rewatch the movie sometime soon now.:lol